Win XP
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First, 'Windows XP' is a dumb name :| -- it's too 'cute' to be taken seriously. What will the next version be called? :confused: Anyway, that's irrelevant, what really concerns me is something I was reading on MSDN. Here is an excerpt:
To make sure that your application uses the new visual styles in Windows XP, you
need to make sure to link to ComCtl32 and use a manifest to specify the dependency
on ComCtl32 version 6. If you have any owner-drawn controls, start asking the
uxtheme.dll to draw them, rather than drawing them yourself. You'll need to do
this if you want them to feel like the rest of the UI.Here is the code that draws a theme-aware button:
rtButton.top = 100; rtButton.left = 10; rtButton.bottom = 130; rtButton.right = 200; hTheme = OpenThemeData(hWnd, L"Button"); DrawThemeBackground(hTheme, hdc, BP\_PUSHBUTTON, PBS\_NORMAL, &rtButton, NULL); DrawThemeText(hTheme, hdc, BP\_PUSHBUTTON, PBS\_NORMAL, wzTMB, wcslen(wzTMB), DT\_CENTER | DT\_VCENTER | DT\_WORD\_ELLIPSIS | DT\_SINGLELINE, 0, &rtButton);I'm wondering how this will affect pre-XP apps on XP. Daniel
Pre-XP apps just wont be themed. They'll have "standard" looking buttons.
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You're right. 'Windows XP' is a dumb name. And when you think of it, 'Windows NT' is also a dumb name.
MS has come with even stranger names in the past. What about Windows CE? Even in Redmond they don't know what it means: Knowledge base: Q166915 -- Alex Marbus
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MS has come with even stranger names in the past. What about Windows CE? Even in Redmond they don't know what it means: Knowledge base: Q166915 -- Alex Marbus
>MS has come with even stranger names in the past. What about Windows CE? >Even in Redmond they don't know what it means: Knowledge base: Q166915 ROTFL In the future: MS:"Our new OS is called "Windows IDN"" User:":confused: what's the meaning of IDN?" MS:"Hmmm - sorry, I Don't know" Max
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MS has come with even stranger names in the past. What about Windows CE? Even in Redmond they don't know what it means: Knowledge base: Q166915 -- Alex Marbus
I thought CE was a particularly bad name with Windows habitually being shortened to Win by users. An operating system called Wince doesn't inspire confidence :)
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>MS has come with even stranger names in the past. What about Windows CE? >Even in Redmond they don't know what it means: Knowledge base: Q166915 ROTFL In the future: MS:"Our new OS is called "Windows IDN"" User:":confused: what's the meaning of IDN?" MS:"Hmmm - sorry, I Don't know" Max
LOL Actually, we're laughing about this, while we should be crying. Why aren't they a little bit more creative and think of some better names? Why don't they ask the community to think of a name? Why don't they have a poll on their website: "What would you like the new Windows version to be called" o Windows xxx o Windows yyy o Don't care Winner with 90%: Don't care. --- BREAKING NEWS: Microsoft has announced the release date of their new product "Windows Don't care" .. -- Alex Marbus
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LOL Actually, we're laughing about this, while we should be crying. Why aren't they a little bit more creative and think of some better names? Why don't they ask the community to think of a name? Why don't they have a poll on their website: "What would you like the new Windows version to be called" o Windows xxx o Windows yyy o Don't care Winner with 90%: Don't care. --- BREAKING NEWS: Microsoft has announced the release date of their new product "Windows Don't care" .. -- Alex Marbus
How about "Windows MA" for "Meaningless Acronym"? :-D
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LOL Actually, we're laughing about this, while we should be crying. Why aren't they a little bit more creative and think of some better names? Why don't they ask the community to think of a name? Why don't they have a poll on their website: "What would you like the new Windows version to be called" o Windows xxx o Windows yyy o Don't care Winner with 90%: Don't care. --- BREAKING NEWS: Microsoft has announced the release date of their new product "Windows Don't care" .. -- Alex Marbus
:rose: (it seems Chris is in love ;) )
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I thought CE was a particularly bad name with Windows habitually being shortened to Win by users. An operating system called Wince doesn't inspire confidence :)
Wince doesn't inspire confidence LOL! That's exactly what I was calling it when I first started porting apps to CE 2.0. cheers, Chris Maunder
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:rose: (it seems Chris is in love ;) )
It is much better than postfixing the name windows with a release year. At first I was a little non-plussed at the XP name, mainly due to the "eXPerience" moniker associated with it. A little too cheesy for me. Still - at least this time they have provided us with a meaning. NT is meant to be "New Technology" (so I thought, but there seems to be disagreement) and CE "compact edition" (or whatever). It is about time for a freshened logo, with a new 2 letter suffix for the Windows name, and there are a ton of gen X developers out there so why no whack an X in the name (even though everyone else has been there, done that 5 years ago) BTW: cool new emoticon -> (it seems Chris is in love ) Ha! My mailbox was suspiciously empty of Valentines cards this year. :( cheers, Chris Maunder
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It is much better than postfixing the name windows with a release year. At first I was a little non-plussed at the XP name, mainly due to the "eXPerience" moniker associated with it. A little too cheesy for me. Still - at least this time they have provided us with a meaning. NT is meant to be "New Technology" (so I thought, but there seems to be disagreement) and CE "compact edition" (or whatever). It is about time for a freshened logo, with a new 2 letter suffix for the Windows name, and there are a ton of gen X developers out there so why no whack an X in the name (even though everyone else has been there, done that 5 years ago) BTW: cool new emoticon -> (it seems Chris is in love ) Ha! My mailbox was suspiciously empty of Valentines cards this year. :( cheers, Chris Maunder
NT is meant to be "New Technology" (so I thought, but there seems to be disagreement. That's what I always heard, as well. I was at a job interview a couple of weeks ago, and I was chatting with the fellow interviewing me, and he had a different take on the name. He said MS hired one of the VMS creators to work on the first NT version. They thought of it as the "next version" of VMS, and if you add one to each letter in the acronym, you get WNT, or Windows NT. *shrug* Probably just another urban legend, but I thought it was funny. Now, if MS (or any company) wanted to be really clever, they'd package their 2001 releases in a plain black obelisk-shaped box that plays "Also Sprach Zarasthusthra" when picked up. :-D --Mike-- http://home.inreach.com/mdunn/ This must be Thursday. I never could get the hang of Thursdays...
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You're right. 'Windows XP' is a dumb name. And when you think of it, 'Windows NT' is also a dumb name.
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Pre-XP apps just wont be themed. They'll have "standard" looking buttons.
This is actually what I was interested in. So until all of your apps are re-written :confused: for XP they will have the old (current) look? Even if it's just the owner-draw ones -- what about menus? Aren't ALL of them owner-draw to include icons? That will be ... interesting... :eek: Here is another interesting thing: (from here)
At first glance, the potential for multiple Windows XP styles may look like
the skin functionality in such applications as Window Media Player, but
there are differences. Themes change the visual style of the operating
system, but still provide a consistent UI with earlier versions of Windows.
This is important since themes are applied system-wide. The changes
applicable to an application skin, such as removal of buttons, are not
appropriate at the operating system level. The theme file formats are not
public; Microsoft retains the design control for themes, to allow a
consistent user interface and the able to ensure design continuity. A theme
developer's kit will not be available with Windows XP.The last two lines state that ONLY MS will be able to (officially anyway -- I'm sure it will be hacked) change or implement themes. :mad:
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NT is meant to be "New Technology" (so I thought, but there seems to be disagreement. That's what I always heard, as well. I was at a job interview a couple of weeks ago, and I was chatting with the fellow interviewing me, and he had a different take on the name. He said MS hired one of the VMS creators to work on the first NT version. They thought of it as the "next version" of VMS, and if you add one to each letter in the acronym, you get WNT, or Windows NT. *shrug* Probably just another urban legend, but I thought it was funny. Now, if MS (or any company) wanted to be really clever, they'd package their 2001 releases in a plain black obelisk-shaped box that plays "Also Sprach Zarasthusthra" when picked up. :-D --Mike-- http://home.inreach.com/mdunn/ This must be Thursday. I never could get the hang of Thursdays...
Yes, it's an urban legend. It's just a coincidence, much like if you take the letters IBM and subtract 1 you get HAL ;) With only 26^3 combinations, you're bound to get a lot of coincidences. Actually, MS got on the bandwagon of disavowing any meaning to such letters after Intel lost their MMX trademark suit. Acronyms aren't trademarkable, so they decided to pretend that it's not an acronym. I wonder why they changed their mind with XP.
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How about "Windows MA" for "Meaningless Acronym"? :-D
Windows MA? Fatal system messages now start off with : - "You won't believe this sh*t, but ..." - "Damnit, guess what ..." - "Whatever f***ing idiot who wrote the program you're using screwed up big: ..." (In the US, 'MA' = 'Mature Audience' e.g. 18+. The rating is applied to TV shows and videogames) ;P -- Russell Morris Georgia Institute of Technology "Lisa, just because I don't care doesn't mean I'm not listening..." - Homer