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  • J Jim Crafton

    Chris Losinger wrote:

    describing himself instead of talking about me some more.

    Ditto! I love public presentations! And the whole fear of change doesn't much apply to me either. The whole "loves ... puzzles" bit I can't relate to at all - I mostly find them annoying. People who get off on crossword puzzles or sudoku boggle my mind, I just don't have the patience.

    ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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    Anders Molin
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    Jim Crafton wrote:

    The whole "loves ... puzzles" bit I can't relate to at all - I mostly find them annoying. People who get off on crossword puzzles or sudoku boggle my mind, I just don't have the patience.

    Same with me. If I try really hard, my attentionspan expires in a few minutes, and I think "why do it, I have no use for it" ;)

    - Anders

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    • A Andy Brummer

      Yeah, exercise is my current "project". I just went out and built a slosh pipe[^]. :-O


      This blanket smells like ham

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      Cool! That is totally in my way of thinking about excercise. When I'm working around the yard hauling dead trees to burn and running wheelbarrows that are precariously overfilled and always need to be rebalanced while I'm walking I get a hell of a work out to all my muscles. Sitting in a gym doing the same rote set of precise excercises over and over again just seems unnatural to me. You see hockey players all the time training on these boards with a ball on the bottom so they have to balance constantly to not fall over while standing on it. This seems like the same theory and makes so much sense. In this way you have a nice set of muscles for the real world.


      When everyone is a hero no one is a hero.

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      • D Dan Neely

        If you plead a 5th of liquor and then drink it all you'll be able to hide from the ignominy for a few hours. :doh:

        Otherwise [Microsoft is] toast in the long term no matter how much money they've got. They would be already if the Linux community didn't have it's head so firmly up it's own command line buffer that it looks like taking 15 years to find the desktop. -- Matthew Faithfull

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        El Corazon
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        dan neely wrote:

        If you plead a 5th of liquor and then drink it all you'll be able to hide from the ignominy for a few hours.

        That used to be pretty easy.... Now, I fear I haven't touched the sauce in nearly 20 years. Pretty scary. Though I just heard of the guy who drank his vodka rather than throw it away before getting on the plane... alcohol poisoning 5 minutes later. Still surprised that never happened to me. I was guzzling 180proof black label for a while, 2-3 pints at a time. People keep telling me I should be dead, I figure I got off lucky, and better not try it again. :-D I am not sure where the break is on alcohol to weight to know if they were telling me wrong or not, though I do keep hearing about the darwin candidates like that one for drinking to poisoning levels. Hate to say I was one once, but there you have it. At least my genes are permanently out of service anyhow! :laugh:

        _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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          I mentioned this excellent blog post (article?) in passing a few weeks ago but I don't think it got the proper prominence it deserves. It's a care and feeding guide for companions of nerds: http://www.randsinrepose.com/archives/2007/11/11/the_nerd_handbook.html[^] I am and always have been definitely about the "project". Right now the "project" is growing rare bamboo plants from seed (rare for around here anyway) In my "Cave" there are racks with large square panels covered in high intensity red and blue led light arrays suspended over small plant pots with all manner of bamboo in various stages from small seedlings to 8 inch high ones. My cave is rapdily turning into a jungle. See how many personal tendencies you recognize in that article.


          When everyone is a hero no one is a hero.

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          Mike Hankey
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          Good assessment, not perfect but pretty damn close! Cool! Mike

          Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. "George Carlin"

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            Cool! That is totally in my way of thinking about excercise. When I'm working around the yard hauling dead trees to burn and running wheelbarrows that are precariously overfilled and always need to be rebalanced while I'm walking I get a hell of a work out to all my muscles. Sitting in a gym doing the same rote set of precise excercises over and over again just seems unnatural to me. You see hockey players all the time training on these boards with a ball on the bottom so they have to balance constantly to not fall over while standing on it. This seems like the same theory and makes so much sense. In this way you have a nice set of muscles for the real world.


            When everyone is a hero no one is a hero.

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            John C wrote:

            Sitting in a gym doing the same rote set of precise excercises over and over again just seems unnatural to me.

            My understanding of things is that the gym machines were developed for body builders and rehabilitation. They are designed to isolate muscles to overcome injury or to develop a look. All my workouts include at least one full body exercise like burpes, woodchoppers, or sandbag cleans. I rarely work a specific muscle group. Pushups and squats are about as specific as I get.

            John C wrote:

            In this way you have a nice set of muscles for the real world.

            That's my goal. My next project is to work on pulling exercises by adding a set of rings and a climbing rope to the mix.


            This blanket smells like ham

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            • J Jim Crafton

              Chris Losinger wrote:

              describing himself instead of talking about me some more.

              Ditto! I love public presentations! And the whole fear of change doesn't much apply to me either. The whole "loves ... puzzles" bit I can't relate to at all - I mostly find them annoying. People who get off on crossword puzzles or sudoku boggle my mind, I just don't have the patience.

              ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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              El Corazon
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              Jim Crafton wrote:

              People who get off on crossword puzzles or sudoku boggle my mind, I just don't have the patience.

              I think there is no one stereotype for nerds. I do think there are those who fit the collective stereotype listed and there are some who don't. Each probably overlap in some areas, not in others. The author was definitely describing himself, and me, and a few others, but not all. He hasn't figured that out, probably because you were in the irrelevant category of his NADD. :laugh: I think back on the types of programmers listed a couple of months back that got everyone laughing, and then this article and I think the better way would be to isolate some of the different species of nerds rather than identify them all as the same. To the non-trained eye every hawk looks similar, but to an expert a red-tailed hawk looks very different from a harris hawk. So too, I think there are different species of nerds. I am the NADD, horribly NADD. I love puzzles, I eat cryptography for breakfast. I do crosswords and wordsearches on occasion, and bejeweled I get too involved in finding the most complex combinations rather than the fastest. I don't want to accidentally cause a chain reaction, I want to deliberately cause a chain reaction. I am the kid your mother never warned you about, but should have. ;) Why are you not supposed to mix clorox and amonia? ever ask that? I did, and I had to know. I HAD to know. Not just generally, "it releases a poisonous gas, it's dangerous, don't do it. yada, yada, yada." hmmmm, "what gas? what is left as a byproduct? is energy released, or gathered in the reaction?" and so I had the most effective insect killing jar in high school and the only person in the neighborhood who could kill fire-ants, and none of my beetles on the insect board ever "woke up" after being pinned. :laugh: Hey, knowledge is power! when used appropriately, of course! Once I knew the answer, I could use the answer too. When I got my first telescope, I didn't just have to know the moons of Jupiter, I had to plot them. I had to prove I was as good as Galileo and reproduce his calculations on the motions of the moons of Jupiter using the same data. I had to know. I HAD to know. It is an unquenchable search for knowledge, it is a thirst that never ends. It is its own end, and beginning and middle, it simply is, and is a part of me. It is not something that even can be described well. I can't do it, the author can't do it justice, tho

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                Jim Crafton wrote:

                People who get off on crossword puzzles or sudoku boggle my mind, I just don't have the patience.

                I think there is no one stereotype for nerds. I do think there are those who fit the collective stereotype listed and there are some who don't. Each probably overlap in some areas, not in others. The author was definitely describing himself, and me, and a few others, but not all. He hasn't figured that out, probably because you were in the irrelevant category of his NADD. :laugh: I think back on the types of programmers listed a couple of months back that got everyone laughing, and then this article and I think the better way would be to isolate some of the different species of nerds rather than identify them all as the same. To the non-trained eye every hawk looks similar, but to an expert a red-tailed hawk looks very different from a harris hawk. So too, I think there are different species of nerds. I am the NADD, horribly NADD. I love puzzles, I eat cryptography for breakfast. I do crosswords and wordsearches on occasion, and bejeweled I get too involved in finding the most complex combinations rather than the fastest. I don't want to accidentally cause a chain reaction, I want to deliberately cause a chain reaction. I am the kid your mother never warned you about, but should have. ;) Why are you not supposed to mix clorox and amonia? ever ask that? I did, and I had to know. I HAD to know. Not just generally, "it releases a poisonous gas, it's dangerous, don't do it. yada, yada, yada." hmmmm, "what gas? what is left as a byproduct? is energy released, or gathered in the reaction?" and so I had the most effective insect killing jar in high school and the only person in the neighborhood who could kill fire-ants, and none of my beetles on the insect board ever "woke up" after being pinned. :laugh: Hey, knowledge is power! when used appropriately, of course! Once I knew the answer, I could use the answer too. When I got my first telescope, I didn't just have to know the moons of Jupiter, I had to plot them. I had to prove I was as good as Galileo and reproduce his calculations on the motions of the moons of Jupiter using the same data. I had to know. I HAD to know. It is an unquenchable search for knowledge, it is a thirst that never ends. It is its own end, and beginning and middle, it simply is, and is a part of me. It is not something that even can be described well. I can't do it, the author can't do it justice, tho

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                El Corazon wrote:

                He hasn't figured that out, probably because you were in the irrelevant category of his NADD. :laugh:

                5 for that! :-D

                El Corazon wrote:

                It is an unquenchable search for knowledge, it is a thirst that never ends. It is its own end, and beginning and middle, it simply is, and is a part of me.

                And that's the essence of what distinguishes nerds from others. Different nerds are nerds about different subjects, but they all have a thirst for knowledge for the sake of knowing, that outweighs the things that "normal" people generally find most important.

                --Justin, Microsoft MVP, C#

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                  El Corazon wrote:

                  He hasn't figured that out, probably because you were in the irrelevant category of his NADD. :laugh:

                  5 for that! :-D

                  El Corazon wrote:

                  It is an unquenchable search for knowledge, it is a thirst that never ends. It is its own end, and beginning and middle, it simply is, and is a part of me.

                  And that's the essence of what distinguishes nerds from others. Different nerds are nerds about different subjects, but they all have a thirst for knowledge for the sake of knowing, that outweighs the things that "normal" people generally find most important.

                  --Justin, Microsoft MVP, C#

                  C# / DHTML / VG.net / MyXaml expert available for consulting work[^] Get Quality Portraits Drawn From Your Photos[^]

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                  Technically a "geek" is a nerd who is only interested in one subject, i.e. a "Manga Geek" or a "computer geek". I'm a nerd but I can't stand geeks. :)


                  When everyone is a hero no one is a hero.

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                  • A Andy Brummer

                    John C wrote:

                    Sitting in a gym doing the same rote set of precise excercises over and over again just seems unnatural to me.

                    My understanding of things is that the gym machines were developed for body builders and rehabilitation. They are designed to isolate muscles to overcome injury or to develop a look. All my workouts include at least one full body exercise like burpes, woodchoppers, or sandbag cleans. I rarely work a specific muscle group. Pushups and squats are about as specific as I get.

                    John C wrote:

                    In this way you have a nice set of muscles for the real world.

                    That's my goal. My next project is to work on pulling exercises by adding a set of rings and a climbing rope to the mix.


                    This blanket smells like ham

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                    Shit, no need to do that Andy we have about 24 tons of road crush gravel that needs to be wheelbarrowed all over our property for the trails we're building; we also have a fine collection of refrigerator sized boulders and 100 pound chunks of a 50 foot Douglas Fir tree that blew down this fall that need to be moved around. I'm sure we can have you puking in less than an hour. :)


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                    • M Member 96

                      I mentioned this excellent blog post (article?) in passing a few weeks ago but I don't think it got the proper prominence it deserves. It's a care and feeding guide for companions of nerds: http://www.randsinrepose.com/archives/2007/11/11/the_nerd_handbook.html[^] I am and always have been definitely about the "project". Right now the "project" is growing rare bamboo plants from seed (rare for around here anyway) In my "Cave" there are racks with large square panels covered in high intensity red and blue led light arrays suspended over small plant pots with all manner of bamboo in various stages from small seedlings to 8 inch high ones. My cave is rapdily turning into a jungle. See how many personal tendencies you recognize in that article.


                      When everyone is a hero no one is a hero.

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                      MY wife thought this article was me in many ways... now I tell her "cool" whenever I'm about to start tuning her out!! :-D

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                        Shit, no need to do that Andy we have about 24 tons of road crush gravel that needs to be wheelbarrowed all over our property for the trails we're building; we also have a fine collection of refrigerator sized boulders and 100 pound chunks of a 50 foot Douglas Fir tree that blew down this fall that need to be moved around. I'm sure we can have you puking in less than an hour. :)


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                        Andy Brummer
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                        Sounds like a slice of paradise. From the pictures you've posted it looks awesome up there. I'm good for things to lift right now, I'm lacking in the pulling department, which is why I want to get the rope and the rings for some solid upper back development.

                        John C wrote:

                        I'm sure we can have you puking in less than an hour.

                        I have no doubts on that account. :-D


                        This blanket smells like ham

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                        • M Member 96

                          I mentioned this excellent blog post (article?) in passing a few weeks ago but I don't think it got the proper prominence it deserves. It's a care and feeding guide for companions of nerds: http://www.randsinrepose.com/archives/2007/11/11/the_nerd_handbook.html[^] I am and always have been definitely about the "project". Right now the "project" is growing rare bamboo plants from seed (rare for around here anyway) In my "Cave" there are racks with large square panels covered in high intensity red and blue led light arrays suspended over small plant pots with all manner of bamboo in various stages from small seedlings to 8 inch high ones. My cave is rapdily turning into a jungle. See how many personal tendencies you recognize in that article.


                          When everyone is a hero no one is a hero.

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                          Sounds like Asperger Syndrom http://www.udel.edu/bkirby/asperger/aswhatisit.html[^] perhaps all coders have this mild form of autism...

                          MrPlankton

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                            I mentioned this excellent blog post (article?) in passing a few weeks ago but I don't think it got the proper prominence it deserves. It's a care and feeding guide for companions of nerds: http://www.randsinrepose.com/archives/2007/11/11/the_nerd_handbook.html[^] I am and always have been definitely about the "project". Right now the "project" is growing rare bamboo plants from seed (rare for around here anyway) In my "Cave" there are racks with large square panels covered in high intensity red and blue led light arrays suspended over small plant pots with all manner of bamboo in various stages from small seedlings to 8 inch high ones. My cave is rapdily turning into a jungle. See how many personal tendencies you recognize in that article.


                            When everyone is a hero no one is a hero.

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                            Thanks for the link. It describes me to a T. I'm about to print several copies of the post for distribution to members of my family. /ravi

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                              I mentioned this excellent blog post (article?) in passing a few weeks ago but I don't think it got the proper prominence it deserves. It's a care and feeding guide for companions of nerds: http://www.randsinrepose.com/archives/2007/11/11/the_nerd_handbook.html[^] I am and always have been definitely about the "project". Right now the "project" is growing rare bamboo plants from seed (rare for around here anyway) In my "Cave" there are racks with large square panels covered in high intensity red and blue led light arrays suspended over small plant pots with all manner of bamboo in various stages from small seedlings to 8 inch high ones. My cave is rapdily turning into a jungle. See how many personal tendencies you recognize in that article.


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                              Now that was so scary. I had read the article when you previously posted it. It sort of freaks me out as, well, HOW DOES THAT DUDE KNOW ME SO WELL?!?! Your nerd has built himself a cave ~ True enough. I think everyone is aware that you simply may not change anything in my room. :) Your nerd loves toys and puzzles. ~ That's me! I solved the Rubix in a couple minutes now, I love Sudoku, and those type of puzzles. Nerds are fucking funny. ~ Thanks Your nerd has built an annoyingly efficient relevancy engine in his head. ~ Yeah, whatever. Your nerd might come off as not liking people. ~ True enough You might’ve noticed your nerd’s strange relation to food. Does he eat fast? Like really fast? ~ Ok, this guy is starting to freak me out. He has defined my life in an article! I can't live without projects. The High.. is simply.. magnificent. :-D That was one of the best articles i've read after 'Hacker's Manifesto', ;P

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