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  • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

    What is the largest program you have ever developed entirely by yourself? You were handed a specs document and you did the technical design, all the coding and testing until the application was complete and delivered?

    “Cannot find REALITY.SYS...Universe Halted.” ~ God on phone with Microsoft Customer Support

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    I was working for a mega company and there was a program that interfaced with a GPX, it was written in C and I was given the task of upgrading it. It wasn't documented, commented and no one knew anything about it other than it worked. I had just finished developing a base class lib for C++ so I convinced them to let me rewrite in C++. To this day it is still in production...I finished it in 1995. It handles a call center with 150 agents (at the time) and takes an average of 3000 calls a day. Mike

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      CPallini wrote:

      Well I wrote "hello world" in COBOL.

      Mmm... COBOL! :cool:

      000100 IDENTIFICATION DIVISION.
      000200 PROGRAM-ID. HELLOWORLD.
      000300
      000400*
      000500 ENVIRONMENT DIVISION.
      000600 CONFIGURATION SECTION.
      000700 SOURCE-COMPUTER. RM-COBOL.
      000800 OBJECT-COMPUTER. RM-COBOL.
      000900
      001000 DATA DIVISION.
      001100 FILE SECTION.
      001200
      100000 PROCEDURE DIVISION.
      100100
      100200 MAIN-LOGIC SECTION.
      100300 BEGIN.
      100400 DISPLAY " " LINE 1 POSITION 1 ERASE EOS.
      100500 DISPLAY "Hello world!" LINE 15 POSITION 10.
      100600 STOP RUN.
      100700 MAIN-LOGIC-EXIT.
      100800 EXIT.

      /ravi

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      Ravi Bhavnani wrote:

      000100 IDENTIFICATION DIVISION. 000200 PROGRAM-ID. HELLOWORLD. 000300 000400* 000500 ENVIRONMENT DIVISION. 000600 CONFIGURATION SECTION. 000700 SOURCE-COMPUTER. RM-COBOL. 000800 OBJECT-COMPUTER. RM-COBOL. 000900 001000 DATA DIVISION. 001100 FILE SECTION. 001200 100000 PROCEDURE DIVISION. 100100 100200 MAIN-LOGIC SECTION. 100300 BEGIN. 100400 DISPLAY " " LINE 1 POSITION 1 ERASE EOS. 100500 DISPLAY "Hello world!" LINE 15 POSITION 10. 100600 STOP RUN. 100700 MAIN-LOGIC-EXIT. 100800 EXIT.

      /ravi? Mmm....http://www.engin.umd.umich.edu/CIS/course.des/cis400/cobol/hworld.html[^] :-D Happy new year! :rose:

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        Ravi Bhavnani wrote:

        000100 IDENTIFICATION DIVISION. 000200 PROGRAM-ID. HELLOWORLD. 000300 000400* 000500 ENVIRONMENT DIVISION. 000600 CONFIGURATION SECTION. 000700 SOURCE-COMPUTER. RM-COBOL. 000800 OBJECT-COMPUTER. RM-COBOL. 000900 001000 DATA DIVISION. 001100 FILE SECTION. 001200 100000 PROCEDURE DIVISION. 100100 100200 MAIN-LOGIC SECTION. 100300 BEGIN. 100400 DISPLAY " " LINE 1 POSITION 1 ERASE EOS. 100500 DISPLAY "Hello world!" LINE 15 POSITION 10. 100600 STOP RUN. 100700 MAIN-LOGIC-EXIT. 100800 EXIT.

        /ravi? Mmm....http://www.engin.umd.umich.edu/CIS/course.des/cis400/cobol/hworld.html[^] :-D Happy new year! :rose:

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        Damn, I thought I was the only one who knew about Google. :( Happy new year to you too! /ravi

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        • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

          That's amazing! Can you say what it did?

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          Does it really matter? It involved animal genetics.

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            Damn, I thought I was the only one who knew about Google. :( Happy new year to you too! /ravi

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            Ravi Bhavnani wrote:

            I thought I was the only one who knew about Google.

            Google? What's that? :rolleyes:

            "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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              Does it really matter? It involved animal genetics.

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              I don't mean to pry. The reason I asked is that I'm considering writing a very large program on my own, and I only wanted to get a sense of the complexity that other people had tackled on their own.

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              • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                What is the largest program you have ever developed entirely by yourself? You were handed a specs document and you did the technical design, all the coding and testing until the application was complete and delivered?

                “Cannot find REALITY.SYS...Universe Halted.” ~ God on phone with Microsoft Customer Support

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                In terms of lines of code, was probably a sorting program I had to write for an assembly language class years ago. It was in the neighborhood of about 5,000 lines in the file. Could have been double the length, but I did a self-modifying code trick to trim it down a bit for ascending sorting and descending sorting. But as far as real-world stuff, I really don't pay much attention anymore to the size of the program. As long as it meets client requirements and works as they expect, that is all that really matters.

                "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                  I was working for a mega company and there was a program that interfaced with a GPX, it was written in C and I was given the task of upgrading it. It wasn't documented, commented and no one knew anything about it other than it worked. I had just finished developing a base class lib for C++ so I convinced them to let me rewrite in C++. To this day it is still in production...I finished it in 1995. It handles a call center with 150 agents (at the time) and takes an average of 3000 calls a day. Mike

                  Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. "George Carlin

                  Semper Fi http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com[^]

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                  Mike Hankey wrote:

                  It wasn't documented, commented and no one knew anything

                  Oh boy :rolleyes:

                  "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                    Ravi Bhavnani wrote:

                    I thought I was the only one who knew about Google.

                    Google? What's that? :rolleyes:

                    "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

                    modified on Monday, December 31, 2007 6:48:27 PM

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                    Paul Conrad wrote:

                    Google? What's that?

                    Apparently it's a website that's supposed to help you find stuff. So I typed in "Where are my gloves?" but it was of no help whatsoever. :( /ravi

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                    • R Ravi Bhavnani

                      Paul Conrad wrote:

                      Google? What's that?

                      Apparently it's a website that's supposed to help you find stuff. So I typed in "Where are my gloves?" but it was of no help whatsoever. :( /ravi

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                      For some reason the joke icon isn't working. ( It is something with FF, because IE7 it's fine ).

                      Ravi Bhavnani wrote:

                      So I typed in "Where are my gloves?" but it was of no help whatsoever.

                      :laugh:

                      "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                        Mike Hankey wrote:

                        It wasn't documented, commented and no one knew anything

                        Oh boy :rolleyes:

                        "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                        Hey Paul, Yeah, it was a lot of work. We'd test it in production at 3AM shift change so towards the end it was all kinds of crazy hours. There was one lady project manager there and she used to tell me "Mike, I don't know what you do its just magic". I just let her keep thinking that! Have a good new year, be safe. Mike

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                        • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                          Hey Paul, Yeah, it was a lot of work. We'd test it in production at 3AM shift change so towards the end it was all kinds of crazy hours. There was one lady project manager there and she used to tell me "Mike, I don't know what you do its just magic". I just let her keep thinking that! Have a good new year, be safe. Mike

                          Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. "George Carlin

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                          Mike Hankey wrote:

                          I just let her keep thinking that!

                          :laugh:

                          Mike Hankey wrote:

                          Have a good new year, be safe.

                          Same to you and your family :)

                          "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                            For some reason the joke icon isn't working. ( It is something with FF, because IE7 it's fine ).

                            Ravi Bhavnani wrote:

                            So I typed in "Where are my gloves?" but it was of no help whatsoever.

                            :laugh:

                            "Real programmers just throw a bunch of 1s and 0s at the computer to see what sticks" - Pete O'Hanlon

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                            Paul Conrad wrote:

                            For some reason the joke icon isn't working. ( It is something with FF, because IE7 it's fine ).

                            FF 2.0.0.11 here, and I see that joke icon just fine. wohooo!! This is my first CP post in 2008. :cool: And totally useless one ;)


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                              Paul Conrad wrote:

                              For some reason the joke icon isn't working. ( It is something with FF, because IE7 it's fine ).

                              FF 2.0.0.11 here, and I see that joke icon just fine. wohooo!! This is my first CP post in 2008. :cool: And totally useless one ;)


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                              dnh wrote:

                              FF 2.0.0.11 here.

                              Same here. Trying with CPHog turned off. --modified And it works now. :suss:

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                                Paul Conrad wrote:

                                For some reason the joke icon isn't working. ( It is something with FF, because IE7 it's fine ).

                                FF 2.0.0.11 here, and I see that joke icon just fine. wohooo!! This is my first CP post in 2008. :cool: And totally useless one ;)


                                [My Blog]
                                "Visual studio desperately needs some performance improvements. It is sometimes almost as slow as eclipse." - Rüdiger Klaehn
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                                If I modify the post with CPHog turned on, then the joke icon goes away :suss: Maunder was looking into it and I let him know that it must be a CPHog matter. Do you use CPHog?

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                                  If I modify the post with CPHog turned on, then the joke icon goes away :suss: Maunder was looking into it and I let him know that it must be a CPHog matter. Do you use CPHog?

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                                  Paul Conrad wrote:

                                  Do you use CPHog?

                                  Nope. So sorry Shog :)


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                                  • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                                    I don't mean to pry. The reason I asked is that I'm considering writing a very large program on my own, and I only wanted to get a sense of the complexity that other people had tackled on their own.

                                    “Cannot find REALITY.SYS...Universe Halted.” ~ God on phone with Microsoft Customer Support

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                                    Unfortunately I cannot give you specs or even information on specific functionality of the program. I do believe, however, if you tackle a project using an Agile development methodology, 1 person can take it on.

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                                    • CPalliniC CPallini

                                      Well I wrote "hello world" in COBOL. :-D

                                      If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
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                                      around 11k lines of VB.NET code over the course of 2yrs My RSS reader, FeedMonster.

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                                      • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                                        What is the largest program you have ever developed entirely by yourself? You were handed a specs document and you did the technical design, all the coding and testing until the application was complete and delivered?

                                        “Cannot find REALITY.SYS...Universe Halted.” ~ God on phone with Microsoft Customer Support

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                                        Pfft! Specs document indeed. I just thought of the only time I was "handed a specs document"; it was rubbish, I wrote something better and safer instead. My first project after college was a three month contract using C. (The worst C code ever. You may not like my C#, but trust me, that C is worse.) I just checked the source code for that project, and I see 35 File(s) (.C and .H) 291,822 bytes for a total of 7,872 lines of text (code, comments, whatever) which, of course, is a totally meaningless statistic. For the last three years I've been working on a project in C# that is now 287 File(s) (.CS only) 3,123,944 bytes for a total of 86,059 lines of text... OK, now I'm depressed. (On the other hand, there are very few comments in this one... :doh: ) Oh... but it's not all one program, in fact the line is rather blurry here too, what with DLLs and Reflection and such.

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                                        • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                                          What is the largest program you have ever developed entirely by yourself? You were handed a specs document and you did the technical design, all the coding and testing until the application was complete and delivered?

                                          “Cannot find REALITY.SYS...Universe Halted.” ~ God on phone with Microsoft Customer Support

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                                          Independent123 wrote:

                                          What is the largest program you have ever developed entirely by yourself?

                                          The virtual test range was completely developed by myself with only some math-help from a mathematician, but I still wrote all the code. It was 180,000 lines of code (minus comments). The successor was started by myself and another programmer added at the end of the product. It had 300,000 lines of code at delivery, about 250k when my partner was added.

                                          _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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