ATL documentation
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From http://blogs.msdn.com/johnkenn/archive/2007/10/02/time-to-move-on.aspx[^] "Next week will be my last at Microsoft. It's just shy of eight years ago, that I came to the US from Northern Ireland, to work as a Programmer/Writer for the Visual C++ team. I worked on the ATL and MFC documentation, and to be honest – and this is something that is probably apparent if you read the ATL documentation – I never really completely understood it. Class factories? COM? Blegh! No thanks." :wtf:
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From http://blogs.msdn.com/johnkenn/archive/2007/10/02/time-to-move-on.aspx[^] "Next week will be my last at Microsoft. It's just shy of eight years ago, that I came to the US from Northern Ireland, to work as a Programmer/Writer for the Visual C++ team. I worked on the ATL and MFC documentation, and to be honest – and this is something that is probably apparent if you read the ATL documentation – I never really completely understood it. Class factories? COM? Blegh! No thanks." :wtf:
It sounds like he isn't leaving MS on good terms! :laugh:
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From http://blogs.msdn.com/johnkenn/archive/2007/10/02/time-to-move-on.aspx[^] "Next week will be my last at Microsoft. It's just shy of eight years ago, that I came to the US from Northern Ireland, to work as a Programmer/Writer for the Visual C++ team. I worked on the ATL and MFC documentation, and to be honest – and this is something that is probably apparent if you read the ATL documentation – I never really completely understood it. Class factories? COM? Blegh! No thanks." :wtf:
Wow, that's encouraging to hear! Long live ATL! Long live COM!
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Wow, that's encouraging to hear! Long live ATL! Long live COM!
¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog
Jim Crafton wrote:
Long live ATL! Long live COM!
X| COM needs to be burned in a tire fire
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Jim Crafton wrote:
Long live ATL! Long live COM!
X| COM needs to be burned in a tire fire
No argument here - I was just being sarcastic :) COM could have been really cool. Instead it's a mess :(
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Jim Crafton wrote:
Long live ATL! Long live COM!
X| COM needs to be burned in a tire fire
Chris Losinger wrote:
in a tire fire
ugh... must we? If COM is hard enough to live before with why must its death make it impossible to live around also? The soot from burning tires is horrible. I've got a miniature guillotine you could borrow.
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Jim Crafton wrote:
Long live ATL! Long live COM!
X| COM needs to be burned in a tire fire
Chris Losinger wrote:
COM needs to be burned in a tire fire
Well, with it being an integral part of how .NET is implemented, I guess that is the next best thing... :laugh: Peace!
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Chris Losinger wrote:
COM needs to be burned in a tire fire
Well, with it being an integral part of how .NET is implemented, I guess that is the next best thing... :laugh: Peace!
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Chris Losinger wrote:
COM needs to be burned in a tire fire
Well, with it being an integral part of how .NET is implemented, I guess that is the next best thing... :laugh: Peace!
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See DeleteFXPFilesJames R. Twine wrote:
with it being an integral part of how .NET is implemented
..or for that matter it being integral part of many core OS components.
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From http://blogs.msdn.com/johnkenn/archive/2007/10/02/time-to-move-on.aspx[^] "Next week will be my last at Microsoft. It's just shy of eight years ago, that I came to the US from Northern Ireland, to work as a Programmer/Writer for the Visual C++ team. I worked on the ATL and MFC documentation, and to be honest – and this is something that is probably apparent if you read the ATL documentation – I never really completely understood it. Class factories? COM? Blegh! No thanks." :wtf:
:doh: Why am i not more surprised. And yet i wonder why our suppliers can't seem to get their components working properly... :sigh:
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.NET being the tire fire here?
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It sounds like he isn't leaving MS on good terms! :laugh:
:josh: My WPF Blog[^] Without a strive for perfection I would be terribly bored.
I didn't get that impression, especially since he looked for a position with Microsoft in Ireland. It sounded like he's returning to Ireland for personal reasons.
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I didn't get that impression, especially since he looked for a position with Microsoft in Ireland. It sounded like he's returning to Ireland for personal reasons.
Software Zen:
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I didn't get that impression, especially since he looked for a position with Microsoft in Ireland. It sounded like he's returning to Ireland for personal reasons.
Ah, well I guess I should have read the blog post after all. :)
:josh: My WPF Blog[^] Without a strive for perfection I would be terribly bored.
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From http://blogs.msdn.com/johnkenn/archive/2007/10/02/time-to-move-on.aspx[^] "Next week will be my last at Microsoft. It's just shy of eight years ago, that I came to the US from Northern Ireland, to work as a Programmer/Writer for the Visual C++ team. I worked on the ATL and MFC documentation, and to be honest – and this is something that is probably apparent if you read the ATL documentation – I never really completely understood it. Class factories? COM? Blegh! No thanks." :wtf:
Sadly it commonly is the case that the people who developed it cannot write documentation, while the people who document it don't understand it. You get placeholder documentation where the documentation just basically restates the name of the method and what the parameters are. It's rare that you get a fusion of people who can write with those who understand the technology, and that both groups have the time to write about it well. Rector/Sells "ATL Internals" is a very good ATL book. "Inside ATL" isn't a great ATL book but it's still better than the documentation.
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