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  • P Paul Horstink

    I'm looking to finally update my personal web-site, and I also want my kids to to create their on 'sub-webs'. My hosting package is based on Windows/IIS with FP extensions. Any suggestions for a good/easy web-editor the kids can also master?

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    GuyThiebaut
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    Good question - in some ways it depends on what you mean by good/easy. I say this because most easy packages will add loads of extra markup which makes it hard to maintain the site outside of the package it was designed in. However you probably know this and at the risk of being shouted down - Frontpage is always an option (it will however completely rewrite beautifully hand(notepad) written html). Good luck finding a decent package and let us know which one you have chosen. Personally I have always used notepad :sigh: so that I can have total control.

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      How young are your kids? Most of the designers I use/know of are more developer or web designer [person] based and assume some sort of working knowledge of what comprises HTML/XHTML pages. So far, MS Expression is by far the best one I've used from a D&D designer perspective. Most of the time I personally code it by hand. Have you considered changing to DotNetNuke? Its next to nothing, mostly drag and drop stuff so even non-professionals can use it and you can create as many sub webs as you want. -- modified at 5:21 Sunday 25th November, 2007 Added DNN comment

      "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"

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      Paul Horstink
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      The kids are 12 & 10. Pretty computer literate (though no wiz-kids...) I played with Expression once or twice, but price is an issue, specially if we all would want to have a licensed copy on our own PCs. However, I haven't looked at DNN yet, but will do. Thanks.

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      • M Michael Sync

        You want your kids to create their site under your sub-domain, right? What about using wordpress for personal website? I think it's very easy for everyone to write anything they like in your blog..

        Thanks and Regards, Michael Sync ( Blog: http://michaelsync.net) "Please vote to let me (and others) know if this answer helped you or not. A 5 vote tells people that your question has been answered successfully and that I've pitched it at just the right level. Thanks."

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        Paul Horstink
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        I'll have a look at it. Thanks!

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          Good question - in some ways it depends on what you mean by good/easy. I say this because most easy packages will add loads of extra markup which makes it hard to maintain the site outside of the package it was designed in. However you probably know this and at the risk of being shouted down - Frontpage is always an option (it will however completely rewrite beautifully hand(notepad) written html). Good luck finding a decent package and let us know which one you have chosen. Personally I have always used notepad :sigh: so that I can have total control.

          You always pass failure on the way to success.
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          Paul Horstink
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          I've used FP in the past, but it's not for sale anymore. Expression would be the curent choice (with cleaner code) but as I've said above, licensing for 3 PCs is a bit expensive. Anyway, I've stopped using notepad/html eyars ago. I'm lazy, and like the convenience of the packages, and most of the time I can still edit the generated code for some fine-tuning. Same way I use .NET to drag-and-drop a datagrid, instead of manually writting code to generate markup for a table with the recods from some DB :|

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          • P Paul Horstink

            I've used FP in the past, but it's not for sale anymore. Expression would be the curent choice (with cleaner code) but as I've said above, licensing for 3 PCs is a bit expensive. Anyway, I've stopped using notepad/html eyars ago. I'm lazy, and like the convenience of the packages, and most of the time I can still edit the generated code for some fine-tuning. Same way I use .NET to drag-and-drop a datagrid, instead of manually writting code to generate markup for a table with the recods from some DB :|

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            GuyThiebaut
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            Paul Horstink wrote:

            Anyway, I've stopped using notepad/html eyars ago. I'm lazy, and like the convenience of the packages, and most of the time I can still edit the generated code for some fine-tuning. Same way I use .NET to drag-and-drop a datagrid, instead of manually writting code to generate markup for a table with the recods from some DB

            That's a good analogy - sounds like I should take a page out of your book and stop using notepad.

            You always pass failure on the way to success.
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            • P Paul Horstink

              I'll have a look at it. Thanks!

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              Michael Sync
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              Your welcome! As wordpress is written in PHP, you need to have the FastCGI extension in your IIS.

              Thanks and Regards, Michael Sync ( Blog: http://michaelsync.net) "Please vote to let me (and others) know if this answer helped you or not. A 5 vote tells people that your question has been answered successfully and that I've pitched it at just the right level. Thanks."

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                Your welcome! As wordpress is written in PHP, you need to have the FastCGI extension in your IIS.

                Thanks and Regards, Michael Sync ( Blog: http://michaelsync.net) "Please vote to let me (and others) know if this answer helped you or not. A 5 vote tells people that your question has been answered successfully and that I've pitched it at just the right level. Thanks."

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                Paul Horstink
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                okay, don't know if my host provides that or not. We'll see..

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                • P Paul Horstink

                  I'm looking to finally update my personal web-site, and I also want my kids to to create their on 'sub-webs'. My hosting package is based on Windows/IIS with FP extensions. Any suggestions for a good/easy web-editor the kids can also master?

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                  martin_hughes
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                  I've been using Expression Web since beta. Not sure how kid friendly it is (although at 10 and 12, I'm fairly sure I'd have been able to pick it up quite easily).

                  "On one of my cards it said I had to find temperatures lower than -8. The numbers I uncovered were -6 and -7 so I thought I had won, and so did the woman in the shop. But when she scanned the card the machine said I hadn't. "I phoned Camelot and they fobbed me off with some story that -6 is higher - not lower - than -8 but I'm not having it." -Tina Farrell, a 23 year old thicky from Levenshulme, Manchester.

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                  • P Paul Horstink

                    I'm looking to finally update my personal web-site, and I also want my kids to to create their on 'sub-webs'. My hosting package is based on Windows/IIS with FP extensions. Any suggestions for a good/easy web-editor the kids can also master?

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                    Lost User
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                    CoffeeCup Html editor or dreamweaver

                    _________________________ "When the superior man refrains from acting, his force is felt for a thousand li." Sun Tzu

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                    • P Paul Horstink

                      I'm looking to finally update my personal web-site, and I also want my kids to to create their on 'sub-webs'. My hosting package is based on Windows/IIS with FP extensions. Any suggestions for a good/easy web-editor the kids can also master?

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                      Marc Clifton
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                      Paul Horstink wrote:

                      Any suggestions for a good/easy web-editor the kids can also master?

                      I'd recommend DotNetNuke. Marc

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                      • C CataclysmicQuantum

                        Notepad.

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                        code frog 0
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                        Sorry but that's about the stupidest suggestion I have ever seen. I don't understand why people think this is *cool*. If anything it really discredits you. Don't mean to go off on you, don't even know you but put a little more thought and energy into your answers. Notepad is about the lamest response. If you want to use an ASCII text editor there are a hell of a lot of better options out there. Lemme guess your search engine of preference is your phone book too right? Why even use a PC just grab a pencil and paper.

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                          Sorry but that's about the stupidest suggestion I have ever seen. I don't understand why people think this is *cool*. If anything it really discredits you. Don't mean to go off on you, don't even know you but put a little more thought and energy into your answers. Notepad is about the lamest response. If you want to use an ASCII text editor there are a hell of a lot of better options out there. Lemme guess your search engine of preference is your phone book too right? Why even use a PC just grab a pencil and paper.

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                          Demon Possessed
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                          Quote: "If anything it really discredits you." I don't think he can discredit himself much more. Have you read his other posts?

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                            CoffeeCup Html editor or dreamweaver

                            _________________________ "When the superior man refrains from acting, his force is felt for a thousand li." Sun Tzu

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                            Paul Conrad
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                            mejax wrote:

                            CoffeeCup Html

                            I was about to suggest CoffeeCup HTML Editor. I've been using it for years and it has fit the bill for my purposes.

                            "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                            • M Marc Clifton

                              Paul Horstink wrote:

                              Any suggestions for a good/easy web-editor the kids can also master?

                              I'd recommend DotNetNuke. Marc

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                              Paul Conrad
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                              What about your blog engine you have for an article here? It is a simple one and good :-D

                              "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                              • P Paul Conrad

                                What about your blog engine you have for an article here? It is a simple one and good :-D

                                "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                                Marc Clifton
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                                Paul Conrad wrote:

                                What about your blog engine you have for an article here? It is a simple one and good

                                Well, it's a bit too raw, IMO. Now, if it used CSS and had a decent web-based editor, yeah, I'd recommend it. :) Marc

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                                • P Paul Horstink

                                  I'm looking to finally update my personal web-site, and I also want my kids to to create their on 'sub-webs'. My hosting package is based on Windows/IIS with FP extensions. Any suggestions for a good/easy web-editor the kids can also master?

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                                  Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                                  FckEditor (on the web) Html-Kit (http://www.chami.com/html-kit/[^])

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                                  • C CataclysmicQuantum

                                    Notepad.

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                                    RichardGrimmer
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                                    CataclysmicQuantums wrote:

                                    Notepad.

                                    You tool....

                                    "Knock me down, I'll get straight back up again, I'll come back stronger than a powered up pacman" (Lilly Allen / Kaiser Chiefs)

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                                      CataclysmicQuantums wrote:

                                      Notepad.

                                      You tool....

                                      "Knock me down, I'll get straight back up again, I'll come back stronger than a powered up pacman" (Lilly Allen / Kaiser Chiefs)

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                                      CataclysmicQuantum
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                                      RichardGrimmer wrote:

                                      You tool....

                                      More appropriately "You jackhammer with a soft tip..." The Henize Jackhammer, It can't bust concrete but it can bust cherries.

                                      Word, write letters and sh*t yo.

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