Problems with playing HD movies...
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Background: using Vista Ultimate on our "media center" PC. It has a P4 3GHz, I think around 1.5 GB memory (too lazy to check, but somewhere around there ;p). A 7200rpm HDD (this might matter, so figured i'd include in the description). And EVGA 7600 GT graphics card. I use VLC for playing movies, as WIndows Media Player is, well, not up to the task. Now, most movies play fine. However, any HD movie I throw at it, it just isnt able to play it properly. Sometimes sound lags behind video, sometimes other way around. Sometimes it just stops playing for a while, then resumes. I'd think this setup is enough, but apparently not. Now, I remember someone had a similar problem before (leckey, I think?). Have you solved it? If so, how? Anyone else got any help to offer?
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Background: using Vista Ultimate on our "media center" PC. It has a P4 3GHz, I think around 1.5 GB memory (too lazy to check, but somewhere around there ;p). A 7200rpm HDD (this might matter, so figured i'd include in the description). And EVGA 7600 GT graphics card. I use VLC for playing movies, as WIndows Media Player is, well, not up to the task. Now, most movies play fine. However, any HD movie I throw at it, it just isnt able to play it properly. Sometimes sound lags behind video, sometimes other way around. Sometimes it just stops playing for a while, then resumes. I'd think this setup is enough, but apparently not. Now, I remember someone had a similar problem before (leckey, I think?). Have you solved it? If so, how? Anyone else got any help to offer?
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Background: using Vista Ultimate on our "media center" PC. It has a P4 3GHz, I think around 1.5 GB memory (too lazy to check, but somewhere around there ;p). A 7200rpm HDD (this might matter, so figured i'd include in the description). And EVGA 7600 GT graphics card. I use VLC for playing movies, as WIndows Media Player is, well, not up to the task. Now, most movies play fine. However, any HD movie I throw at it, it just isnt able to play it properly. Sometimes sound lags behind video, sometimes other way around. Sometimes it just stops playing for a while, then resumes. I'd think this setup is enough, but apparently not. Now, I remember someone had a similar problem before (leckey, I think?). Have you solved it? If so, how? Anyone else got any help to offer?
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Out of curiousity - are you using an HDMI cable to your monitor? Sounds to me like you're having DRM issues. That or your machine really isn't powerful enough, which would surprise me.
It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein
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Out of curiousity - are you using an HDMI cable to your monitor? Sounds to me like you're having DRM issues. That or your machine really isn't powerful enough, which would surprise me.
It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein
Patrick Sears wrote:
Sounds to me like you're having DRM issues.
Might be a possibility, but how about these: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/musicandvideo/hdvideo/contentshowcase.aspx[^] They're subject to the same problems...
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I believe so, as it is one of the first things I don when installing Windows on a PC that will be at some point used for movies. But I'll surely try again. Thanks for the suggestion ;)
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Background: using Vista Ultimate on our "media center" PC. It has a P4 3GHz, I think around 1.5 GB memory (too lazy to check, but somewhere around there ;p). A 7200rpm HDD (this might matter, so figured i'd include in the description). And EVGA 7600 GT graphics card. I use VLC for playing movies, as WIndows Media Player is, well, not up to the task. Now, most movies play fine. However, any HD movie I throw at it, it just isnt able to play it properly. Sometimes sound lags behind video, sometimes other way around. Sometimes it just stops playing for a while, then resumes. I'd think this setup is enough, but apparently not. Now, I remember someone had a similar problem before (leckey, I think?). Have you solved it? If so, how? Anyone else got any help to offer?
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Anton Afanasyev wrote:
just isnt able to play it properly. Sometimes sound lags behind video, sometimes other way around. Sometimes it just stops playing for a while, then resumes.
You just have to get used to the HD experience. We know you will like it.
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Anton Afanasyev wrote:
just isnt able to play it properly. Sometimes sound lags behind video, sometimes other way around. Sometimes it just stops playing for a while, then resumes.
You just have to get used to the HD experience. We know you will like it.
We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
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Background: using Vista Ultimate on our "media center" PC. It has a P4 3GHz, I think around 1.5 GB memory (too lazy to check, but somewhere around there ;p). A 7200rpm HDD (this might matter, so figured i'd include in the description). And EVGA 7600 GT graphics card. I use VLC for playing movies, as WIndows Media Player is, well, not up to the task. Now, most movies play fine. However, any HD movie I throw at it, it just isnt able to play it properly. Sometimes sound lags behind video, sometimes other way around. Sometimes it just stops playing for a while, then resumes. I'd think this setup is enough, but apparently not. Now, I remember someone had a similar problem before (leckey, I think?). Have you solved it? If so, how? Anyone else got any help to offer?
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Background: using Vista Ultimate on our "media center" PC. It has a P4 3GHz, I think around 1.5 GB memory (too lazy to check, but somewhere around there ;p). A 7200rpm HDD (this might matter, so figured i'd include in the description). And EVGA 7600 GT graphics card. I use VLC for playing movies, as WIndows Media Player is, well, not up to the task. Now, most movies play fine. However, any HD movie I throw at it, it just isnt able to play it properly. Sometimes sound lags behind video, sometimes other way around. Sometimes it just stops playing for a while, then resumes. I'd think this setup is enough, but apparently not. Now, I remember someone had a similar problem before (leckey, I think?). Have you solved it? If so, how? Anyone else got any help to offer?
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Do you have consent from the proper authorities to watch the movie? Did you install the necessary Authoritative Licensing Network Command rootkit?
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Background: using Vista Ultimate on our "media center" PC. It has a P4 3GHz, I think around 1.5 GB memory (too lazy to check, but somewhere around there ;p). A 7200rpm HDD (this might matter, so figured i'd include in the description). And EVGA 7600 GT graphics card. I use VLC for playing movies, as WIndows Media Player is, well, not up to the task. Now, most movies play fine. However, any HD movie I throw at it, it just isnt able to play it properly. Sometimes sound lags behind video, sometimes other way around. Sometimes it just stops playing for a while, then resumes. I'd think this setup is enough, but apparently not. Now, I remember someone had a similar problem before (leckey, I think?). Have you solved it? If so, how? Anyone else got any help to offer?
:badger:
Check to see whether VLC has options for dropping frames to keep audio and video in sync. We generally perceive audio glitches more easily than video glitches. I use Windows Media Player for all video and audio playback and find it well up to the task. For non-Microsoft sources I use a combination of ffdshow, Real Alternative and QuickTime Alternative, all of which install DirectShow filters which work with Windows Media Player, although for actual QuickTime or Real files I use Media Player Classic because WMP does not handle the QT and RAM formats. It does depend what you mean by 'HD Movie' - a downloaded file using DivX/XviD/MPEG-4/H.264? HD-DVD disc? Blu-Ray disc? Be aware that some DVD manufacturers used to bundle some pretty rubbish MPEG-2 codecs with their drives; I have no reason to expect that they won't continue to do so for the newer formats.
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Patrick Sears wrote:
Sounds to me like you're having DRM issues.
Might be a possibility, but how about these: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/musicandvideo/hdvideo/contentshowcase.aspx[^] They're subject to the same problems...
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Anton Afanasyev wrote:
They're subject to the same problems...
The issue is not DRM on the content; the issue is the DRM built into Vista. Protected Media Path doesn't care one whit whether the content you're consuming is actually DRM'd; it cares only that it interferes with the data stream to check for content protection streams. It always does this, no matter what you're listening to or watching. I suspect the data rate of HD is high enough that you're finally seeing the performance penalty involved. Keep in mind I'm only speculating. There's any of a million things it could be.
It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein
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Background: using Vista Ultimate on our "media center" PC. It has a P4 3GHz, I think around 1.5 GB memory (too lazy to check, but somewhere around there ;p). A 7200rpm HDD (this might matter, so figured i'd include in the description). And EVGA 7600 GT graphics card. I use VLC for playing movies, as WIndows Media Player is, well, not up to the task. Now, most movies play fine. However, any HD movie I throw at it, it just isnt able to play it properly. Sometimes sound lags behind video, sometimes other way around. Sometimes it just stops playing for a while, then resumes. I'd think this setup is enough, but apparently not. Now, I remember someone had a similar problem before (leckey, I think?). Have you solved it? If so, how? Anyone else got any help to offer?
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wasn't me...we have an HD player. I have not tried playing HD moves with our Vista machine. I will do some research and ask my husband when he gets home. What is your graphics card? I think that might be the problem. Haven't read it all but this might be part of it. http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,135814-c,windowsbugs/article.html[^]
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Out of curiousity - are you using an HDMI cable to your monitor? Sounds to me like you're having DRM issues. That or your machine really isn't powerful enough, which would surprise me.
It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein
Patrick Sears wrote:
Sounds to me like you're having DRM issues.
No offense, but STFUYDKWYATA. Frankly, it pisses me off that there are so many people, like yourself, who take any opportunity to blame DRM for every problem they encounter. Yeah, we get it. You don't like DRM, but please stop pretending DRM is the cause of every video or audio related issue. As an example, About 6 months ago when the Network issues with audio were identified, several people piped in "It's the DRM", when in fact it was not. Simply put, the video and audio piplines are complex pieces of code with multiple junction points were 3rd party code can insert itself. Certainly, DRM makes them more complex than they would be otherwise, but even without DRM they're still pretty complex. There are numerous points where a problem can cause failure that have nothing to do with DRM. As such, instantly blaming DRM not only fails to solve the problem, it causes people to give up on trying to find the real problem because they believe there's nothing they can do about DRM. It does nobody any good to whine about DRM when you simply haven't got any idea if that is true or not. You are simply projecting your dislike of DRM into every possible condition in which you can justify blaming it. </soapbox>
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Patrick Sears wrote:
Sounds to me like you're having DRM issues.
No offense, but STFUYDKWYATA. Frankly, it pisses me off that there are so many people, like yourself, who take any opportunity to blame DRM for every problem they encounter. Yeah, we get it. You don't like DRM, but please stop pretending DRM is the cause of every video or audio related issue. As an example, About 6 months ago when the Network issues with audio were identified, several people piped in "It's the DRM", when in fact it was not. Simply put, the video and audio piplines are complex pieces of code with multiple junction points were 3rd party code can insert itself. Certainly, DRM makes them more complex than they would be otherwise, but even without DRM they're still pretty complex. There are numerous points where a problem can cause failure that have nothing to do with DRM. As such, instantly blaming DRM not only fails to solve the problem, it causes people to give up on trying to find the real problem because they believe there's nothing they can do about DRM. It does nobody any good to whine about DRM when you simply haven't got any idea if that is true or not. You are simply projecting your dislike of DRM into every possible condition in which you can justify blaming it. </soapbox>
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Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
No offense, but STFUYDKWYATA
WTF=STFUYDKWYATA? Even Google does not know this contraption. :confused:
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Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
No offense, but STFUYDKWYATA
WTF=STFUYDKWYATA? Even Google does not know this contraption. :confused:
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STFU should be obvious. YDKWYATA = You Don't Know What You are Talking About.
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STFU should be obvious. YDKWYATA = You Don't Know What You are Talking About.
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Patrick Sears wrote:
Sounds to me like you're having DRM issues.
No offense, but STFUYDKWYATA. Frankly, it pisses me off that there are so many people, like yourself, who take any opportunity to blame DRM for every problem they encounter. Yeah, we get it. You don't like DRM, but please stop pretending DRM is the cause of every video or audio related issue. As an example, About 6 months ago when the Network issues with audio were identified, several people piped in "It's the DRM", when in fact it was not. Simply put, the video and audio piplines are complex pieces of code with multiple junction points were 3rd party code can insert itself. Certainly, DRM makes them more complex than they would be otherwise, but even without DRM they're still pretty complex. There are numerous points where a problem can cause failure that have nothing to do with DRM. As such, instantly blaming DRM not only fails to solve the problem, it causes people to give up on trying to find the real problem because they believe there's nothing they can do about DRM. It does nobody any good to whine about DRM when you simply haven't got any idea if that is true or not. You are simply projecting your dislike of DRM into every possible condition in which you can justify blaming it. </soapbox>
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You should read my reply. Quote:
Keep in mind I'm only speculating. There's any of a million things it could be.
Finally, calm down. I'm not trying to "blame" anything. Vista's DRM issues and their effects on performance are documented. I'm simply offering a possibility, one I freely admit is mere speculation. YOU'RE the one who has to learn to control your responses, in particular by not reading so much into mine. This being the lounge, I will end this here. I suggest you do the same.
It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein
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Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
No offense, but STFUYDKWYATA
WTF=STFUYDKWYATA? Even Google does not know this contraption. :confused:
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Luc Pattyn wrote:
WTF=STFUYDKWYATA? Even Google does not know this contraption.
Almost certainly an issue with Google's DRM system :)
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You should read my reply. Quote:
Keep in mind I'm only speculating. There's any of a million things it could be.
Finally, calm down. I'm not trying to "blame" anything. Vista's DRM issues and their effects on performance are documented. I'm simply offering a possibility, one I freely admit is mere speculation. YOU'RE the one who has to learn to control your responses, in particular by not reading so much into mine. This being the lounge, I will end this here. I suggest you do the same.
It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein
Patrick Sears wrote:
Vista's DRM issues and their effects on performance are documented
Actually, no. Vista's "DRM Issues" and their "effects on performance" are speculated on. 99.9% of the people making that claim are using the "opinion" paper written by Peter Gutmann. This paper is pure opinion and speculation based on (poorly) analyzing a specification. It has zero analysis done to the actual code or implementation on Vista. Vista (and more likely 3rd party drivers) has problems, and bugs, that are 99 out of 100 times more likely to be the cause of these problems than DRM is. While I don't like DRM any more than anyone else, the fact of the matter is, this has become a religious war that people use any opportunity they can to get in swipes at Vista for it. I'm just tired of hearing people pipe in and blame DRM at the slightest hint of an audio or video problem, as you did. There is a mass hysteria going on about stuff, particularly related to Microsoft and the RIAA or MPAA, and people are prone to believe anything they hear that's negative toward them. Your response is couched and qualified. You believe it's DRM based on zero evidence. You've fallen for the propoganda hook, line and sinker. There has been a very disturbing trend going on with so called "technical" people repeating the same disinformation over and over. It started years ago when MS first announced "Palladium". People who were otherwise knowledgable were prone to repeating made up BS like "Palladium takes away your control" or "Microsoft owns your computer and you have no say in how it can be used". These are the same kinds of comments like "the V-Chip is going to take over your TV". Simply put, it's sensationalist hyperbole designed to instill fear and anger in people, and it's worked very well. This isn't REALLY directed at you, your post was just the trigger. I appologize for going medieval on your response. And don't think that i'm defending Vista either. Vista has plenty of issues and problems, but it's a lot more productive to deal with it's actual issues rather than made up ones.
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