Programming language
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Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
Do you still actively code using them?
The 8051 stuff I pretty much just watch nowadays, which my client still uses for some older firmware. He's switching to embedded C for all his new stuff. The 8086, no, though I found it very useful to know when debugging C/C++ apps. Sometimes, you just gotta see what's going on in the assembly level. 6502? Nope. Though I could probably write it in my sleep.
Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
If you don't how knowledgeable do you consider yourself in them, keeping in mind the amount of time its been since you last used them?
I'd consider myself still quite knowledgeable. I know I could "sharpen the tool", as it were, within a day or two. The fundamental thing is not that I know the particular syntax or the tool but I still retain the best practices for writing in those languages.
Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
I used to be fluent in C/C++ but since I left them about 2 years ago and to my dismay I discovered I'm no longer capable of programming something decent (much less fluent ) I no longer consider it a language I "know".
Really? I think most of the "programming" part of C++ is in the design of the object model, which is pretty universal in OOP's. As to C, well, pure C drives me nuts. No containment of methods, all the variables have to be defined at the beginning of the method, and so forth. Ugh. Marc
Marc Clifton wrote:
I think most of the "programming" part of C++ is in the design of the object model, which is pretty universal in OOP's.
I don't think I agree with this. A good C# or Java program looks much different than a good C++ program. The choice of the language strongly affects the design (well, except at a very high level, like component diagrams).
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Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
Do you still actively code using them?
The 8051 stuff I pretty much just watch nowadays, which my client still uses for some older firmware. He's switching to embedded C for all his new stuff. The 8086, no, though I found it very useful to know when debugging C/C++ apps. Sometimes, you just gotta see what's going on in the assembly level. 6502? Nope. Though I could probably write it in my sleep.
Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
If you don't how knowledgeable do you consider yourself in them, keeping in mind the amount of time its been since you last used them?
I'd consider myself still quite knowledgeable. I know I could "sharpen the tool", as it were, within a day or two. The fundamental thing is not that I know the particular syntax or the tool but I still retain the best practices for writing in those languages.
Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
I used to be fluent in C/C++ but since I left them about 2 years ago and to my dismay I discovered I'm no longer capable of programming something decent (much less fluent ) I no longer consider it a language I "know".
Really? I think most of the "programming" part of C++ is in the design of the object model, which is pretty universal in OOP's. As to C, well, pure C drives me nuts. No containment of methods, all the variables have to be defined at the beginning of the method, and so forth. Ugh. Marc
Marc Clifton wrote:
As to C, well, pure C drives me nuts.
I found after going to C++ from C I never ever wanted to go back to C. Even procedural C++ was better.
Kevin
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Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
Do you still actively code using them?
The 8051 stuff I pretty much just watch nowadays, which my client still uses for some older firmware. He's switching to embedded C for all his new stuff. The 8086, no, though I found it very useful to know when debugging C/C++ apps. Sometimes, you just gotta see what's going on in the assembly level. 6502? Nope. Though I could probably write it in my sleep.
Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
If you don't how knowledgeable do you consider yourself in them, keeping in mind the amount of time its been since you last used them?
I'd consider myself still quite knowledgeable. I know I could "sharpen the tool", as it were, within a day or two. The fundamental thing is not that I know the particular syntax or the tool but I still retain the best practices for writing in those languages.
Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
I used to be fluent in C/C++ but since I left them about 2 years ago and to my dismay I discovered I'm no longer capable of programming something decent (much less fluent ) I no longer consider it a language I "know".
Really? I think most of the "programming" part of C++ is in the design of the object model, which is pretty universal in OOP's. As to C, well, pure C drives me nuts. No containment of methods, all the variables have to be defined at the beginning of the method, and so forth. Ugh. Marc
Marc Clifton wrote:
Really? I think most of the "programming" part of C++ is in the design of the object model, which is pretty universal in OOP's. As to C, well, pure C drives me nuts. No containment of methods, all the variables have to be defined at the beginning of the method, and so forth. Ugh.
Yes, to a certain point I agree with you. But there is that missing whatchamacallit when you've been away from it for some time. The design methods for the most part can be carried over to other OO languages such as Java and C#.
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"
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Hi everyone How many programming language you know that you can work with them? If someone only knows c++ is enough or no?
But I'm a geek. VB4, VB6, VB.NET, C, C++, Java, C#, Javascript, HTML, XHTML, Perl, Php, SQL, T-SQL, PL/SQL, Lisp, Ada, Pascal, mIRC Script, assembly. Sure many will say mark-up languages don't count and some will say scripting languages don't count and others will say assembly is the only true language.
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Hi everyone How many programming language you know that you can work with them? If someone only knows c++ is enough or no?
messages wrote:
How many programming language you know that you can work with them?
I know at least 15+ different programming languages and have worked with them all.
messages wrote:
If someone only knows c++ is enough or no?
Depends, but it wouldn't hurt to be skilled in other languages, as well.
"Any sort of work in VB6 is bound to provide several WTF moments." - Christian Graus
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But I'm a geek. VB4, VB6, VB.NET, C, C++, Java, C#, Javascript, HTML, XHTML, Perl, Php, SQL, T-SQL, PL/SQL, Lisp, Ada, Pascal, mIRC Script, assembly. Sure many will say mark-up languages don't count and some will say scripting languages don't count and others will say assembly is the only true language.
Need a C# Consultant? I'm available.
Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest HemingwayVB* and markup languages cannot be considered as programming languages ;P finally, C/C++ seem to be the only :cool:
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Hi everyone How many programming language you know that you can work with them? If someone only knows c++ is enough or no?
Never learned much assembly (Macro-11), Fortran, or COBOL. Haven't done BASIC or Pascal since college. Only dabbled in C++ and D. C and C# are the only languages I've been paid to use and my C is getting rusty. Knowing a bunch of languages doesn't work for me.
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VB* and markup languages cannot be considered as programming languages ;P finally, C/C++ seem to be the only :cool:
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Next thing you are going to tell me is that I am not bilingual because I know pig latin.
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But I'm a geek. VB4, VB6, VB.NET, C, C++, Java, C#, Javascript, HTML, XHTML, Perl, Php, SQL, T-SQL, PL/SQL, Lisp, Ada, Pascal, mIRC Script, assembly. Sure many will say mark-up languages don't count and some will say scripting languages don't count and others will say assembly is the only true language.
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Well when you want to count languages there is really only one way to do it. Personally, I think the more languages you know the easier it is to learn new ones.
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Well when you want to count languages there is really only one way to do it. Personally, I think the more languages you know the easier it is to learn new ones.
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Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest HemingwayEnnis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
I think the more languages you know the easier it is to learn new ones.
I was not saying that it is not that way, I was just saying that people that think they know, like fresh students, tend to put all the languages they heard about as if they really knew them, as you did*, for example, javascript, html, xhtml, sql, t-SQl, PL/SQL, mIrc Scripts. And I leave the VB family alone :) *Not saying you are a fresh student btw :p
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:
I think the more languages you know the easier it is to learn new ones.
I was not saying that it is not that way, I was just saying that people that think they know, like fresh students, tend to put all the languages they heard about as if they really knew them, as you did*, for example, javascript, html, xhtml, sql, t-SQl, PL/SQL, mIrc Scripts. And I leave the VB family alone :) *Not saying you are a fresh student btw :p
Originally I was not going to post the languages but I predicted just putting a number like 20+ would get the invariable, "yeah well name them" response.
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Originally I was not going to post the languages but I predicted just putting a number like 20+ would get the invariable, "yeah well name them" response.
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_Zorro_ wrote:
Looks like my first resume where I'd put anything that looked like a language
Do you know MaxScript or MAYA script?;P
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messages wrote:
How many programming language you know that you can work with them?
I know at least 15+ different programming languages and have worked with them all.
messages wrote:
If someone only knows c++ is enough or no?
Depends, but it wouldn't hurt to be skilled in other languages, as well.
"Any sort of work in VB6 is bound to provide several WTF moments." - Christian Graus
So you must have a good work can you tell us what languages if its secret.;)
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_Zorro_ wrote:
Looks like my first resume where I'd put anything that looked like a language
Do you know MaxScript or MAYA script?;P
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So you must have a good work can you tell us what languages if its secret.;)
Hamid. wrote:
what languages if its secret
Yep. It is.
"Any sort of work in VB6 is bound to provide several WTF moments." - Christian Graus
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Hamid. wrote:
Do you know MaxScript or MAYA script? ;P
Not exactly that, but you made me remember I had put 3ds Max modelling, Vray and Brazil knowledge in my first cv :doh: I just forgot to put I know how to cook... :rolleyes:
Sometimes I think 3DMAx is easier than C++ of course I didnt write max code.
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Sometimes I think 3DMAx is easier than C++ of course I didnt write max code.
You mean to learn? Depends on what you do, modelling and rendering are quite easy, but ultra realistinc animations are not that easy :) Of course a huge distributed application isn't always easy to implement :) By Max code you mean scripts or the 3dsMax code? I think you have to be a scientist first and then a developper to do that kind of apps.
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Basic VB 6502 Z80 8080 8086 8051 Fortran Pascal C C++ C# You will notice a complete lack of functional or scripting (like Python) languages. An interesting gap. And yes, I've included assembly languages as "programming languages". Sue me. Marc
Marc Clifton wrote:
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Marc Clifton wrote:
Sue me.
I will!! ;P
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