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  • M Mycroft Holmes

    Main lesson should be NEVER leave the laptop in view, this applies to brief cases and these days back packs. Any item left in view in the back seat is asking for a broken window! Stick it in the boot, throw a blanket/jacket/jumper/anything over it but get it out of sight. And yeah I've been there with a brief case, at least the theif had the decency to break the smallest window and my $100 case only cost me $250 to replace the window!

    Quote from Great Outdoors: its a confident traveller who farts in India

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    Paul Watson
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    dunnydragon wrote:

    And yeah I've been there with a brief case, at least the theif had the decency to break the smallest window and my $100 case only cost me $250 to replace the window!

    A thief did the same for me. Sadly he realised he couldn't reach the lock from the small window. So then he started prying up the chrom window lining hoping to get at the locking mechanism. After bending it all the way off he gave that up and threw a brick through the big window. So I ended up with two broken windows and bent metal. Thanks thief!

    regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

    Andy Brummer wrote:

    Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.

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      ied wrote:

      Now I've an icon on my machines desktops to rsync 'em

      Are you running rsync from the Windows box or is the icon running the process from a *nix boxpulling the data over a samba share?

      Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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      I run the rsync client on the Windows machines. The NAS runs the server daemon. -- Ian

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      • M Mycroft Holmes

        Main lesson should be NEVER leave the laptop in view, this applies to brief cases and these days back packs. Any item left in view in the back seat is asking for a broken window! Stick it in the boot, throw a blanket/jacket/jumper/anything over it but get it out of sight. And yeah I've been there with a brief case, at least the theif had the decency to break the smallest window and my $100 case only cost me $250 to replace the window!

        Quote from Great Outdoors: its a confident traveller who farts in India

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        Howard Richards
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        I would add to this "even if it's empty". About ten years ago I parked my car just off a busy street to pick up a video. Literally five minutes and someone smashed my car window to get the briefcase I left on the passenger seat. It was empty, but of course they only found this out after smashing the window. I now NEVER leave a laptop or anything in car, not even the boot, for five seconds. Insurance companies do not cover items left in cars, regardless of being hidden not..

        'Howard

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        • P Paul Watson

          Sorry to hear that Mark, not fun. You know, that is another security problem with websites. Fire up the browser on a stolen laptop and all those sessions are there letting you into all manner of sites. Not online banking sure but email, Code Project, document stores etc. And it doesn't help much changing the password from another machine, the sessions are still valid.

          regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

          Andy Brummer wrote:

          Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.

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          Simon Capewell
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          So we can also add: Always log out properly from online banking. Never leave a browser open when you hibernate your laptop.

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          • N Not Active

            Just had my vehicle broken into this afternoon and had my laptop snatched from the backseat. BASTARDS!! To make matters worse, it was raining!! To make things even more interesting I was on a job interview, I would normally never have even been at the place. It's a small parking lot, maybe 20 slots, in the courtyard of two buildings, with a wall on one side, about 20 meters away from the roadway and up a slight incline, very limited access to the place. There was even a vehicle parked close enough to me that I barely had room to get out of mine, though I don't know if it happen after it had moved. Now for recovery phase. I had backed up my important files a month ago, and of course any financial info I had was encrypted. I was actually planning a backup this evening. How ironic. At least I have a spare system to use in the mean time. I was trying to convince the place at work at now to allow me to use my laptop, instead of the broken down desktop they gave me. Guess that idea is bust.


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            Dr Walt Fair PE
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            Well, chalk one up for experience. A few years ago my office was broken into. The thieves walked out with ALL of my computers, fax machine, copier, etc. Almost put me out of business. The fortunate thing was I had backups of all my projects stored off site. My secretary thought I was crazy for insisting that it be done daily and that one of us take them home. As a result, I was able to borrow a laptop, and get back to work as soon as the police finished taking the report. Insurance ended up replacing all the equipment. As the saying goes: For computers use your credit card, but backups --- priceless. Good luck!

            The PetroNerd

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            • R Ri Qen Sin

              My laptop is always with me unless it's inside my company's premises or inside my home.

              ROFLOLMFAO

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              azonenberg
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              Mine is always with me too. On top of that, any information I consider sensitive is encrypted, and the key is stored on an SD card. The crypto card is NEVER more than four feet away from me, even when I'm asleep.

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              • P Paul Watson

                dunnydragon wrote:

                And yeah I've been there with a brief case, at least the theif had the decency to break the smallest window and my $100 case only cost me $250 to replace the window!

                A thief did the same for me. Sadly he realised he couldn't reach the lock from the small window. So then he started prying up the chrom window lining hoping to get at the locking mechanism. After bending it all the way off he gave that up and threw a brick through the big window. So I ended up with two broken windows and bent metal. Thanks thief!

                regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                Andy Brummer wrote:

                Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.

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                Sad to say, but that is one benifit of taking the bus. As long as you don't forget stuff (a good way is to not put it on the floor, keep everything on your lap) you don't have anything to get broken in to.

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                  Just had my vehicle broken into this afternoon and had my laptop snatched from the backseat. BASTARDS!! To make matters worse, it was raining!! To make things even more interesting I was on a job interview, I would normally never have even been at the place. It's a small parking lot, maybe 20 slots, in the courtyard of two buildings, with a wall on one side, about 20 meters away from the roadway and up a slight incline, very limited access to the place. There was even a vehicle parked close enough to me that I barely had room to get out of mine, though I don't know if it happen after it had moved. Now for recovery phase. I had backed up my important files a month ago, and of course any financial info I had was encrypted. I was actually planning a backup this evening. How ironic. At least I have a spare system to use in the mean time. I was trying to convince the place at work at now to allow me to use my laptop, instead of the broken down desktop they gave me. Guess that idea is bust.


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                  Mark_Wallace
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                  Yet another argument in favour of using public transport. Greenpeace will love you.

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                  • D deltalmg

                    Sad to say, but that is one benifit of taking the bus. As long as you don't forget stuff (a good way is to not put it on the floor, keep everything on your lap) you don't have anything to get broken in to.

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                    Paul Watson
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                    I've forgotten things on the bus. And in taxis. And in my own car and a friend's car etc. "Don't forget it" is not good security :)

                    regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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                    Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.

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                    • P Paul Watson

                      I've forgotten things on the bus. And in taxis. And in my own car and a friend's car etc. "Don't forget it" is not good security :)

                      regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                      Andy Brummer wrote:

                      Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.

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                      deltalmg
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                      Indeed :)

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                      • D Dr Walt Fair PE

                        Well, chalk one up for experience. A few years ago my office was broken into. The thieves walked out with ALL of my computers, fax machine, copier, etc. Almost put me out of business. The fortunate thing was I had backups of all my projects stored off site. My secretary thought I was crazy for insisting that it be done daily and that one of us take them home. As a result, I was able to borrow a laptop, and get back to work as soon as the police finished taking the report. Insurance ended up replacing all the equipment. As the saying goes: For computers use your credit card, but backups --- priceless. Good luck!

                        The PetroNerd

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                        Ri Qen Sin
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                        PetroNerd wrote:

                        My secretary thought I was crazy for insisting that it be done daily and that one of us take them home.

                        Yup! A couple of days behind is better than starting from scratch! :-D

                        ROFLOLMFAO

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                        • P Paul Watson

                          I've forgotten things on the bus. And in taxis. And in my own car and a friend's car etc. "Don't forget it" is not good security :)

                          regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                          Andy Brummer wrote:

                          Watson's law: As an online discussion of cars grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving the Bugatti Veyron approaches one.

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                          rikimaru55
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                          This is something so that you can laugh and give it a thought, i study software engineering in Costa Rica(it's a country, NOT AN ISLAND!, the island is Puerto Rico). One time a friend of mine left his laptop, not in the backseat but on top of the car...We where on the second floor when a "pintilla"(suspicious looking guy) comes alongs and gets closer to the car. A friend said "Duuuude, isn't that {insert name}'s machine on top of his car". We had never ran so fast in our lives, when we got to the bottom floor, the "thief" was inspecting the laptop, he probably thought it was too easy to be true. We walked behind the guy, and he didn't even notice us( probably too stoned to notice), and when he reached to touch the package, we jumped up and screamed...GOD...he had NEVER ran soo fast in his life. We had planned to ran after him....but couldn't because we where laughing so damn hard it hurt...hurt so good Code Together, Die Alone

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                            Just had my vehicle broken into this afternoon and had my laptop snatched from the backseat. BASTARDS!! To make matters worse, it was raining!! To make things even more interesting I was on a job interview, I would normally never have even been at the place. It's a small parking lot, maybe 20 slots, in the courtyard of two buildings, with a wall on one side, about 20 meters away from the roadway and up a slight incline, very limited access to the place. There was even a vehicle parked close enough to me that I barely had room to get out of mine, though I don't know if it happen after it had moved. Now for recovery phase. I had backed up my important files a month ago, and of course any financial info I had was encrypted. I was actually planning a backup this evening. How ironic. At least I have a spare system to use in the mean time. I was trying to convince the place at work at now to allow me to use my laptop, instead of the broken down desktop they gave me. Guess that idea is bust.


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                            Gates VP
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                            So you just left a laptop worth thousands of dollars (hardware, software and data) in the car! If your company gave you short stack of hundred dollar bills would you just "leave that in the car"? Even when going to an interview? You're completely allowed to bring a briefcase or a laptop case into an interview with you, especially if you're in IT. Jeez, just bring the laptop with you! :wtf:

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                              So you just left a laptop worth thousands of dollars (hardware, software and data) in the car! If your company gave you short stack of hundred dollar bills would you just "leave that in the car"? Even when going to an interview? You're completely allowed to bring a briefcase or a laptop case into an interview with you, especially if you're in IT. Jeez, just bring the laptop with you! :wtf:

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                              Glad to see some people still ive in glass houses.


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                              • D deltalmg

                                Sad to say, but that is one benifit of taking the bus. As long as you don't forget stuff (a good way is to not put it on the floor, keep everything on your lap) you don't have anything to get broken in to.

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                                Jason Hanford Smith
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                                Ever been mugged? :sigh:

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                                • D deltalmg

                                  Sad to say, but that is one benifit of taking the bus. As long as you don't forget stuff (a good way is to not put it on the floor, keep everything on your lap) you don't have anything to get broken in to.

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                                  Ian Gooding
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                                  Hmm, not so at least in London. The bus companies usually have a hundred or so unclaimed laptops left on their buses!

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                                    So you just left a laptop worth thousands of dollars (hardware, software and data) in the car! If your company gave you short stack of hundred dollar bills would you just "leave that in the car"? Even when going to an interview? You're completely allowed to bring a briefcase or a laptop case into an interview with you, especially if you're in IT. Jeez, just bring the laptop with you! :wtf:

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                                    deltalmg
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                                    Agreed. My last onsite interview I brought my own laptop, they wanted me to give a 1 hr talk I didn't want to play the will your office like my office game. It's not the monetary value of the item, eg. my company laptop they paid 3k for (IBM T60 core 2 2.0 2GB RAM, I agree they got raped on the price), anyways, say I've used it for 33% of its useful life so its down to 2k in value. But I have my source code repository on it, I do somewhat frequent backups of the little coding projects I do, say once every couple weeks, really important stuff stays on a network share on our SAN, but anyways, I can still have a couple weeks worth of code on my laptop which is worth more than the 2k remaining value of the laptop, especially since it is probably insured.

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