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  • T ToddHileHoffer

    Apparently it goes Java, C, Visual Basic, C++. Not sure what this means. http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm

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    snorkie
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    Interesting. I would be curious to see what the actual numbers are for each language. Hogan

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      That's like judging the popularity of a girl by how many guys already have dated her.


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      Xiangyang Liu
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      peterchen wrote:

      That's like judging the popularity of a girl by how many guys already have dated her.

      The correct way is: Judging the popularity of a girl by how many guys want to date her. :-D

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        Interesting. I would be curious to see what the actual numbers are for each language. Hogan

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        Dan Neely
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        You can buy their dataset if you really care $1500 worth. :doh:

        -- If you view money as inherently evil, I view it as my duty to assist in making you more virtuous.

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        • T ToddHileHoffer

          Apparently it goes Java, C, Visual Basic, C++. Not sure what this means. http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm

          I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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          Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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          nothing really. One can easily use many languages when developing. C#/JavaScript is a combo that is often on found for web development, SQL is there also if there's any database connectivity of sorts, then there's XML (it is a language, eXtensible Markup Language;p) So for a single web app, 4 languages have been used, albeit the brunt of the work was conducted by C#. And there's the glue languages paradigm where you use such languages as Perl, Python and Lua (awesome stuff). And there's the maintaining of old code that is conducted with the same language that wrote it. So this [the statistic] pretty much means nothing.

          "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"

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          • X Xiangyang Liu

            peterchen wrote:

            That's like judging the popularity of a girl by how many guys already have dated her.

            The correct way is: Judging the popularity of a girl by how many guys want to date her. :-D

            My .NET Business Application Framework My Home Page

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            peterchen
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            exactly my point :)


            We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
            My first real C# project | Linkify!|FoldWithUs! | sighist

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            • T ToddHileHoffer

              Apparently it goes Java, C, Visual Basic, C++. Not sure what this means. http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm

              I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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              Anton Afanasyev
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              ooooh, Lua is going up...


              :badger:

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              • T ToddHileHoffer

                Apparently it goes Java, C, Visual Basic, C++. Not sure what this means. http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm

                I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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                Paul Conrad
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                ToddHileHoffer wrote:

                Not sure what this means.

                I don't think it really means much. I don't really ever look at stats like that because usually it is skewed or biased.

                "Any sort of work in VB6 is bound to provide several WTF moments." - Christian Graus

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                • C Christian Graus

                  "The ratings are based on the world-wide availability of skilled engineers, courses and third party vendors" It means there's a lot of highly visible, out of work Java devs ? :P VB is high because VB6 was and is useless without C++ 'third party' components.

                  Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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                  Paul Conrad
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                  It could have been secretly done by Sun... :suss:

                  "Any sort of work in VB6 is bound to provide several WTF moments." - Christian Graus

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                  • T ToddHileHoffer

                    Apparently it goes Java, C, Visual Basic, C++. Not sure what this means. http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm

                    I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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                    bob16972
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                    You missed the fact that tiobe recently merged VB and VB.NET into one category because they suddenly decided the two languages were similar?!? :rolleyes: (might as well make C and C++ into C/C++ in that case) This is causing a massive swing upward in the VB ranking this year. Also, the stats only show how often people resort to googling for information on a language topic. Not as scientific as one would hope for. Also, look at those massive swings. If I remember right from Physics class, the error analysis would not be good on their data.

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                    • X Xiangyang Liu

                      peterchen wrote:

                      That's like judging the popularity of a girl by how many guys already have dated her.

                      The correct way is: Judging the popularity of a girl by how many guys want to date her. :-D

                      My .NET Business Application Framework My Home Page

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                      Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                      Xiangyang Liu wrote:

                      peterchen wrote: That's like judging the popularity of a girl by how many guys already have dated her.

                      This indicates the number of existing customers for a particular product or sevice.

                      Xiangyang Liu wrote:

                      guys want to date her

                      This may stand to indicate the waiting list of customers. So do you feel the latter is a good benchmark to ascertain the popularity of the girl?:-D

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                      • P Paul Conrad

                        ToddHileHoffer wrote:

                        Not sure what this means.

                        I don't think it really means much. I don't really ever look at stats like that because usually it is skewed or biased.

                        "Any sort of work in VB6 is bound to provide several WTF moments." - Christian Graus

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                        Ilya Verbitskiy
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                        When I studied in the university I saw one amazing thing. My friends downloaded these reports, read them and started to learn new programming languages. And they always said that this "new" language is the best. These reports are interesting, but this one looks like it was paid by Sun. :) Few weeks ago I saw the same "report" paid by Microsoft.

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                        • X Xiangyang Liu

                          peterchen wrote:

                          That's like judging the popularity of a girl by how many guys already have dated her.

                          The correct way is: Judging the popularity of a girl by how many guys want to date her. :-D

                          My .NET Business Application Framework My Home Page

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                          Paul Watson
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                          You still need the "How many has she dated" figure. You want that to be a low figure and your figure to be a high one.

                          regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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                          Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.

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                          • T ToddHileHoffer

                            Apparently it goes Java, C, Visual Basic, C++. Not sure what this means. http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm

                            I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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                            LenaBr
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                            It would be better to check job adds and salaries. Then you would know what is really wanted out there. Lena

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                            • C Christian Graus

                              "The ratings are based on the world-wide availability of skilled engineers, courses and third party vendors" It means there's a lot of highly visible, out of work Java devs ? :P VB is high because VB6 was and is useless without C++ 'third party' components.

                              Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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                              gelu_solomon
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                              Maybe it means that there are more Java applications then you want to acknowledge. You are like the fox in the fable: “Those grapes are probably sour. I don't want them”

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                              • M Mustafa Ismail Mustafa

                                nothing really. One can easily use many languages when developing. C#/JavaScript is a combo that is often on found for web development, SQL is there also if there's any database connectivity of sorts, then there's XML (it is a language, eXtensible Markup Language;p) So for a single web app, 4 languages have been used, albeit the brunt of the work was conducted by C#. And there's the glue languages paradigm where you use such languages as Perl, Python and Lua (awesome stuff). And there's the maintaining of old code that is conducted with the same language that wrote it. So this [the statistic] pretty much means nothing.

                                "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"

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                                Tom Delany
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                                Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:

                                "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook

                                I love that quote! Cheers,

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                                • T ToddHileHoffer

                                  Apparently it goes Java, C, Visual Basic, C++. Not sure what this means. http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm

                                  I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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                                  grgran
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                                  COBOL was once very popular (and is still 17 on their list). Java is the new COBOL. I've written in both Java and COBOL. Neither are my first choice, but I've noticed that the computer doesn't much care. I think it might mean that our understanding of computers and programming is limited and hopeful evolving. Of course it could also just be a BVMS (Big Vat of Meanless Statistics).

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                                  • T ToddHileHoffer

                                    Apparently it goes Java, C, Visual Basic, C++. Not sure what this means. http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm

                                    I didn't get any requirements for the signature

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                                    deltalmg
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                                    Yeah, meaningless. If I'm looking for C or C++ symantics for doing a while loop I'll type C in my search bar because I'm lazy, but I actually want C++. The numbers would be vastly different between: 1) search hits 2) active development 3) number of lines of code in existence The bottom line is use the language that makes sense for your project. If you have a small project and a bunch of experienced Java developers, why say lets use Ruby and take a spin up penality even if Ruby would be 10% better? It is a combination of the resources you already have, and the efficiency of the language, not one or the other.

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                                    • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

                                      Xiangyang Liu wrote:

                                      peterchen wrote: That's like judging the popularity of a girl by how many guys already have dated her.

                                      This indicates the number of existing customers for a particular product or sevice.

                                      Xiangyang Liu wrote:

                                      guys want to date her

                                      This may stand to indicate the waiting list of customers. So do you feel the latter is a good benchmark to ascertain the popularity of the girl?:-D

                                      Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage Tech Gossips
                                      Yesterday is a canceled check. Tomorrow is a promissory note. Today is the ready cash. USE IT.

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                                      Lost User
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                                      Vasudevan Deepak Kumar wrote:

                                      So do you feel the latter is a good benchmark to ascertain the popularity of the girl?

                                      Is this MY DAUGHTER or someone elses?:mad:

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                                      • T ToddHileHoffer

                                        Apparently it goes Java, C, Visual Basic, C++. Not sure what this means. http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm

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                                        Lost User
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                                        I don't know about all that other... stuff, but I really liked their colorful graph! So easy to follow. It must be true!

                                        ____________________________________________________________________________ "Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space." -- Douglas Adams -- Shohom67

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                                        • T ToddHileHoffer

                                          Apparently it goes Java, C, Visual Basic, C++. Not sure what this means. http://www.tiobe.com/tpci.htm

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                                          MrPlankton
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                                          I have a crescent wrench in my tool chest. I use it for everything. Sometimes I strip bolts with it since it only has 2 contact sides. Sometimes I use it like a hammer. I have other tools in my tool chest that may be better for the task, but some times I am too lazy to go over and use them even if it does save me some time and less stuff broken. To me the crescent wrench is a popular tool, but some how I suspect it's popularity is not a sign of it's ubiquitousness but of my incompetence.

                                          MrPlankton

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