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    El Corazon
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    How did someone come up with coffee? Think about it.... were they just tossing beans in water and cooking it then throwing away the beans and drinking the water left over? Time for a second cup as I ponder this....

    _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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      How did someone come up with coffee? Think about it.... were they just tossing beans in water and cooking it then throwing away the beans and drinking the water left over? Time for a second cup as I ponder this....

      _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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      Pete OHanlon
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      Preparation H effectively uses a sharks liver. Who looked at a sharks liver and thought "I know, I'll stuff that up my bottom to cure the piles. It's worth a go."

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        How did someone come up with coffee? Think about it.... were they just tossing beans in water and cooking it then throwing away the beans and drinking the water left over? Time for a second cup as I ponder this....

        _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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        Vikram A Punathambekar
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        How did humans come to drink cows' milk? (and for good measure, goats, buffaloes, etc) Did the first guy look at a cow's udder and say to himself "I'm going to squeeze that and drink whatever comes out"? :~

        Cheers, Vikram.


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          How did someone come up with coffee? Think about it.... were they just tossing beans in water and cooking it then throwing away the beans and drinking the water left over? Time for a second cup as I ponder this....

          _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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          David Crow
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          The first observation probably had to do with eating coffee beans rather than drinking them. It was only a natural segue into putting them into water.

          "Normal is getting dressed in clothes that you buy for work and driving through traffic in a car that you are still paying for, in order to get to the job you need to pay for the clothes and the car and the house you leave vacant all day so you can afford to live in it." - Ellen Goodman

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            How did someone come up with coffee? Think about it.... were they just tossing beans in water and cooking it then throwing away the beans and drinking the water left over? Time for a second cup as I ponder this....

            _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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            Marc Clifton
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            I've often wondered that about beer or anything that requires a fermentation process and essentially a sterile environment. If you've ever tasted (or even smelled) homemade beer or wine that came out wrong, you'll get a sense of how difficult the process is. And it amazes me that they've found evidence of beer and wine dating back thousands of years. Marc

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              How did humans come to drink cows' milk? (and for good measure, goats, buffaloes, etc) Did the first guy look at a cow's udder and say to himself "I'm going to squeeze that and drink whatever comes out"? :~

              Cheers, Vikram.


              "If a trend is truly global, then that trend ought to be visible across ANY subset of that data" - fat_boy

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              Malcolm Smart
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              Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

              "I'm going to squeeze that and drink whatever comes out"?

              I'm just glad it was the cow they decided to try it with and not the bull. Imagine having a pint of that stuff on your cereal of a morning...

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                How did someone come up with coffee? Think about it.... were they just tossing beans in water and cooking it then throwing away the beans and drinking the water left over? Time for a second cup as I ponder this....

                _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                R Giskard Reventlov
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                What about bread? How do you figure that one out with no prior experience?

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                  Preparation H effectively uses a sharks liver. Who looked at a sharks liver and thought "I know, I'll stuff that up my bottom to cure the piles. It's worth a go."

                  Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

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                  El Corazon
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                  Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                  Who looked at a sharks liver and thought "I know, I'll stuff that up my bottom to cure the piles. It's worth a go."

                  he probably was sticking his behind in the ocean and got more he bargained for... and decided he was going to make that shark pay by finding uses for every ounce of his hide.... ;P

                  _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                    Preparation H effectively uses a sharks liver. Who looked at a sharks liver and thought "I know, I'll stuff that up my bottom to cure the piles. It's worth a go."

                    Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.

                    My blog | My articles

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                    Jim Crafton
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                    Well, you know how it goes. It's 5000 BC, it's been a long day in the ziggurat, your bottom itches, the kids are screaming, and the wife's being a nag. Suddenly you look at that bit of shark liver, left over from last nights party at your brother-in-laws with the temple hookers, and it starts to look interesting, and you think, "What have I got to lose? I'm 35 and I'll probably be dead in just a few more years anyways!".

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                    • E El Corazon

                      How did someone come up with coffee? Think about it.... were they just tossing beans in water and cooking it then throwing away the beans and drinking the water left over? Time for a second cup as I ponder this....

                      _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                      Not sure why bread above got voted down but ive often thought about the process of dough making. Take 1 Unfertilised egg Grind up some thing that grows to make flour Squeeze the boobs of a cow. Mix. Now who the hell though to do that?

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                        Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                        "I'm going to squeeze that and drink whatever comes out"?

                        I'm just glad it was the cow they decided to try it with and not the bull. Imagine having a pint of that stuff on your cereal of a morning...

                        Small angry dogs

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                        Jim Crafton
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                        I'm sure the guys behind the Jackass movie will have this as a major plot device in their next movie "Jackass 3.1: When The Idiots Ruled the Earth".

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                          How did someone come up with coffee? Think about it.... were they just tossing beans in water and cooking it then throwing away the beans and drinking the water left over? Time for a second cup as I ponder this....

                          _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                          Related note: There is a coffee being sold where the process of procuring the supply of beans is to wait for a jungle cat of some kind to eat the beans, and then crap them out. You gotta wonder who a) dug through cat crap to see what was in it, and b) found the coffee beans and subsequently wondered how good of a cup of coffee they could make with them. Amazingly, this is supposed to be the most expensive coffee you can buy.

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                            How did humans come to drink cows' milk? (and for good measure, goats, buffaloes, etc) Did the first guy look at a cow's udder and say to himself "I'm going to squeeze that and drink whatever comes out"? :~

                            Cheers, Vikram.


                            "If a trend is truly global, then that trend ought to be visible across ANY subset of that data" - fat_boy

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                            Maybe that's not as far out as you think. I mean, consider this: It's 10,000 BC. Ug is watching his son, Ig, breast feed with his mother Ugga. Stifling back mild pangs of envy, Ugga is looking particularly fine today, he notices his neighbors cow across the way and sees the swaying, heavy udder. Then he glances back at Ugga. Back to the cow. Back to Ugga. Ug's stomach issues a few grumblings as he glances back to the cow's udder, then back to his beloved Ug. Finally he gets up and wanders over to the cow, a plan slowly forming in the dim nether regions of brain... Six months later Zug turns to Ugga, "You know, Ug was on to something with the cow! This stuff tastes great! Too bad he didn't figure to use a bucket to catch the stuff!"

                            ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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                              Related note: There is a coffee being sold where the process of procuring the supply of beans is to wait for a jungle cat of some kind to eat the beans, and then crap them out. You gotta wonder who a) dug through cat crap to see what was in it, and b) found the coffee beans and subsequently wondered how good of a cup of coffee they could make with them. Amazingly, this is supposed to be the most expensive coffee you can buy.

                              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                              "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                              Jim Crafton
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                              Give new meaning to the word "craptastic"!

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                                Not sure why bread above got voted down but ive often thought about the process of dough making. Take 1 Unfertilised egg Grind up some thing that grows to make flour Squeeze the boobs of a cow. Mix. Now who the hell though to do that?

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                                El Corazon
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                                J4amieC wrote:

                                Not sure why bread above got voted down

                                Having just a teensy bit of history on aboriginal cultures, I don't agree that it is strange, per se. But I voted it back up to even it out. I am actually quite familiar with how all these things come about. But it still amazes me the sequences that go into it. I drink my coffee black, I figure that was how it was first done so I enjoy it natural. I can't imagine soaking my beans in the water and then saying, blech, I hate this water, but I will add milk and sugar to it to make it more enjoyable. :doh: Back to the milking the bull comment, would milk and sugar make that taste better too? X| Bread came in steps.... you have your crushed grains made into flour, which came from eating the grains raw first. If you have had flour and water bisquits you've tasted the first breads. Some things came by accidents, some by experimentation. Like me adding sage to my cooking, a cook tends to have something he adds that someone who taught him did not. Things grow, change from generation to generation and flour and water bread becomes modern combinations over much time and great diversity as each culture added different things to their grains as well as different source grains. Blue-corn looks horrible as a rough ground flour -> bread (slightly better as a modern finely ground flour to start with). But blue-corn breads are actually pretty tasty.

                                _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                  Related note: There is a coffee being sold where the process of procuring the supply of beans is to wait for a jungle cat of some kind to eat the beans, and then crap them out. You gotta wonder who a) dug through cat crap to see what was in it, and b) found the coffee beans and subsequently wondered how good of a cup of coffee they could make with them. Amazingly, this is supposed to be the most expensive coffee you can buy.

                                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                  "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                  Amazingly, this is supposed to be the most expensive coffee you can buy.

                                  You get what you pay for, right?

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                                  • E El Corazon

                                    How did someone come up with coffee? Think about it.... were they just tossing beans in water and cooking it then throwing away the beans and drinking the water left over? Time for a second cup as I ponder this....

                                    _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                    The indigenous people tried all kinds of plants. That's how they knew certain plants were good medicinally. They chewed the beans for an energy boost. Not sure why they decided to add water. From wikipedia Coffee use can be traced at least to as early as the 9th century, when it appeared in the highlands of Ethiopia.[1] According to legend, Ethiopian shepherds were the first to observe the influence of the caffeine in coffee beans when the goats appeared to "dance" and to have an increased level of energy after consuming wild coffee berries.[11] The legend names the shepherd "Kaldi." From Ethiopia, coffee spread to Egypt and Yemen,[12] and by the 15th century, it had reached the rest of the Middle East, Persia, Turkey, and northern Africa.

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                                      Related note: There is a coffee being sold where the process of procuring the supply of beans is to wait for a jungle cat of some kind to eat the beans, and then crap them out. You gotta wonder who a) dug through cat crap to see what was in it, and b) found the coffee beans and subsequently wondered how good of a cup of coffee they could make with them. Amazingly, this is supposed to be the most expensive coffee you can buy.

                                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                      -----
                                      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                      jungle cat of some kind to eat the beans, and then crap them out.

                                      Does anybody wanna try some chocolate I ate last night?

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                                        Related note: There is a coffee being sold where the process of procuring the supply of beans is to wait for a jungle cat of some kind to eat the beans, and then crap them out. You gotta wonder who a) dug through cat crap to see what was in it, and b) found the coffee beans and subsequently wondered how good of a cup of coffee they could make with them. Amazingly, this is supposed to be the most expensive coffee you can buy.

                                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                        -----
                                        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                        Amazingly, this is supposed to be the most expensive coffee you can buy.

                                        If you eat a live toad first thing in the morning, nothing worse will happen all day long. --California saying To you or the toad. --Niven's restatement of California saying --well, most of the time, anyway. . . --programmer's caveat to Niven's restatement of California saying I'll take the toad over cat-crapped-coffee (CCC) any day -- El Corazon's reply to all comments on the California saying....

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                                          Maybe that's not as far out as you think. I mean, consider this: It's 10,000 BC. Ug is watching his son, Ig, breast feed with his mother Ugga. Stifling back mild pangs of envy, Ugga is looking particularly fine today, he notices his neighbors cow across the way and sees the swaying, heavy udder. Then he glances back at Ugga. Back to the cow. Back to Ugga. Ug's stomach issues a few grumblings as he glances back to the cow's udder, then back to his beloved Ug. Finally he gets up and wanders over to the cow, a plan slowly forming in the dim nether regions of brain... Six months later Zug turns to Ugga, "You know, Ug was on to something with the cow! This stuff tastes great! Too bad he didn't figure to use a bucket to catch the stuff!"

                                          ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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                                          El Corazon
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                                          Jim Crafton wrote:

                                          Too bad he didn't figure to use a bucket to catch the stuff!"

                                          probably didn't bother to pull anything either.... Ug see, Ug do.... ;P

                                          _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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