.Microsoft Certification
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Whats the point in spending good money on a certification that will be obsolete by next year?
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norm .net wrote:
Whats the point in spending good money on a certification that will be obsolete by next year?
I got my MCAD almost 5 years ago (Feb 14 2003 to be exact), I see job adverts requesting it all the time. It doesn't become obsolete that quickly.
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norm .net wrote:
Whats the point in spending good money on a certification that will be obsolete by next year?
I got my MCAD almost 5 years ago (Feb 14 2003 to be exact), I see job adverts requesting it all the time. It doesn't become obsolete that quickly.
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Wait till the end of November, I'll wager it will change;)
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norm .net wrote:
Wait till the end of November, I'll wager it will change
I've spent the last three months interviewing people. I couldn't believe the number that are still using .NET 1.x (or have only just moved to it). It should go obsolete, but I don't see it happening for some time. Look at the number of crazies who are still using VB6! :omg:
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norm .net wrote:
Wait till the end of November, I'll wager it will change
I've spent the last three months interviewing people. I couldn't believe the number that are still using .NET 1.x (or have only just moved to it). It should go obsolete, but I don't see it happening for some time. Look at the number of crazies who are still using VB6! :omg:
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Colin Angus Mackay wrote:
I couldn't believe the number that are still using .NET 1.x
If you want to be even more amazed, check out the number that are using Java 1.1 :)
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norm .net wrote:
Wait till the end of November, I'll wager it will change
I've spent the last three months interviewing people. I couldn't believe the number that are still using .NET 1.x (or have only just moved to it). It should go obsolete, but I don't see it happening for some time. Look at the number of crazies who are still using VB6! :omg:
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And here's me using WPF, and looking forward to .net 3.5, bleeding edge development, makes my CV look kinda pretty. Roll on VS 2008, cant wait for LINQ, DLINQ, Visual Studio support for WPF, Acropolis and Silverlight 1.1 (I'm not gonna touch 1.0 until support for CLR lanugages).
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Whats the point in spending good money on a certification that will be obsolete by next year?
WPF - Imagineers Wanted Follow your nose using DoubleAnimationUsingPath
Hey, if I wanted certification that badly I'd pay someone to sit it for me. Who has the time? :-)
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norm .net wrote:
Wait till the end of November, I'll wager it will change
I've spent the last three months interviewing people. I couldn't believe the number that are still using .NET 1.x (or have only just moved to it). It should go obsolete, but I don't see it happening for some time. Look at the number of crazies who are still using VB6! :omg:
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Colin Angus Mackay wrote:
Look at the number of crazies who are still using VB6!
As one of those 'crazies', I'd like to respond. We have production applications that were written in VB 6 before .NET appeared; these applications need to be maintained and enhanced as necessary. One application in particular is coupled with a web portion; the web portion is written in classic ASP with VBScript. Yes, there are newer, better, faster, more robust technologies, but, thanks to Sarbanes and Oxley, changing these applications is a momental pain in the... backside... Right now, I have been tasked with making the pair of applications more robust and portable. I would LOVE the have the time to redesign them from the ground up, but, I don't... so, we soldier on with what we have making incremental improvements as time allows. Now, combine that with a mangement thought of, "How much is it going to cost to buy licenses to upgrade the developers versus telling them to continue using the tools they have at their disposal?" If you cannot justify the expense by showing how it will pay for itself, why spend the money? Yes, eventually, they will have to, but, until then... Last week, our call center replaced a PC at a remote site... it was an early PII version, still running Windows '95. Since the user didn't need anything more robust until now, the cost savings over time have been significant. Points to ponder... Tim
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Certification is a waste of time. Consider that MS changes the rules every year, so a new certification is required. Finally, the end of the Mayan calendar is very close (5 years), and the world is going to end. Any certification you might earn now will most certainly be obsoleted by the end of the world as we know it.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Finally, the end of the Mayan calendar is very close (5 years), and the world is going to end
Want to bet on that? I propose that if the world does not end when the Mayan calendar does, you have to take an embarassing picture of yourself (details to be determined by best idea here) and use it as your profile picture for one calendar year. If the world does come to an end I'll be happy to reciprocate.
Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscripti catapultas habebunt
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Finally, the end of the Mayan calendar is very close (5 years), and the world is going to end
Want to bet on that? I propose that if the world does not end when the Mayan calendar does, you have to take an embarassing picture of yourself (details to be determined by best idea here) and use it as your profile picture for one calendar year. If the world does come to an end I'll be happy to reciprocate.
Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscripti catapultas habebunt
Five years is a long time. You're assuming that I'll be able to put up with the CP forum software for that long. :) Beyond that, the bet is one-sided. If the world DOES end, nobody (including me) will be around to collect from when I win. Sure, I will have been right, but I won't be able to gloat...
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
Five years is a long time. You're assuming that I'll be able to put up with the CP forum software for that long. :) Beyond that, the bet is one-sided. If the world DOES end, nobody (including me) will be around to collect from when I win. Sure, I will have been right, but I won't be able to gloat...
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
What? You don't believe in a nice shiny new afterlife where you can sit on a cloud and pontificate on how right you were? ;)
More people died from worry than ever bled to death. - RAH
Which brings up a question - if reincarnation really exists, and assuming that reincarnation is an unstoppable force, what happens if everyone is blown off the planet in one fell swoop? Would we be so desperate to re-instantiate ourselves that we would come back as whatever life form was spared the destruction of the planet?
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
Which brings up a question - if reincarnation really exists, and assuming that reincarnation is an unstoppable force, what happens if everyone is blown off the planet in one fell swoop? Would we be so desperate to re-instantiate ourselves that we would come back as whatever life form was spared the destruction of the planet?
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
