UN conference in Bali. [modified]
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So I just contaced John Hay, the UN FCC conference spokes person and asked him some questions: 1) 10,000 yes really, 10,000 people are going to attend the conference in Bali for 2 weeks. And thats not including the press, who no doubt will number at least 1,000. 2) He wasnt forthcoming regarding the Carbon Footprint of the conference, I expect it hasnt even beem calculated, but assume each person, probably flying business class (on your tax money), has a total weight of around around 100 kg, then thats 1,100,000 kgs of 'airfright' alone created by the confernce. Whats the carbon footprint of that lot for a 12 hour flight? So using Flight Emissions Calculator[^] one can calculate that for a flight from Denmark to Indonesia each person costs 2.5 tonnes of CO2. Thats 27,500 tonnes of CO2 just for the flights say. But theres more! Check out this seductively glossy production: climate change conference 2OO7[^] and particularly page 18. (Thats just after the 5* hotel list (alsoo on your tax money), the 'Optional Tours' section. Yes, you can spend 6 hours, 8 hours, 9 hours, or 4 days driving and flying around the wonderful islands of indonesia lapping up the cultural beauty and atmosphere (before it is all wiped out ny Global Warming that is). The general conditions make interesting reading: Inclusive in Tour Price: Tour and transfers as mentioned in the itinerary with private airconditioned vehicle. English speaking guide. Entrance fee, donation fee and luggage handling. Accommodation at Hotel. Exclusive: Airport taxes. Tipping, gratuities & other personal expenses. Notes: Additional night in Bali might be required, depending on the return flight to the country of origin that originally booked. Ah yes, 5 days swanning around in private airconditioned cars, flying first class, staying in 5 * hotels! So whats that lot going to cost extra? a few tonnes more each? Not to mention the electricity used. 11,000 laptops and phones running for 2 weeks? Thats a few more tonnes. Food? How much has to be shipped in? Can Bali really feed that many? How about all the drink tha
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Ah, my quarry - I have found you.
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Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
Ah, my quarry - I have found you.
Looks like someone has a crush.
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Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
Ah, my quarry - I have found you.
Looks like someone has a crush.
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Maybe I do...;)
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Maybe I do...;)
It may be a jewel of open-source, but Firefox is just a browser. It shows web pages. What the hell is wrong with us?!
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
Maybe I do...
This is insurance incase you realize what that means and decide to delete your post.
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Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
Maybe I do...
This is insurance incase you realize what that means and decide to delete your post.
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Oh, I know what it means.
It may be a jewel of open-source, but Firefox is just a browser. It shows web pages. What the hell is wrong with us?!
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Didn't you receive your invite. The jollyboys outing won't be the same without you. :sigh:
fat_boy wrote:
Deffinitely going to punch someones lights out...
Don't do that, go hug (burn?) a tree.
Richard A. Abbott wrote:
Don't do that, go hug (burn?) a tree.
I had some god fun with the McCulloch 16" at the weekend. I feel the need agin this weekend, perhaps that will make me feel better.
Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception
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So I just contaced John Hay, the UN FCC conference spokes person and asked him some questions: 1) 10,000 yes really, 10,000 people are going to attend the conference in Bali for 2 weeks. And thats not including the press, who no doubt will number at least 1,000. 2) He wasnt forthcoming regarding the Carbon Footprint of the conference, I expect it hasnt even beem calculated, but assume each person, probably flying business class (on your tax money), has a total weight of around around 100 kg, then thats 1,100,000 kgs of 'airfright' alone created by the confernce. Whats the carbon footprint of that lot for a 12 hour flight? So using Flight Emissions Calculator[^] one can calculate that for a flight from Denmark to Indonesia each person costs 2.5 tonnes of CO2. Thats 27,500 tonnes of CO2 just for the flights say. But theres more! Check out this seductively glossy production: climate change conference 2OO7[^] and particularly page 18. (Thats just after the 5* hotel list (alsoo on your tax money), the 'Optional Tours' section. Yes, you can spend 6 hours, 8 hours, 9 hours, or 4 days driving and flying around the wonderful islands of indonesia lapping up the cultural beauty and atmosphere (before it is all wiped out ny Global Warming that is). The general conditions make interesting reading: Inclusive in Tour Price: Tour and transfers as mentioned in the itinerary with private airconditioned vehicle. English speaking guide. Entrance fee, donation fee and luggage handling. Accommodation at Hotel. Exclusive: Airport taxes. Tipping, gratuities & other personal expenses. Notes: Additional night in Bali might be required, depending on the return flight to the country of origin that originally booked. Ah yes, 5 days swanning around in private airconditioned cars, flying first class, staying in 5 * hotels! So whats that lot going to cost extra? a few tonnes more each? Not to mention the electricity used. 11,000 laptops and phones running for 2 weeks? Thats a few more tonnes. Food? How much has to be shipped in? Can Bali really feed that many? How about all the drink tha
Nice one: keep it up: wish I had the time to do this as well. Might I susggest, however, that you adopt a new alias as I doubt that any GWankers even bother to read your posts any more: they just mark them as 1.
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Nice one: keep it up: wish I had the time to do this as well. Might I susggest, however, that you adopt a new alias as I doubt that any GWankers even bother to read your posts any more: they just mark them as 1.
digital man wrote:
I doubt that any GWankers even bother to read your posts any more: they just mark them as 1.
Hey! I read it! I just couldn't get over the fact that he thinks I'm stalking him. :laugh:
It may be a jewel of open-source, but Firefox is just a browser. It shows web pages. What the hell is wrong with us?!
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Nice one: keep it up: wish I had the time to do this as well. Might I susggest, however, that you adopt a new alias as I doubt that any GWankers even bother to read your posts any more: they just mark them as 1.
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Richard A. Abbott wrote:
Don't do that, go hug (burn?) a tree.
I had some god fun with the McCulloch 16" at the weekend. I feel the need agin this weekend, perhaps that will make me feel better.
Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception
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Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
Maybe I do...
This is insurance incase you realize what that means and decide to delete your post.
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CataclysmicQuantums wrote:
This is insurance incase you realize what that means and decide to delete your post.
You are a warped person. What is it about posts relating to homosexuality that you find so fascinating you have to 'take out insurance' or, as you did with me, re-publicise it in the dellusion that others would find it as interesting as you do? If you want to experiment a little go out and do it. At least you will get it out of your system, or find a more satisfying way of life.
Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception
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I have 7 overgrown conifers to get rid of, some taller than my house, so if you want to put that McCulloch to good use ...
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digital man wrote:
I doubt that any GWankers even bother to read your posts any more: they just mark them as 1.
Hey! I read it! I just couldn't get over the fact that he thinks I'm stalking him. :laugh:
It may be a jewel of open-source, but Firefox is just a browser. It shows web pages. What the hell is wrong with us?!
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
Hey! I read it! I just couldn't get over the fact that he thinks I'm stalking him.
Only kidding. Its a classic way to get rid of someone who constantly jumps on your posts.
Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception
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CataclysmicQuantums wrote:
This is insurance incase you realize what that means and decide to delete your post.
You are a warped person. What is it about posts relating to homosexuality that you find so fascinating you have to 'take out insurance' or, as you did with me, re-publicise it in the dellusion that others would find it as interesting as you do? If you want to experiment a little go out and do it. At least you will get it out of your system, or find a more satisfying way of life.
Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception
Where did this idiot spring up from? And is he really a SW engineer? I can barely imagine the code he writes based on the logic of his arguments. He's either a VB coder or the most convincing yet of Kyles personalities.
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Where did this idiot spring up from? And is he really a SW engineer? I can barely imagine the code he writes based on the logic of his arguments. He's either a VB coder or the most convincing yet of Kyles personalities.
46 75 63 6B 20 79 6F 75 20 4B 79 6C 65 20 45 64 77 61 72 64 73 20 66 72 6F 6D 20 41 72 6B 61 6E 73 61 73 21 20 46 75 63 6B 20 79 6F 75 20 74 6F 20 68 65 6C 6C This is a coded message, if you decode it and you are offended, it is your own f****ing fault.
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Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
Hey! I read it! I just couldn't get over the fact that he thinks I'm stalking him.
Only kidding. Its a classic way to get rid of someone who constantly jumps on your posts.
Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception
fat_boy wrote:
Only kidding. Its a classic way to get rid of someone who constantly jumps on your posts.
You did insult MmmBop...:mad: OK, so MAYBE I am a silly, loser kid sometimes (often), but...can you blame me? You'd better not. ;P But you shoulda known it wouldn't get rid of me. Although I did feel oddly compelled to go 'beddie byes' last night. :suss: I did, in fact.
It may be a jewel of open-source, but Firefox is just a browser. It shows web pages. What the hell is wrong with us?!
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But I was right wasnt I. You arent a SW engineer, you are a short order cook in a burger bar. Or were untill you got the sack.
Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception
fat_boy wrote:
Or were untill you got the sack.
I quit my last job. I don't get paid to engineer my own software because its a hobby. Now I am a professional bum who can't seem to get away from the computer to save my life. Thank God I can apply for almost any job online.
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So I just contaced John Hay, the UN FCC conference spokes person and asked him some questions: 1) 10,000 yes really, 10,000 people are going to attend the conference in Bali for 2 weeks. And thats not including the press, who no doubt will number at least 1,000. 2) He wasnt forthcoming regarding the Carbon Footprint of the conference, I expect it hasnt even beem calculated, but assume each person, probably flying business class (on your tax money), has a total weight of around around 100 kg, then thats 1,100,000 kgs of 'airfright' alone created by the confernce. Whats the carbon footprint of that lot for a 12 hour flight? So using Flight Emissions Calculator[^] one can calculate that for a flight from Denmark to Indonesia each person costs 2.5 tonnes of CO2. Thats 27,500 tonnes of CO2 just for the flights say. But theres more! Check out this seductively glossy production: climate change conference 2OO7[^] and particularly page 18. (Thats just after the 5* hotel list (alsoo on your tax money), the 'Optional Tours' section. Yes, you can spend 6 hours, 8 hours, 9 hours, or 4 days driving and flying around the wonderful islands of indonesia lapping up the cultural beauty and atmosphere (before it is all wiped out ny Global Warming that is). The general conditions make interesting reading: Inclusive in Tour Price: Tour and transfers as mentioned in the itinerary with private airconditioned vehicle. English speaking guide. Entrance fee, donation fee and luggage handling. Accommodation at Hotel. Exclusive: Airport taxes. Tipping, gratuities & other personal expenses. Notes: Additional night in Bali might be required, depending on the return flight to the country of origin that originally booked. Ah yes, 5 days swanning around in private airconditioned cars, flying first class, staying in 5 * hotels! So whats that lot going to cost extra? a few tonnes more each? Not to mention the electricity used. 11,000 laptops and phones running for 2 weeks? Thats a few more tonnes. Food? How much has to be shipped in? Can Bali really feed that many? How about all the drink tha
Good for you fat_boy. I may not always agree with your posts (FWIW I am on the fence concerning AGW, but I feel strongly that we must change our energy usage habits else my 3-year old daughter is going to grow up in a world even more fucked up than the one we live in today) but this is one crusade of yours that has my backing.
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Thanks for the vote ofconfidence. Its good to know some people appreciate my onslaught on AGW.
Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception
The people who lambaste you are hardly the most respectable visitors to this forum. I'm sure there are a lot of us who find what you write very interesting. We're just not as vocal.
Cheers Tom Philosophy: The art of never getting beyond the concept of life.
Religion: Morality taking credit for the work of luck.
"The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane." - Marcus Aurelius -
fat_boy wrote:
Only kidding. Its a classic way to get rid of someone who constantly jumps on your posts.
You did insult MmmBop...:mad: OK, so MAYBE I am a silly, loser kid sometimes (often), but...can you blame me? You'd better not. ;P But you shoulda known it wouldn't get rid of me. Although I did feel oddly compelled to go 'beddie byes' last night. :suss: I did, in fact.
It may be a jewel of open-source, but Firefox is just a browser. It shows web pages. What the hell is wrong with us?!
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
OK, so MAYBE I am a silly, loser kid sometimes (often),
Why do you say that?
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
but...can you blame me?
If you were yes, but you probably arent so no.
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
But you shoulda known it wouldn't get rid of me.
Yes, you seem to have the persistence of fish sauce. ;)
Truth is the subjection of reality to an individuals perception