Daddy, what are drugs?
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My six year old son who is currently in first grade at school, has recently been exposed to a school anti-drug campaign - "Just say no to drugs". Last night he asked me, "What are drugs?" It would seem to me that the school has just piqued his interest in something he previously knew nothing about! I can't help thinking that an anti-drug campaign targeted at six year olds is a little ridiculous, and I'm of half a mind to ask to have him excluded from future sessions. Am I really living in a blind Utopia where a six-year old doesn't know about drugs, or is the rest of the country in some sort of meth-induced meltdown, such that 1st graders are getting pat-downs for crack pipes?
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My six year old son who is currently in first grade at school, has recently been exposed to a school anti-drug campaign - "Just say no to drugs". Last night he asked me, "What are drugs?" It would seem to me that the school has just piqued his interest in something he previously knew nothing about! I can't help thinking that an anti-drug campaign targeted at six year olds is a little ridiculous, and I'm of half a mind to ask to have him excluded from future sessions. Am I really living in a blind Utopia where a six-year old doesn't know about drugs, or is the rest of the country in some sort of meth-induced meltdown, such that 1st graders are getting pat-downs for crack pipes?
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Miszou wrote:
or is the rest of the country in some sort of meth-induced meltdown,
Drugs including Meth and Crack are at a critical stage. I think it was ?Wyoming?, had a special on the other night and said that 70% of adults and 50% teens where using Meth frequently. But the anti-drug program isn't a recent thing it has been going on for years. My kids are grown but I remember many years ago them coming home from school and telling me that there teachers told them if anyone in the house was using drugs to turn them in for there own good. At the time I also thought it was ridiculous and still do. I akin it to something I remember from my childhood... Soupy Sales (a kiddy show of the time) asked kids to go into there parents room and find money and send it to him! Under cover agents??? Mike
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My six year old son who is currently in first grade at school, has recently been exposed to a school anti-drug campaign - "Just say no to drugs". Last night he asked me, "What are drugs?" It would seem to me that the school has just piqued his interest in something he previously knew nothing about! I can't help thinking that an anti-drug campaign targeted at six year olds is a little ridiculous, and I'm of half a mind to ask to have him excluded from future sessions. Am I really living in a blind Utopia where a six-year old doesn't know about drugs, or is the rest of the country in some sort of meth-induced meltdown, such that 1st graders are getting pat-downs for crack pipes?
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:wtf: Another reason why I am becoming even less supportive of the public school system.
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My six year old son who is currently in first grade at school, has recently been exposed to a school anti-drug campaign - "Just say no to drugs". Last night he asked me, "What are drugs?" It would seem to me that the school has just piqued his interest in something he previously knew nothing about! I can't help thinking that an anti-drug campaign targeted at six year olds is a little ridiculous, and I'm of half a mind to ask to have him excluded from future sessions. Am I really living in a blind Utopia where a six-year old doesn't know about drugs, or is the rest of the country in some sort of meth-induced meltdown, such that 1st graders are getting pat-downs for crack pipes?
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I was already interested in drugs when I was six. I wondered what made people take them, how the people felt, etc. I nearly studied pharmacology, and if I had, the precarious process of satisfying my curiosity, when I was old enough to afford drugs, would probably have been less risky. Now I know a lot about drugs that makes me in a way not having access to them.
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My six year old son who is currently in first grade at school, has recently been exposed to a school anti-drug campaign - "Just say no to drugs". Last night he asked me, "What are drugs?" It would seem to me that the school has just piqued his interest in something he previously knew nothing about! I can't help thinking that an anti-drug campaign targeted at six year olds is a little ridiculous, and I'm of half a mind to ask to have him excluded from future sessions. Am I really living in a blind Utopia where a six-year old doesn't know about drugs, or is the rest of the country in some sort of meth-induced meltdown, such that 1st graders are getting pat-downs for crack pipes?
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Miszou wrote:
I'm of half a mind to ask to have him excluded from future sessions
its too late at this point, he's already curious, and excluding him from future lessons means that he will find out anyway from the other students in the program. starting an anti drug campaign at 6 is ridiculous, but the damage has already been done.
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Holy crap! 6 years old and being taught about (presumably illicit rather than prescription) drugs? :wtf: I'm all for educating on sensitive issues but surely this is too young!
First Ennis is correct. Second, and I'm not advocating, just asking....
J4amieC wrote:
but surely this is too young!
it would be better to wait until they have been indoctrinated by peers and then have a school program tell them just say no? Just because this one child has not yet been exposed doesn't mean none of them have, right? Again I'm not advocating this I only questioning the specific logic you were using to protest. Ennis's point is 100% correct, however in reality we know this does not occur, or even always work, which is the actual problem. These school programs are like spitting on a fire IMHO.
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Holy crap! 6 years old and being taught about (presumably illicit rather than prescription) drugs? :wtf: I'm all for educating on sensitive issues but surely this is too young!
J4amieC wrote:
Holy crap! 6 years old and being taught about (presumably illicit rather than prescription) drugs?
I think they were also being taught about sexual harrasment ...
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My six year old son who is currently in first grade at school, has recently been exposed to a school anti-drug campaign - "Just say no to drugs". Last night he asked me, "What are drugs?" It would seem to me that the school has just piqued his interest in something he previously knew nothing about! I can't help thinking that an anti-drug campaign targeted at six year olds is a little ridiculous, and I'm of half a mind to ask to have him excluded from future sessions. Am I really living in a blind Utopia where a six-year old doesn't know about drugs, or is the rest of the country in some sort of meth-induced meltdown, such that 1st graders are getting pat-downs for crack pipes?
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Miszou wrote:
I can't help thinking that an anti-drug campaign targeted at six year olds is a little ridiculous, and I'm of half a mind to ask to have him excluded from future sessions.
Have you not seen the anti-smoking campaign ads on TV showing the mother talking to her 6-month old infant about how smoking doesn't make you look cool? The ads then say it's never too early to talk to your kids about smoking. The same logic can be applied to drugs and alcohol. I remember a couple of months ago there was a story in the news where two teenagers were arrested for giving their ?4? year old nephew hits on a joint. It's a sad sad world. If your six year old is out of your sight where you're not sure there's constant adult supervision (like a friend's house) then won't you feel better knowing that he knows to say no to drugs?
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My six year old son who is currently in first grade at school, has recently been exposed to a school anti-drug campaign - "Just say no to drugs". Last night he asked me, "What are drugs?" It would seem to me that the school has just piqued his interest in something he previously knew nothing about! I can't help thinking that an anti-drug campaign targeted at six year olds is a little ridiculous, and I'm of half a mind to ask to have him excluded from future sessions. Am I really living in a blind Utopia where a six-year old doesn't know about drugs, or is the rest of the country in some sort of meth-induced meltdown, such that 1st graders are getting pat-downs for crack pipes?
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Six is too young to talk about drugs. Also, don't let the schools lie to your kids without telling them the truth. Most schools teach kids that all drugs are bad. Then they go try pot. After having a lot of laughs and maybe eating to many doritos they might think the teachers are lying. Then they might do something stupid like trying heroin. Be honest with your kids. For some drugs the worse thing about them is the law, other drugs really are dangerous. But you shouldn't have to have that conversation for at least 4 more yeats.
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My six year old son who is currently in first grade at school, has recently been exposed to a school anti-drug campaign - "Just say no to drugs". Last night he asked me, "What are drugs?" It would seem to me that the school has just piqued his interest in something he previously knew nothing about! I can't help thinking that an anti-drug campaign targeted at six year olds is a little ridiculous, and I'm of half a mind to ask to have him excluded from future sessions. Am I really living in a blind Utopia where a six-year old doesn't know about drugs, or is the rest of the country in some sort of meth-induced meltdown, such that 1st graders are getting pat-downs for crack pipes?
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It sounds like you have a smart son. And it's great that he trusts you with this very important question. Judging by you post I'm sure you also gave him a thoughful answer. Last week was the week of project DARE, but the fires in Southern California kept our schools closed for the week so we missed it. I catch myself when I warn my kids about stuff all the time. Climbing furninture, household chemicals, sharp utensils. Does the the explanation of the danger increase the appeal that they will try it? There's a lot of handwringing over the effectiveness of Project DARE, but like others said he's going to find out about it sooner or later. I wouldn't stress about institutional influences too much. You can't realistically control all of them. Shielding too much is probably more harmful. Better that kids take what they see and reflect with the parents. (commment: ha-ha I just realized I'm trying to apply a software architecture pattern to raise my kids!) IMHO Probably the number one cause of substance abuse is poor family dynamics. Kids who are ignored or abused turn to substances to fill that void in their lives. So long as kids have a good home environment they should be fine.
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Miszou wrote:
or is the rest of the country in some sort of meth-induced meltdown,
Drugs including Meth and Crack are at a critical stage. I think it was ?Wyoming?, had a special on the other night and said that 70% of adults and 50% teens where using Meth frequently. But the anti-drug program isn't a recent thing it has been going on for years. My kids are grown but I remember many years ago them coming home from school and telling me that there teachers told them if anyone in the house was using drugs to turn them in for there own good. At the time I also thought it was ridiculous and still do. I akin it to something I remember from my childhood... Soupy Sales (a kiddy show of the time) asked kids to go into there parents room and find money and send it to him! Under cover agents??? Mike
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Mike Hankey wrote:
70% of adults and 50% teens where using Meth frequently.
what...i would really like to see the evidence on that one...what kind of scale was this percentage applied to...
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I was already interested in drugs when I was six. I wondered what made people take them, how the people felt, etc. I nearly studied pharmacology, and if I had, the precarious process of satisfying my curiosity, when I was old enough to afford drugs, would probably have been less risky. Now I know a lot about drugs that makes me in a way not having access to them.
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Brady Kelly wrote:
I was already interested in drugs when I was six. I wondered what made people take them, how the people felt, etc. I nearly studied pharmacology,
pretty heavy load for a six year old...
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:wtf: Another reason why I am becoming even less supportive of the public school system.
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There was a study in Montréal (Canada) about drug use in school They found that there is as much if not more drug use in the private schools and colleges than in the public system schools. One of the reason is that kids in private schools usually have access to more money and they could afford better drugs and in safest ways than in public schools; there is less visible "criminal" behaviour in and around school, so it's harder to see if you are not used to look for specific patterns. One reporter went to one of the most known college ( Collège Jean-de-Brébeuf ) and in a few minutes talking to students he was able to find half a dozen kids selling drugs.
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Miszou wrote:
I can't help thinking that an anti-drug campaign targeted at six year olds is a little ridiculous, and I'm of half a mind to ask to have him excluded from future sessions.
Have you not seen the anti-smoking campaign ads on TV showing the mother talking to her 6-month old infant about how smoking doesn't make you look cool? The ads then say it's never too early to talk to your kids about smoking. The same logic can be applied to drugs and alcohol. I remember a couple of months ago there was a story in the news where two teenagers were arrested for giving their ?4? year old nephew hits on a joint. It's a sad sad world. If your six year old is out of your sight where you're not sure there's constant adult supervision (like a friend's house) then won't you feel better knowing that he knows to say no to drugs?
FyreWyrm wrote:
won't you feel better knowing that he knows to say no to drugs?
To be honest, no. At this point he doesn't have a clue what drugs are, nor why they are so bad. To ask a curious six year old to decline something, without explaining what it is, is just silly. For example, my older (17) daughter said something the other day, he overheard it and promptly started repeating it. So, now you have a six year old in the car, shouting "faggots" at the top of his voice, getting laughs out of his sisters, and me and my wife trying to get him to stop. So then you have to explain why "faggot" isn't a nice thing to say etc. and all the while you know that he's filed the word away and it will come out at some inopportune moment. He can't unlearn it - the damage is done, and the same is true with drug edcuation at six years old. No-one is going to give him drugs and say "Here, try these DRUGS!" If someone offers him a cigarette, a crack pipe or a tab of LSD, it won't have a big flashing "DRUGS!!!OMG!!11!" sign on it - it will be much more subtle, and he will be very unlikely to associate "drugs" with "eat this candy".
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Brady Kelly wrote:
I was already interested in drugs when I was six. I wondered what made people take them, how the people felt, etc. I nearly studied pharmacology,
pretty heavy load for a six year old...
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My interest in studying in that field only started around 10 or 11 years old, but I think my healthy interest in drugs played a part in it. It wasn't long after that I started wondering why the people I read about sniffed solvents.
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Six is too young to talk about drugs. Also, don't let the schools lie to your kids without telling them the truth. Most schools teach kids that all drugs are bad. Then they go try pot. After having a lot of laughs and maybe eating to many doritos they might think the teachers are lying. Then they might do something stupid like trying heroin. Be honest with your kids. For some drugs the worse thing about them is the law, other drugs really are dangerous. But you shouldn't have to have that conversation for at least 4 more yeats.
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Mike Hankey wrote:
70% of adults and 50% teens where using Meth frequently.
what...i would really like to see the evidence on that one...what kind of scale was this percentage applied to...
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I googled for a while and couldn't find any numbers but you know news casters are accurite in there information?? but did find a bunch on "drug problem in Wyoming" it is serious! Mike
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My six year old son who is currently in first grade at school, has recently been exposed to a school anti-drug campaign - "Just say no to drugs". Last night he asked me, "What are drugs?" It would seem to me that the school has just piqued his interest in something he previously knew nothing about! I can't help thinking that an anti-drug campaign targeted at six year olds is a little ridiculous, and I'm of half a mind to ask to have him excluded from future sessions. Am I really living in a blind Utopia where a six-year old doesn't know about drugs, or is the rest of the country in some sort of meth-induced meltdown, such that 1st graders are getting pat-downs for crack pipes?
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I was a drug addict for 19 horrible years. The last six of which were spent using meth. That almost ended with my death. Six years is all it took for me to have all but 3 of my teeth rot down to their cores, they've all been pulled. My body was over-flowing with infection and disease. My neck had a 9" X 3" boil -- several smaller ones had congregated into one multi core nightmare -- which left behind several huge cysts; including one in the shape of an almond that grew deep into my neck muscle. They can't be removed, since there isn't any tissue there to take it's place. So it will take at least another 10+ years of medicines to make them disappate. The list goes on and on -- the worst of which? My mind.:sigh: At first I had to count with my fingers, because I couldn't keep focused long enough to do it in my head. I couldn't read books. I couldn't retain anything. I had to fight hard to get it back and I'm still fighting, in some ways I always will. I'm just grateful that my mother was able to see me sober for two years before she died. Here in Phoenix, AZ meth is a problem of epidemic proportions. The drug is being used by 10 and 11 year olds. Maybe in your area I'd see things differently, but when 9 year kids get busted for bringing meth to school to sell, then yes, I would want my kindergartener age child to know what to do. I'd want a police officer to teach them and I'd want to have the opportunity to sign off on it and to attend. I would talk to them about it myself, as well.
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Holy crap! 6 years old and being taught about (presumably illicit rather than prescription) drugs? :wtf: I'm all for educating on sensitive issues but surely this is too young!
is it really. depending on where some live 5 year olds snort coke and 10 yearolds shoot smack and booty calls abound for all that are under 13. wake up and smell the perversion.
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FyreWyrm wrote:
won't you feel better knowing that he knows to say no to drugs?
To be honest, no. At this point he doesn't have a clue what drugs are, nor why they are so bad. To ask a curious six year old to decline something, without explaining what it is, is just silly. For example, my older (17) daughter said something the other day, he overheard it and promptly started repeating it. So, now you have a six year old in the car, shouting "faggots" at the top of his voice, getting laughs out of his sisters, and me and my wife trying to get him to stop. So then you have to explain why "faggot" isn't a nice thing to say etc. and all the while you know that he's filed the word away and it will come out at some inopportune moment. He can't unlearn it - the damage is done, and the same is true with drug edcuation at six years old. No-one is going to give him drugs and say "Here, try these DRUGS!" If someone offers him a cigarette, a crack pipe or a tab of LSD, it won't have a big flashing "DRUGS!!!OMG!!11!" sign on it - it will be much more subtle, and he will be very unlikely to associate "drugs" with "eat this candy".
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You are absolutely right, and I think, you won't have any control over it when he will grew up. It will depend a lot on his personality and entourage. You can think education have an important role here, personnaly I don't. I have no kids, but I can imagine how stressfull a situation like that can be. I it the same in all public schools?
