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  • J JoeSox

    A user creates a playlist with favorite music player. Copy playlist to DVD in mp3 format *and keep the playlist's order* :~ I searched for Winamp plugins and experimented with other music players but this is either something I am missing or this just isn't supported??

    Later, JoeSox CPMCv1.0 ↔ humanaiproject.org ↔ Last.fm ↔ pswrdgen

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    Lost User
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    What order?

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    • J JoeSox

      A user creates a playlist with favorite music player. Copy playlist to DVD in mp3 format *and keep the playlist's order* :~ I searched for Winamp plugins and experimented with other music players but this is either something I am missing or this just isn't supported??

      Later, JoeSox CPMCv1.0 ↔ humanaiproject.org ↔ Last.fm ↔ pswrdgen

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      This doesn't even makes any sense. Files have properties (like name, size, last modified date, etc). If you want to files to appear in an order you must specify the property you want to order by. In your case, music, I usually name the tracks starting with the track number (2 digits): 01 - Name 1 02 - Name 2 03 - Name 3 ... 12 - Name 12 Even here is a trick, the number must have 2 digits because if not the tracks would appear sorted as: 1 - Name 1 12 - Name 12 2 - Name 2 3 - Name 3 ... Got it?

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      • J JoeSox

        A user creates a playlist with favorite music player. Copy playlist to DVD in mp3 format *and keep the playlist's order* :~ I searched for Winamp plugins and experimented with other music players but this is either something I am missing or this just isn't supported??

        Later, JoeSox CPMCv1.0 ↔ humanaiproject.org ↔ Last.fm ↔ pswrdgen

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        gedehuiyi
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        there is not a protocol between different music players about how to read a favorites list

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        • J JoeSox

          A user creates a playlist with favorite music player. Copy playlist to DVD in mp3 format *and keep the playlist's order* :~ I searched for Winamp plugins and experimented with other music players but this is either something I am missing or this just isn't supported??

          Later, JoeSox CPMCv1.0 ↔ humanaiproject.org ↔ Last.fm ↔ pswrdgen

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          Mike Poz
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          Joe, The files themselves may get written to the disc in a scrambled order, but the file system returns them in alphabetical order. You can't change this but you can work around it. The easiest way I know of doing this is to save the playlist as an M3U, then do a global search and replace, making the path virtual. Example: If all your files on the DVD are going to be following the X:\Music\Artist\Album scheme and the playlist is going to be in the root of the CD drive, simply replace the X: with a period. Then burn that M3U to the DVD along with the songs. Once you've done that, just use the M3U to play the music.

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          • J JoeSox

            A user creates a playlist with favorite music player. Copy playlist to DVD in mp3 format *and keep the playlist's order* :~ I searched for Winamp plugins and experimented with other music players but this is either something I am missing or this just isn't supported??

            Later, JoeSox CPMCv1.0 ↔ humanaiproject.org ↔ Last.fm ↔ pswrdgen

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            AspDotNetDvlpr
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            Heh, Joe Sox from INTP list?

            Happy programming!

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            • A AlexCode

              This doesn't even makes any sense. Files have properties (like name, size, last modified date, etc). If you want to files to appear in an order you must specify the property you want to order by. In your case, music, I usually name the tracks starting with the track number (2 digits): 01 - Name 1 02 - Name 2 03 - Name 3 ... 12 - Name 12 Even here is a trick, the number must have 2 digits because if not the tracks would appear sorted as: 1 - Name 1 12 - Name 12 2 - Name 2 3 - Name 3 ... Got it?

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              JoeSox
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              AlexCode wrote:

              This doesn't even makes any sense.

              You are not following.

              AlexCode wrote:

              If you want to files to appear in an order you must specify the property you want to order by.

              The user creates the playlist in order. I don't know what property each player uses and I don't care since I am not going to create any plugins. I just want something already create so I can be a user.

              AlexCode wrote:

              Even here is a trick, the number must have 2 digits because if not the tracks would appear sorted as:

              I don't see this as a solution, to somehow rename all of my 2000 albumns and their track numbers.

              AlexCode wrote:

              Got it?

              I don't think you followed what I was saying. I don't want to do a windows copy either.

              Later, JoeSox CPMCv1.0 ↔ humanaiproject.org ↔ Last.fm ↔ pswrdgen

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                Joe, The files themselves may get written to the disc in a scrambled order, but the file system returns them in alphabetical order. You can't change this but you can work around it. The easiest way I know of doing this is to save the playlist as an M3U, then do a global search and replace, making the path virtual. Example: If all your files on the DVD are going to be following the X:\Music\Artist\Album scheme and the playlist is going to be in the root of the CD drive, simply replace the X: with a period. Then burn that M3U to the DVD along with the songs. Once you've done that, just use the M3U to play the music.

                Mike Poz

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                JoeSox
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                Mike Poz wrote:

                Then burn that M3U to the DVD along with the songs.

                What music players burn to *DVDs* ?

                Later, JoeSox CPMCv1.0 ↔ humanaiproject.org ↔ Last.fm ↔ pswrdgen

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                • J JoeSox

                  AlexCode wrote:

                  This doesn't even makes any sense.

                  You are not following.

                  AlexCode wrote:

                  If you want to files to appear in an order you must specify the property you want to order by.

                  The user creates the playlist in order. I don't know what property each player uses and I don't care since I am not going to create any plugins. I just want something already create so I can be a user.

                  AlexCode wrote:

                  Even here is a trick, the number must have 2 digits because if not the tracks would appear sorted as:

                  I don't see this as a solution, to somehow rename all of my 2000 albumns and their track numbers.

                  AlexCode wrote:

                  Got it?

                  I don't think you followed what I was saying. I don't want to do a windows copy either.

                  Later, JoeSox CPMCv1.0 ↔ humanaiproject.org ↔ Last.fm ↔ pswrdgen

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                  If some player lets you customize the order is because it holds an inner list that manages that order.

                  JoeSox wrote:

                  The user creates the playlist in order.

                  Where? For sure not in windows explorer...

                  JoeSox wrote:

                  rename all of my 2000 albumns and their track numbers

                  If you take a look at windows media player that's exactly what it does. What it provides is a set of ways of making this more easy, like you can set a the album or artist to a group of tracks. I don't know what else to say to you... if you save the files into a CD what manages the list that appears on the windows explorer is in fact Windows Explorer... no trick here. You can create a *.m3u file that is some sort of playlist with the paths of the files in the order you want. WinAmp and MediaPlayer understand this format. If this *.m3u file is in the same dir of the music files you don't need to specify the full path. This is a simple text file with only the following in it: 01-Track1.mp3 02-Track2.mp3 03-Track5.mp3 04-Track3.mp3 05-Track7.mp3 06-Track4.mp3 07-Track11.mp3 08-Track12.mp3 09-Track13.mp3 10-Track14.mp3 being 01-Track1.mp3 the name of the file. if you doubleclick on this m3u file MP will open by default... no configuration needed.

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                  • J JoeSox

                    Mike Poz wrote:

                    Then burn that M3U to the DVD along with the songs.

                    What music players burn to *DVDs* ?

                    Later, JoeSox CPMCv1.0 ↔ humanaiproject.org ↔ Last.fm ↔ pswrdgen

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                    If the OS supports DVD burning natively (Vista for example) Windows Media Player does. It also has an option to burn the on-disc playlist as an M3U rather than a WPL. Can't speak for any other music player software. Of course, if you're using Roxio/Sonic, or Nero, you can create the disc image manually, complete with the on-disc playlist that you crafted before you did the media burn.

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                      If the OS supports DVD burning natively (Vista for example) Windows Media Player does. It also has an option to burn the on-disc playlist as an M3U rather than a WPL. Can't speak for any other music player software. Of course, if you're using Roxio/Sonic, or Nero, you can create the disc image manually, complete with the on-disc playlist that you crafted before you did the media burn.

                      Mike Poz

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                      Mike Poz wrote:

                      If the OS supports DVD burning natively (Vista for example) Windows Media Player does. It also has an option to burn the on-disc playlist as an M3U rather than a WPL.

                      Yeah, this is for Vista only. Doesn't work for WindowsXP

                      Later, JoeSox CPMCv1.0 ↔ humanaiproject.org ↔ Last.fm ↔ pswrdgen

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