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    Steve Mayfield
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    Spammers have created a Windows game which shows a woman in a state of undress when people correctly type in text shown in an accompanying image. The scrambled text images come from sites which use them to stop computers automatically signing up for accounts that can be put to illegal use. [^] what will they think of next??? :doh: Steve

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      Spammers have created a Windows game which shows a woman in a state of undress when people correctly type in text shown in an accompanying image. The scrambled text images come from sites which use them to stop computers automatically signing up for accounts that can be put to illegal use. [^] what will they think of next??? :doh: Steve

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      PIEBALDconsult
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      Sweeeet! :-D Why didn't SETI think of that?

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        Spammers have created a Windows game which shows a woman in a state of undress when people correctly type in text shown in an accompanying image. The scrambled text images come from sites which use them to stop computers automatically signing up for accounts that can be put to illegal use. [^] what will they think of next??? :doh: Steve

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        Pawel Krakowiak
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        "The Captcha-busting program can run on Windows 98, ME, NT, 2000, XP, and Server 2003." I hope it runs on my Vista, too...

        Kind regards, Pawel Krakowiak

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          Spammers have created a Windows game which shows a woman in a state of undress when people correctly type in text shown in an accompanying image. The scrambled text images come from sites which use them to stop computers automatically signing up for accounts that can be put to illegal use. [^] what will they think of next??? :doh: Steve

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          shinji1
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          I think Google use scrambled text in a good way! http://www.google.co.jp/[^] But I almost serch the word "google" reflectively. :) HomePage:http://shinji1.hp.infoseek.co.jp/[^]

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            "The Captcha-busting program can run on Windows 98, ME, NT, 2000, XP, and Server 2003." I hope it runs on my Vista, too...

            Kind regards, Pawel Krakowiak

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            Rajesh R Subramanian
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            Looks like you'd want to play it? :-D

            Real men drive manual transmission

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              Spammers have created a Windows game which shows a woman in a state of undress when people correctly type in text shown in an accompanying image. The scrambled text images come from sites which use them to stop computers automatically signing up for accounts that can be put to illegal use. [^] what will they think of next??? :doh: Steve

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              Russell Jones
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              that's a new one. I didn't understand how pr0n spambots were managing to sign up for my phpBB board despite me using various different CATCHPA image sets. It turns out that what they do is instantly display your image as a fake CATCHPA on a free porn sign up page. They may or may not get a response within the timeout of your image and it may or may not be correct but if you are offering free porn you get so many people trying to sign up that eventually you'll get an account. In the end i designed my own CATCHPA using html rather than an image so that you couldn't just copy it over to another site as a bot wouldn't know where CATCHPA finished and page began. Things like using divs with single letter in each and various layout classes so that a garbled section of html formed a question when rendered. I suspect that just by not having an off the shelf CATCHPA 99% of attacks will be blocked as it's not worth the spammers while building a system to break into your 1 off forum. Russ

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                that's a new one. I didn't understand how pr0n spambots were managing to sign up for my phpBB board despite me using various different CATCHPA image sets. It turns out that what they do is instantly display your image as a fake CATCHPA on a free porn sign up page. They may or may not get a response within the timeout of your image and it may or may not be correct but if you are offering free porn you get so many people trying to sign up that eventually you'll get an account. In the end i designed my own CATCHPA using html rather than an image so that you couldn't just copy it over to another site as a bot wouldn't know where CATCHPA finished and page began. Things like using divs with single letter in each and various layout classes so that a garbled section of html formed a question when rendered. I suspect that just by not having an off the shelf CATCHPA 99% of attacks will be blocked as it's not worth the spammers while building a system to break into your 1 off forum. Russ

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                Gary Wheeler
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                Russell Jones wrote:

                In the end i designed my own CATCHPA using html rather than an image

                That sounds clever, and definitely worth an article.


                Software Zen: delete this;

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                  Spammers have created a Windows game which shows a woman in a state of undress when people correctly type in text shown in an accompanying image. The scrambled text images come from sites which use them to stop computers automatically signing up for accounts that can be put to illegal use. [^] what will they think of next??? :doh: Steve

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                  wsoutherland
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                  Time for everyone to switch to Asirra[^]. Guess you could iframe that into a game too. "Here kitty kitty..."

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                    Russell Jones wrote:

                    In the end i designed my own CATCHPA using html rather than an image

                    That sounds clever, and definitely worth an article.


                    Software Zen: delete this;

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                    Russell Jones
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                    It sounds a lot more impressive than it really is. The most difficult thing was working out where to put the code in a page of php. Does CP accept articles on php anyway? The importnat thing with CATCHPA is to get a step ahead of the rest, the simplest test will work if you are the first person to use it. Equally if your site is not pulling monster traffic figures it's unlikely that a human is going to waste their time designing a system to break your CATCHPA. even text such as "which or these is not a primary colour red, green, purple" will work, especially as the usual formula for CATCHPA is an image tag with stuff in it next to a button. Russell

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                      that's a new one. I didn't understand how pr0n spambots were managing to sign up for my phpBB board despite me using various different CATCHPA image sets. It turns out that what they do is instantly display your image as a fake CATCHPA on a free porn sign up page. They may or may not get a response within the timeout of your image and it may or may not be correct but if you are offering free porn you get so many people trying to sign up that eventually you'll get an account. In the end i designed my own CATCHPA using html rather than an image so that you couldn't just copy it over to another site as a bot wouldn't know where CATCHPA finished and page began. Things like using divs with single letter in each and various layout classes so that a garbled section of html formed a question when rendered. I suspect that just by not having an off the shelf CATCHPA 99% of attacks will be blocked as it's not worth the spammers while building a system to break into your 1 off forum. Russ

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                      Paul Watson
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                      Three words; Asian child labour.

                      regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                      Andy Brummer wrote:

                      Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.

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                        Three words; Asian child labour.

                        regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                        Andy Brummer wrote:

                        Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.

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                        Russell Jones
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                        of course any CATCHPA breaking system that actually uses a human is going to out fox even the best CATCHPA algorithm

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                          of course any CATCHPA breaking system that actually uses a human is going to out fox even the best CATCHPA algorithm

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                          Paul Watson
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                          Sure, I'm just saying don't break your back trying to create the perfect CATCHPA system. Spend your time elsewhere and deal with the spam.

                          regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                          Andy Brummer wrote:

                          Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.

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                            It sounds a lot more impressive than it really is. The most difficult thing was working out where to put the code in a page of php. Does CP accept articles on php anyway? The importnat thing with CATCHPA is to get a step ahead of the rest, the simplest test will work if you are the first person to use it. Equally if your site is not pulling monster traffic figures it's unlikely that a human is going to waste their time designing a system to break your CATCHPA. even text such as "which or these is not a primary colour red, green, purple" will work, especially as the usual formula for CATCHPA is an image tag with stuff in it next to a button. Russell

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                            Russell Jones wrote:

                            which or these is not a primary colour red, green, purple

                            But, in your example there are two right answers. More importantly, people seemed to be so dumbed down these days, they might not know what is meant by a primary color. Ask-around - you'll be sadly surprised.

                            "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

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                              that's a new one. I didn't understand how pr0n spambots were managing to sign up for my phpBB board despite me using various different CATCHPA image sets. It turns out that what they do is instantly display your image as a fake CATCHPA on a free porn sign up page. They may or may not get a response within the timeout of your image and it may or may not be correct but if you are offering free porn you get so many people trying to sign up that eventually you'll get an account. In the end i designed my own CATCHPA using html rather than an image so that you couldn't just copy it over to another site as a bot wouldn't know where CATCHPA finished and page began. Things like using divs with single letter in each and various layout classes so that a garbled section of html formed a question when rendered. I suspect that just by not having an off the shelf CATCHPA 99% of attacks will be blocked as it's not worth the spammers while building a system to break into your 1 off forum. Russ

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                              An even easier way is to use an aspx/php/(insert engine here) page to feed the image and store the relative index in a session variable. That way, the spammers don't know which image was sent through and have no frame of reference for the response, but the session variable keeps that frame of reference for your site. I feed images and audio up all the time using an aspx page that sets the response to the appropriate stream type for the content it is streaming from the database.

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                                It sounds a lot more impressive than it really is. The most difficult thing was working out where to put the code in a page of php. Does CP accept articles on php anyway? The importnat thing with CATCHPA is to get a step ahead of the rest, the simplest test will work if you are the first person to use it. Equally if your site is not pulling monster traffic figures it's unlikely that a human is going to waste their time designing a system to break your CATCHPA. even text such as "which or these is not a primary colour red, green, purple" will work, especially as the usual formula for CATCHPA is an image tag with stuff in it next to a button. Russell

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                                Draugnar
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                                Ummm.... Only Red is the primary color. BOTH Green and Purple are secondaries in the real world. It may be an RGB computer world, but Red, Blue, and Yellow are the primaries, with Green, Purple, and Orange being the secondaries. In other words, your question is invalid.

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                                  An even easier way is to use an aspx/php/(insert engine here) page to feed the image and store the relative index in a session variable. That way, the spammers don't know which image was sent through and have no frame of reference for the response, but the session variable keeps that frame of reference for your site. I feed images and audio up all the time using an aspx page that sets the response to the appropriate stream type for the content it is streaming from the database.

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                                  DQNOK
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                                  That DOES sound worth an article.

                                  David --------- Empirical studies indicate that 20% of the people drink 80% of the beer. With C++ developers, the rule is that 80% of the developers understand at most 20% of the language. It is not the same 20% for different people, so don't count on them to understand each other's code. http://yosefk.com/c++fqa/picture.html#fqa-6.6 ---------

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                                    Ummm.... Only Red is the primary color. BOTH Green and Purple are secondaries in the real world. It may be an RGB computer world, but Red, Blue, and Yellow are the primaries, with Green, Purple, and Orange being the secondaries. In other words, your question is invalid.

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                                    Dan Neely
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                                    Draugnar wrote:

                                    Ummm.... Only Red is the primary color.

                                    [Pedantic] Red, Green, and Blue are the primary colors. Red, Blue, and Yellow are *a* set of primary pigments (better quality printers use 4 or more pigments for superior color balance). The difference is that the former are emmissive and add up to white, the latter absorptive and add up to black. Your average art teacher wouldn't know the difference unless clubbed upside the head (institutional memory trumps truth), and since most students are required to take Art in school while Physics is an elective... [/Pedantic]

                                    -- If you view money as inherently evil, I view it as my duty to assist in making you more virtuous.

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                                      Draugnar wrote:

                                      Ummm.... Only Red is the primary color.

                                      [Pedantic] Red, Green, and Blue are the primary colors. Red, Blue, and Yellow are *a* set of primary pigments (better quality printers use 4 or more pigments for superior color balance). The difference is that the former are emmissive and add up to white, the latter absorptive and add up to black. Your average art teacher wouldn't know the difference unless clubbed upside the head (institutional memory trumps truth), and since most students are required to take Art in school while Physics is an elective... [/Pedantic]

                                      -- If you view money as inherently evil, I view it as my duty to assist in making you more virtuous.

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                                      Draugnar
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                                      Well, I guess that shows how much I know. I always thought it was Red, Yellow, Blue as colors and the computer world just managed to make RGB for video emissions and CMY for pigments, but I guess I stand corrected. Thank you for the education. And I do mean it, I appreciate when I learn something new.

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                                        That DOES sound worth an article.

                                        David --------- Empirical studies indicate that 20% of the people drink 80% of the beer. With C++ developers, the rule is that 80% of the developers understand at most 20% of the language. It is not the same 20% for different people, so don't count on them to understand each other's code. http://yosefk.com/c++fqa/picture.html#fqa-6.6 ---------

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                                        Draugnar
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                                        When time permits, I'll try to throw something together. It'll be in ASPX (C# and VB), though, not PHP as my Perl/PHP knowledge is very limited. Java and LotusScript are the only non-MS languages I work in these days.

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                                          Draugnar wrote:

                                          Ummm.... Only Red is the primary color.

                                          [Pedantic] Red, Green, and Blue are the primary colors. Red, Blue, and Yellow are *a* set of primary pigments (better quality printers use 4 or more pigments for superior color balance). The difference is that the former are emmissive and add up to white, the latter absorptive and add up to black. Your average art teacher wouldn't know the difference unless clubbed upside the head (institutional memory trumps truth), and since most students are required to take Art in school while Physics is an elective... [/Pedantic]

                                          -- If you view money as inherently evil, I view it as my duty to assist in making you more virtuous.

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                                          Blekk
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                                          No not pedantic, just correct. Red, Blue and Yellow are the ONLY primary colours, green, purple and orange being secondary as stated.

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