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  • C Christopher Duncan

    That's the sort of thing I can easily cover in a book. Do you think if techniques for understanding these things were outlined that techies would be motivated to try them, or would it be too traumatic for them to interact with others?

    Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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    Big Daddy Farang
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    Christopher Duncan wrote:

    techniques for understanding these things were outlined that techies would be motivated to try them

    It seems to me that motivation comes from within. If a person is motivated, and now armed with these techniques from your book, yes the person will try them. An unmotivated person who reads the same book, not so much. Of course there are often times outside factors driving one's motivation. But reading a book on career development, no matter how good it is, just doesn't seem like one to me. So to actually answer your question, probably. ;) Those who find it "too traumatic," well there's likely no helping them. BDF

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    • C Christopher Duncan

      That certainly sounds like a modest and achievable goal. What's standing in the way of you getting it?

      Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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      Tom Welch
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      I have requested one, but the main thing in the way is corporate politics. Senior and middle management are given offices. Everyone else goes without. Other than that, they would have to build more office space. And that's doable. They are already building more offices for new management positions.

      A severed foot is the ultimate stocking stuffer. - Mitch Hedberg

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      • C Christopher Duncan

        Other than the lazy part, you'd be surprised by how little all the rest has to do with your ability to make more money.

        Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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        Shog9 0
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        That lazy part's a real doozy though. Why else would i spend time thinking up all the other excuses instead of doing something useful? :->

        every night, i kneel at the foot of my bed and thank the Great Overseeing Politicians for protecting my freedoms by reducing their number, as if they were deer in a state park. -- Chris Losinger, Online Poker Players?

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        • C Chris Meech

          Shucks, and here I am all out of flux capacitors to give you. :)

          Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] Donate to help Conquer Cancer[^]

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          How to tell your a Nerd 101 Lesson 1: talk about lending flux capacitors to other people :-D

          "There are three sides to every story. Yours, mine and the truth" ~ unknown

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          • D Dan Neely

            TDDragon wrote:

            Car: no problem just a company polacy, only after working there for at least 1.5 years you get a car

            You're talking about a company car then, not a personally owned vehicle? That wasn't apparent in your original post.

            -- If you view money as inherently evil, I view it as my duty to assist in making you more virtuous.

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            Tom Deketelaere
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            yeah sorry about that I was talking about company car I just bought a second hand car for the first 1.5 years now so...

            If my help was helpfull let me know, if not let me know why. The only way we learn is by making mistakes.

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            • C Christopher Duncan

              TDDragon wrote:

              More money: only started working 7 months ago so it's normall that that's not going to happen soon.

              That's an invalid assumption, but as long as you believe it, it will be true. My careers in several industries over the years have verified that it's all about how you present yourself. When I started programming in '89, I had no college and only 5 months of self training on the living room computer at my house. I took my first job for $16k (little more than minimum wage). 10 months later, I started changing jobs once a year (or less), increasing a minimum of $10k per job. If I believed I had to slug it out with one company and accept what most people accept, 5 years later I would have only received a modest increase. Promotion and car work the same way. The only difference between me and you is that when I started programming, it was already my third career. That means I had enough road behind me to realize I could get whatever I could sell. No need to settle for less, man. Just show people why you're worth it. :)

              Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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              Tom Deketelaere
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              Good advice thank you But I promised myself to at least work for 2 years at this company since I had 3 other jobs before this one each for about 2 months or so (but I got bored of them or they weren't what I expected)so... But I have been keeping track off the jobopenings at other companies just to see what's out there. anyway I'll keep you'r advice in mind thank you

              If my help was helpfull let me know, if not let me know why. The only way we learn is by making mistakes.

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              • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                I want the skills necessary to achieve the direct contracts, the pinnacle of success as I see it, in the consulting world.


                Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
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                Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                I want the skills necessary to achieve the direct contracts

                SBIR contracts. Three times a year, multi-skills, everything from translating software languages to building advanced neutron collectors from lego sets (okay, the latter is a slight exaggeration). :)

                _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                • C Christopher Duncan

                  Hey, folks. I'm doing more research for my next book, and as many of you know I tend to focus on the career aspects of the biz rather than techie stuff. I figure we have a pretty good variety of people here, which gives you a strong collective voice. What non-techie things do you want from your job / career (promotion, more money, work / life balance, more decision making authority, flexibility, etc.), and what are the problems that keep you from getting them?

                  Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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                  Christopher Duncan wrote:

                  What non-techie things do you want from your job / career (promotion, more money, work / life balance, more decision making authority, flexibility, etc.), and what are the problems that keep you from getting them?

                  startup steps. I know it has been done, but it seems everyone wants to put their fingers in the pot. You either pay someone to do it for you, or you start making calls, find their requirements, and find out who has put in an extra form you have to get approved before you get started. :) I wish there was a better way.... Calgon take me away!!!.... ;P

                  _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                    Christopher Duncan wrote:

                    What non-techie things do you want from your job / career (promotion, more money, work / life balance, more decision making authority, flexibility, etc.), and what are the problems that keep you from getting them?

                    startup steps. I know it has been done, but it seems everyone wants to put their fingers in the pot. You either pay someone to do it for you, or you start making calls, find their requirements, and find out who has put in an extra form you have to get approved before you get started. :) I wish there was a better way.... Calgon take me away!!!.... ;P

                    _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                    Of course, you have the best of both worlds. The joys of entrepreneurship, and the delight of corporate and governmental bureucracy. Oh, joy. Paying someone else has never looked so good. :)

                    Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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                    • T Tom Deketelaere

                      Good advice thank you But I promised myself to at least work for 2 years at this company since I had 3 other jobs before this one each for about 2 months or so (but I got bored of them or they weren't what I expected)so... But I have been keeping track off the jobopenings at other companies just to see what's out there. anyway I'll keep you'r advice in mind thank you

                      If my help was helpfull let me know, if not let me know why. The only way we learn is by making mistakes.

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                      Christopher Duncan
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                      Happy to help, man, and best of luck! :)

                      Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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                        That lazy part's a real doozy though. Why else would i spend time thinking up all the other excuses instead of doing something useful? :->

                        every night, i kneel at the foot of my bed and thank the Great Overseeing Politicians for protecting my freedoms by reducing their number, as if they were deer in a state park. -- Chris Losinger, Online Poker Players?

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                        Christopher Duncan
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                        :-D

                        Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes www.PracticalUSA.com

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                        • E El Corazon

                          Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                          I want the skills necessary to achieve the direct contracts

                          SBIR contracts. Three times a year, multi-skills, everything from translating software languages to building advanced neutron collectors from lego sets (okay, the latter is a slight exaggeration). :)

                          _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                          Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                          Have any experience and willing to mentor?


                          Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
                          Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway

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                          • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                            Have any experience and willing to mentor?


                            Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
                            Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway

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                            El Corazon
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                            Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                            Have any experience and willing to mentor?

                            well, what I meant was that you can basically match your own skills against the contracts at the SBIR list. http://www.dodsbir.net/[^] You look at the list of available topics, choose one if it matches your skill set, and make a bid. If you loose, you are out one 20 page report and a bit of evening time. If you win, 100k for 9 months of work is nothing to sneeze at, but the possibility of Phase II is even nicer. :) You never know!

                            _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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