UN conference in Bali. [modified]
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So I just contaced John Hay, the UN FCC conference spokes person and asked him some questions: 1) 10,000 yes really, 10,000 people are going to attend the conference in Bali for 2 weeks. And thats not including the press, who no doubt will number at least 1,000. 2) He wasnt forthcoming regarding the Carbon Footprint of the conference, I expect it hasnt even beem calculated, but assume each person, probably flying business class (on your tax money), has a total weight of around around 100 kg, then thats 1,100,000 kgs of 'airfright' alone created by the confernce. Whats the carbon footprint of that lot for a 12 hour flight? So using Flight Emissions Calculator[^] one can calculate that for a flight from Denmark to Indonesia each person costs 2.5 tonnes of CO2. Thats 27,500 tonnes of CO2 just for the flights say. But theres more! Check out this seductively glossy production: climate change conference 2OO7[^] and particularly page 18. (Thats just after the 5* hotel list (alsoo on your tax money), the 'Optional Tours' section. Yes, you can spend 6 hours, 8 hours, 9 hours, or 4 days driving and flying around the wonderful islands of indonesia lapping up the cultural beauty and atmosphere (before it is all wiped out ny Global Warming that is). The general conditions make interesting reading: Inclusive in Tour Price: Tour and transfers as mentioned in the itinerary with private airconditioned vehicle. English speaking guide. Entrance fee, donation fee and luggage handling. Accommodation at Hotel. Exclusive: Airport taxes. Tipping, gratuities & other personal expenses. Notes: Additional night in Bali might be required, depending on the return flight to the country of origin that originally booked. Ah yes, 5 days swanning around in private airconditioned cars, flying first class, staying in 5 * hotels! So whats that lot going to cost extra? a few tonnes more each? Not to mention the electricity used. 11,000 laptops and phones running for 2 weeks? Thats a few more tonnes. Food? How much has to be shipped in? Can Bali really feed that many? How about all the drink tha
Priceless! My 5 should offset a couple of those unwarranted 1s.
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So I just contaced John Hay, the UN FCC conference spokes person and asked him some questions: 1) 10,000 yes really, 10,000 people are going to attend the conference in Bali for 2 weeks. And thats not including the press, who no doubt will number at least 1,000. 2) He wasnt forthcoming regarding the Carbon Footprint of the conference, I expect it hasnt even beem calculated, but assume each person, probably flying business class (on your tax money), has a total weight of around around 100 kg, then thats 1,100,000 kgs of 'airfright' alone created by the confernce. Whats the carbon footprint of that lot for a 12 hour flight? So using Flight Emissions Calculator[^] one can calculate that for a flight from Denmark to Indonesia each person costs 2.5 tonnes of CO2. Thats 27,500 tonnes of CO2 just for the flights say. But theres more! Check out this seductively glossy production: climate change conference 2OO7[^] and particularly page 18. (Thats just after the 5* hotel list (alsoo on your tax money), the 'Optional Tours' section. Yes, you can spend 6 hours, 8 hours, 9 hours, or 4 days driving and flying around the wonderful islands of indonesia lapping up the cultural beauty and atmosphere (before it is all wiped out ny Global Warming that is). The general conditions make interesting reading: Inclusive in Tour Price: Tour and transfers as mentioned in the itinerary with private airconditioned vehicle. English speaking guide. Entrance fee, donation fee and luggage handling. Accommodation at Hotel. Exclusive: Airport taxes. Tipping, gratuities & other personal expenses. Notes: Additional night in Bali might be required, depending on the return flight to the country of origin that originally booked. Ah yes, 5 days swanning around in private airconditioned cars, flying first class, staying in 5 * hotels! So whats that lot going to cost extra? a few tonnes more each? Not to mention the electricity used. 11,000 laptops and phones running for 2 weeks? Thats a few more tonnes. Food? How much has to be shipped in? Can Bali really feed that many? How about all the drink tha
What utter popycock! These experts are the servants of huminty and carry the future of the planet in their hands! They deserve a little R and R while working to save our future! YOUR future! Your CHILDRENS future! Honestly, some people really dont deserve to call themselves members of the human race!
God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change; the courage to change the things I can; and the wisdom to know the difference
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What utter popycock! These experts are the servants of huminty and carry the future of the planet in their hands! They deserve a little R and R while working to save our future! YOUR future! Your CHILDRENS future! Honestly, some people really dont deserve to call themselves members of the human race!
God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change; the courage to change the things I can; and the wisdom to know the difference
It's hypocrisy. And looks absolutely ridiculous to those of us who don't believe it's the dire situation that proponents of AGW like to claim. Especially when they hang all the blame on one tiny variable of a vastly complex system that nobody completely understands.
d king wrote:
Honestly, some people really dont deserve to call themselves members of the human race!
Anybody with the right DNA can rightfully claim to be part of the human race.
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What utter popycock! These experts are the servants of huminty and carry the future of the planet in their hands! They deserve a little R and R while working to save our future! YOUR future! Your CHILDRENS future! Honestly, some people really dont deserve to call themselves members of the human race!
God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change; the courage to change the things I can; and the wisdom to know the difference
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fat_boy wrote:
Or were untill you got the sack.
I quit my last job. I don't get paid to engineer my own software because its a hobby. Now I am a professional bum who can't seem to get away from the computer to save my life. Thank God I can apply for almost any job online.
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CataclysmicQuantums wrote:
Thank God I can apply for almost any job online.
You have to actually apply for jobs? They're not beating down your door to get you? :omg:
Compassionate Conservatism is an Oxymoron. Bush is just a Moron.
Tim Craig wrote:
They're not beating down your door to get you?
I sure hope not.
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It's hypocrisy. And looks absolutely ridiculous to those of us who don't believe it's the dire situation that proponents of AGW like to claim. Especially when they hang all the blame on one tiny variable of a vastly complex system that nobody completely understands.
d king wrote:
Honestly, some people really dont deserve to call themselves members of the human race!
Anybody with the right DNA can rightfully claim to be part of the human race.
Try code model generation tools at BoneSoft.com.
BoneSoft wrote:
Especially when they hang all the blame on one tiny variable of a vastly complex system that nobody completely understands.
Yet you're so confidedent you understand it so well, you can just dismiss it all.
Compassionate Conservatism is an Oxymoron. Bush is just a Moron.
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BoneSoft wrote:
Especially when they hang all the blame on one tiny variable of a vastly complex system that nobody completely understands.
Yet you're so confidedent you understand it so well, you can just dismiss it all.
Compassionate Conservatism is an Oxymoron. Bush is just a Moron.
Tim Craig wrote:
Yet you're so confidedent
Nope
Tim Craig wrote:
you understand it so well
Never said that either... In fact, I said "that nobody completely understands." You should have been aware of that since you quoted it.
Tim Craig wrote:
you can just dismiss it all
Have you ever read my posts on the subject? I understand it much more that the average schmoe that only gets their worldly information from the occasional biased news report and from commercials. I heard a commercial on the radio suggesting ways to reduce ozone creating chemicals. :wtf: You mean Oxygen?!? I'm starting more and more to believe that that's where Gore gets his info too though, and that got him a Nobel Peace Prize. Presumably the same way AK47s and bombs earned Arafat one. I don't dismiss it all, but frankly, I don't feel like rehashing the last 2 weeks of posts just for your benefit. So feel free to keep on believing you have a clue what I do or do not understand or believe.
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Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
Ah, my quarry - I have found you.
Looks like someone has a crush.
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Nice one: keep it up: wish I had the time to do this as well. Might I susggest, however, that you adopt a new alias as I doubt that any GWankers even bother to read your posts any more: they just mark them as 1.
digital man wrote:
Might I susggest, however, that you adopt a new alias as I doubt that any GWankers even bother to read your posts any more: they just mark them as 1.
But they wouldn't read *anything* rational on the issue, no matter what user-name is used.
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CataclysmicQuantums wrote:
Looks like someone has a crush.
My favorite pet troll (the one I have never knowingly responded to in all the years he's been infatuated with me), seems to have lost interest in CP.
:confused: Who are you talking about?
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What utter popycock! These experts are the servants of huminty and carry the future of the planet in their hands! They deserve a little R and R while working to save our future! YOUR future! Your CHILDRENS future! Honestly, some people really dont deserve to call themselves members of the human race!
God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change; the courage to change the things I can; and the wisdom to know the difference
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:confused: Who are you talking about?
46 75 63 6B 20 79 6F 75 20 4B 79 6C 65 20 45 64 77 61 72 64 73 20 66 72 6F 6D 20 41 72 6B 61 6E 73 61 73 21 20 46 75 63 6B 20 79 6F 75 20 74 6F 20 68 65 6C 6C This is a coded message, if you decode it and you are offended, it is your own f****ing fault.
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What utter popycock! These experts are the servants of huminty and carry the future of the planet in their hands! They deserve a little R and R while working to save our future! YOUR future! Your CHILDRENS future! Honestly, some people really dont deserve to call themselves members of the human race!
God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change; the courage to change the things I can; and the wisdom to know the difference
why should we do as they say when they're not prepared to do it themselves? Bryce
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