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  • P Paul Watson

    Yes but your original point of "not so smug now" is bollocks. No offense :)

    regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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    Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.

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    originSH
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    Your saying that Apple have never said "haha PC's are crap because they have security problems and we don't!"? obviously not in those exact words ... but they have been pushing that sentiment for a long time ... and now they *do* have security problems. If they hadn't been smug all along then people wouldn't be sniggering in their faces ... but heh .. they were :P

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      Your saying that Apple have never said "haha PC's are crap because they have security problems and we don't!"? obviously not in those exact words ... but they have been pushing that sentiment for a long time ... and now they *do* have security problems. If they hadn't been smug all along then people wouldn't be sniggering in their faces ... but heh .. they were :P

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      I'm not smug about it. Only the marketing folks and the people who fell for the marketing hype were smug. I don't like the Apple superiority complex, I'd prefer Jobs and co. didn't tow that line. Saying that; I am still more secure on Mac OS X. Fact. If Windows becomes more secure one day then I will say so.

      regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

      Andy Brummer wrote:

      Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.

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      • P Paul Watson

        Yes but your original point of "not so smug now" is bollocks. No offense :)

        regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

        Andy Brummer wrote:

        Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.

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        stevepqr
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        Maybe you think its bollocks but you're obviously one of the smarter computer users (being a CP regular) and I still think the less smart users I referred to will find the possibility worrying. Still I don't really care, I'm not high enough on the social scale to know any Mac users anyway :)

        Apathy Rules - I suppose...

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        • O originSH

          Your saying that Apple have never said "haha PC's are crap because they have security problems and we don't!"? obviously not in those exact words ... but they have been pushing that sentiment for a long time ... and now they *do* have security problems. If they hadn't been smug all along then people wouldn't be sniggering in their faces ... but heh .. they were :P

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          Chris Losinger
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          originSH wrote:

          and now they *do* have security problems.

          being able to run a program the user approves is a security problem ? seems like that's lowering the bar quite a bit. it's like complaining that my car has a safety problem because it will drive into a tree at 100mph if i tell it to.

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            originSH wrote:

            and now they *do* have security problems.

            being able to run a program the user approves is a security problem ? seems like that's lowering the bar quite a bit. it's like complaining that my car has a safety problem because it will drive into a tree at 100mph if i tell it to.

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            Most virus attacks are down to the users stupidty/ignorance, that doesn't stop everyone saying that Microsoft are bad for allowing it. They don't realise or don't care that running a PC without virus protection because in most cases all it does is slow down the computer. Its pretty obvious that running a car into a tree will result in pretty serious problems other than the fact that the car will slow down a bit! (still doesn't stop some numbnuts from trying though)

            Apathy Rules - I suppose...

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            • P Paul Watson

              Yeah, wow, I am gutted. I mean... holy crap, what a security hole. 1. You have to visit a porn site 2. Agree to download the DMG 3. Open the DMG 4. Double click the install.pkg 5. Enter your system password 6. Finish the installation How the hell can Apple let that happen? They really shouldn't be letting us mere mortals install stuff on our Macs. They should lock it down like the iPhone! :rolleyes: Trojans like this confuse me. How is it an operating system problem that a user installs malicious software? Signing software doesn't work too well either so that isn't a solution. And I feel the same way for Windows. Trojans shouldn't be counted in the same way self-spreading viruses do. When you find a Mac virus that can infect my computer just by visiting a website and not clicking Yes to anything, tell me.

              regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

              Andy Brummer wrote:

              Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.

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              Christopher Duncan
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              It seems like a perfectly reasonable scenario to me. Visit a porn site, get screwed. Am I missing something here?

              Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Coming soon: Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua! www.PracticalUSA.com

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                It seems like a perfectly reasonable scenario to me. Visit a porn site, get screwed. Am I missing something here?

                Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Coming soon: Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua! www.PracticalUSA.com

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                Paul Watson
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                You have obviously never visited a porn site. You visit but you never get screwed. *sigh After awhile I went back to the gambling sites. I got regularly screwed there.

                regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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                Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.

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                • P Paul Watson

                  You have obviously never visited a porn site. You visit but you never get screwed. *sigh After awhile I went back to the gambling sites. I got regularly screwed there.

                  regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                  Andy Brummer wrote:

                  Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.

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                  :laugh:

                  Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Coming soon: Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua! www.PracticalUSA.com

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                  • S stevepqr

                    Most virus attacks are down to the users stupidty/ignorance, that doesn't stop everyone saying that Microsoft are bad for allowing it. They don't realise or don't care that running a PC without virus protection because in most cases all it does is slow down the computer. Its pretty obvious that running a car into a tree will result in pretty serious problems other than the fact that the car will slow down a bit! (still doesn't stop some numbnuts from trying though)

                    Apathy Rules - I suppose...

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                    Paul Watson
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                    Eh, no, Microsoft *are* bad at security. People got infected simply by connecting to the internet or opening an email in Outlook etc. Bugs in code and design that were exploited and took too long to patch.

                    regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                    Andy Brummer wrote:

                    Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.

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                    • P Paul Watson

                      Eh, no, Microsoft *are* bad at security. People got infected simply by connecting to the internet or opening an email in Outlook etc. Bugs in code and design that were exploited and took too long to patch.

                      regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                      Andy Brummer wrote:

                      Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.

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                      stevepqr
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                      ok :|

                      Apathy Rules - I suppose...

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