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Woman from Arkansas gets 6 months in jail for sending "racially charged letter"

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  • D Demon Possessed

    http://www.arktimes.com/blogs/arkansasblog/2007/12/sentencing_in_maumelle_hate_cr.aspx[^] Because the letter violated the recipients "fair housing" rights. :rolleyes: Who cares about free speech when the feelings of minorities are stake!

    Happy birthday baby Jesus! Please don't burn us all in hell forever.

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    A quote from the letter: "Just a note from ALL your new neighbors in the new neighborhood. This is a white neighborhood and if you have to choose to live in a white neighborhood ACT white not like niggers. Keep your children contained in your house and not hanging out in the street like gangs. You really hurt the property value of the neighborhood. We so appreciate that." Sounds pretty much like hate to me. And the woman plead guilty to the charges. Stuff it Kyle.

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      A quote from the letter: "Just a note from ALL your new neighbors in the new neighborhood. This is a white neighborhood and if you have to choose to live in a white neighborhood ACT white not like niggers. Keep your children contained in your house and not hanging out in the street like gangs. You really hurt the property value of the neighborhood. We so appreciate that." Sounds pretty much like hate to me. And the woman plead guilty to the charges. Stuff it Kyle.

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      Rob Graham wrote:

      Sounds pretty much like hate to me.

      Of course, that free speech thingy doesn't apply when minorities might get their feelings hurt. And if these "hate speech" laws were applied to everyone Kamau Kambon[^] would be in jail, not teaching a college class.

      Happy birthday baby Jesus! Please don't burn us all in hell forever.

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        A quote from the letter: "Just a note from ALL your new neighbors in the new neighborhood. This is a white neighborhood and if you have to choose to live in a white neighborhood ACT white not like niggers. Keep your children contained in your house and not hanging out in the street like gangs. You really hurt the property value of the neighborhood. We so appreciate that." Sounds pretty much like hate to me. And the woman plead guilty to the charges. Stuff it Kyle.

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        CataclysmicQuantum
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        No one should get jail time for that. She was expressing her views.

        Word, write letters and sh*t yo. It takes 46 muscles to frown but only 4 to flip 'em the bird. Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings. The greatest pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do. Everyone needs believe in something. I believe I'll have another beer.

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          No one should get jail time for that. She was expressing her views.

          Word, write letters and sh*t yo. It takes 46 muscles to frown but only 4 to flip 'em the bird. Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings. The greatest pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do. Everyone needs believe in something. I believe I'll have another beer.

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          Let me repeat: SHE PLEAD GUILTY.

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            Let me repeat: SHE PLEAD GUILTY.

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            CataclysmicQuantum
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            I PLEAD GUILTY to typing this message, and in this message I said NIGGER. Do I get jail time now?

            Word, write letters and sh*t yo. It takes 46 muscles to frown but only 4 to flip 'em the bird. Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings. The greatest pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do. Everyone needs believe in something. I believe I'll have another beer.

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            • D Demon Possessed

              Rob Graham wrote:

              Sounds pretty much like hate to me.

              Of course, that free speech thingy doesn't apply when minorities might get their feelings hurt. And if these "hate speech" laws were applied to everyone Kamau Kambon[^] would be in jail, not teaching a college class.

              Happy birthday baby Jesus! Please don't burn us all in hell forever.

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              Rob Graham
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              What part of Plead Guilty do you not comprehend?

              Demon Possessed wrote:

              And if these "hate speech" laws were applied to everyone Kamau Kambon[^] would be in jail, not teaching a college class

              He probably should be. But his crime does not excuse hers.

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                I PLEAD GUILTY to typing this message, and in this message I said NIGGER. Do I get jail time now?

                Word, write letters and sh*t yo. It takes 46 muscles to frown but only 4 to flip 'em the bird. Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings. The greatest pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do. Everyone needs believe in something. I believe I'll have another beer.

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                Rob Graham
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                CataclysmicQuantum wrote:

                Do I get jail time now?

                I have forwarded this to the FBI, with any luck...

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                  Let me repeat: SHE PLEAD GUILTY.

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                  Demon Possessed
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                  Rob Graham wrote:

                  Let me repeat: SHE PLEAD GUILTY.

                  But do you think she should have been charged in the first place? Political correctness is like a religion, there is no evidence that it is beneficial, and it it's proponents act like offended Muslims whenever a white person is hateful, all while black people like the one in the youtube video I posted a few posts up can get by with saying things much more racist than what she said. Oh, and get out of my thread Joshua, your agreement is the last thing anyone needs.

                  Happy birthday baby Jesus! Please don't burn us all in hell forever.

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                  • R Rob Graham

                    CataclysmicQuantum wrote:

                    Do I get jail time now?

                    I have forwarded this to the FBI, with any luck...

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                    CataclysmicQuantum
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                    You will be exterminated.

                    Word, write letters and sh*t yo. It takes 46 muscles to frown but only 4 to flip 'em the bird. Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings. The greatest pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do. Everyone needs believe in something. I believe I'll have another beer.

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                    • R Rob Graham

                      What part of Plead Guilty do you not comprehend?

                      Demon Possessed wrote:

                      And if these "hate speech" laws were applied to everyone Kamau Kambon[^] would be in jail, not teaching a college class

                      He probably should be. But his crime does not excuse hers.

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                      Rob Graham wrote:

                      What part of Plead Guilty do you not comprehend?

                      Wow, you seriously are dumb. To Plead Guilty you have to be charged with a crime. What I was saying is that politically incorrect speech should not be a crime.

                      Happy birthday baby Jesus! Please don't burn us all in hell forever.

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                        You will be exterminated.

                        Word, write letters and sh*t yo. It takes 46 muscles to frown but only 4 to flip 'em the bird. Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings. The greatest pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do. Everyone needs believe in something. I believe I'll have another beer.

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                        Rob Graham
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                        CataclysmicQuantum wrote:

                        You will be exterminated.

                        Not by the likes of your wimpy racist drug headed ass! Get a life.

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                          CataclysmicQuantum wrote:

                          You will be exterminated.

                          Not by the likes of your wimpy racist drug headed ass! Get a life.

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                          CataclysmicQuantum
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                          A wimpy racist drug headed ass, lol. Dream on.

                          Word, write letters and sh*t yo. It takes 46 muscles to frown but only 4 to flip 'em the bird. Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings. The greatest pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do. Everyone needs believe in something. I believe I'll have another beer.

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                          • D Demon Possessed

                            Rob Graham wrote:

                            Let me repeat: SHE PLEAD GUILTY.

                            But do you think she should have been charged in the first place? Political correctness is like a religion, there is no evidence that it is beneficial, and it it's proponents act like offended Muslims whenever a white person is hateful, all while black people like the one in the youtube video I posted a few posts up can get by with saying things much more racist than what she said. Oh, and get out of my thread Joshua, your agreement is the last thing anyone needs.

                            Happy birthday baby Jesus! Please don't burn us all in hell forever.

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                            Demon Possessed wrote:

                            But do you think she should have been charged in the first place?

                            She was stupid enough to use the U.S Mail to threaten them (hence charge # 1). She accused them of damaging property values just by their racial composition (hence charge #2). Just for her white trash stupidity she deserved to be charged. And to repeat: the bad acts of others DO NOT EXCUSE this bad act. In no moral code, no system of ethics, nor code of justice do two wrongs cancel each other out.

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                              Demon Possessed wrote:

                              But do you think she should have been charged in the first place?

                              She was stupid enough to use the U.S Mail to threaten them (hence charge # 1). She accused them of damaging property values just by their racial composition (hence charge #2). Just for her white trash stupidity she deserved to be charged. And to repeat: the bad acts of others DO NOT EXCUSE this bad act. In no moral code, no system of ethics, nor code of justice do two wrongs cancel each other out.

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                              CataclysmicQuantum
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                              Rob Graham wrote:

                              Just for her white trash stupidity she deserved to be charged.

                              That statement right there disqualifies you from making any future arguments on this or related subjects. If that statement is true then you deserve to be punished for your stupidity.

                              Word, write letters and sh*t yo. It takes 46 muscles to frown but only 4 to flip 'em the bird. Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings. The greatest pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do. Everyone needs believe in something. I believe I'll have another beer.

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                                Demon Possessed wrote:

                                But do you think she should have been charged in the first place?

                                She was stupid enough to use the U.S Mail to threaten them (hence charge # 1). She accused them of damaging property values just by their racial composition (hence charge #2). Just for her white trash stupidity she deserved to be charged. And to repeat: the bad acts of others DO NOT EXCUSE this bad act. In no moral code, no system of ethics, nor code of justice do two wrongs cancel each other out.

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                                Demon Possessed
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                                Rob Graham wrote:

                                She was stupid enough to use the U.S Mail to threaten them

                                I missed the part about threats. Don't you think terroristic threatening would have gotten more than 6 months?

                                Rob Graham wrote:

                                She accused them of damaging property values just by their racial composition (hence charge #2).

                                And how is this a crime?

                                Rob Graham wrote:

                                Just for her white trash stupidity

                                Are you going to turn yourself in to the police now?

                                Happy birthday baby Jesus! Please don't burn us all in hell forever.

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                                  http://www.arktimes.com/blogs/arkansasblog/2007/12/sentencing_in_maumelle_hate_cr.aspx[^] Because the letter violated the recipients "fair housing" rights. :rolleyes: Who cares about free speech when the feelings of minorities are stake!

                                  Happy birthday baby Jesus! Please don't burn us all in hell forever.

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                                  peterchen
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                                  As I understand, it's feds business because she sent it with mail? I haven't read the letter, but the punishment seems disproportionate.

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                                  • D Demon Possessed

                                    http://www.arktimes.com/blogs/arkansasblog/2007/12/sentencing_in_maumelle_hate_cr.aspx[^] Because the letter violated the recipients "fair housing" rights. :rolleyes: Who cares about free speech when the feelings of minorities are stake!

                                    Happy birthday baby Jesus! Please don't burn us all in hell forever.

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                                    I think there is a fine line between free speech and inciting fear/violence. If the free speech is directed on one person to incite fear then I think that is heinous--but I don't believe in hate crimes. A white family could do the same to another white resident based on religion, sex, sexual orientation etc. Intimidation is intimidation.

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                                      Rob Graham wrote:

                                      Let me repeat: SHE PLEAD GUILTY.

                                      But do you think she should have been charged in the first place? Political correctness is like a religion, there is no evidence that it is beneficial, and it it's proponents act like offended Muslims whenever a white person is hateful, all while black people like the one in the youtube video I posted a few posts up can get by with saying things much more racist than what she said. Oh, and get out of my thread Joshua, your agreement is the last thing anyone needs.

                                      Happy birthday baby Jesus! Please don't burn us all in hell forever.

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                                      Demon Possessed wrote:

                                      But do you think she should have been charged in the first place?

                                      Quite simply, Yes. She gave the victims cause to fear for their own safety and freedom by threatening them. That is the line between the freedom to insult people and ending up in jail to protect others. Is it worth 12 months (6 in prison, 6 house arrest)? That is for your laws and your judges to decide.


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                                        Demon Possessed wrote:

                                        But do you think she should have been charged in the first place?

                                        Quite simply, Yes. She gave the victims cause to fear for their own safety and freedom by threatening them. That is the line between the freedom to insult people and ending up in jail to protect others. Is it worth 12 months (6 in prison, 6 house arrest)? That is for your laws and your judges to decide.


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                                        CataclysmicQuantum
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                                        David Wulff wrote:

                                        She gave the victims cause to fear for their own safety and freedom by threatening them.

                                        And what was the threat that she made?

                                        Word, write letters and sh*t yo. It takes 46 muscles to frown but only 4 to flip 'em the bird. Friendship is like peeing on yourself: everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling that it brings. The greatest pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do. Everyone needs believe in something. I believe I'll have another beer.

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                                        • D Demon Possessed

                                          Rob Graham wrote:

                                          She was stupid enough to use the U.S Mail to threaten them

                                          I missed the part about threats. Don't you think terroristic threatening would have gotten more than 6 months?

                                          Rob Graham wrote:

                                          She accused them of damaging property values just by their racial composition (hence charge #2).

                                          And how is this a crime?

                                          Rob Graham wrote:

                                          Just for her white trash stupidity

                                          Are you going to turn yourself in to the police now?

                                          Happy birthday baby Jesus! Please don't burn us all in hell forever.

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                                          Rob Graham
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                                          As a white man, I'm entitled to hold that opinion of that woman, no racism involved. She, and you, are lousy representatives for our common race.

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