RentACoder.com is down?
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Paul Watson wrote:
You have used it successfully?
Yes, I've made ~30 projects there, and got only 10/10 score from buyers :)
------------------------- Listen up! "Teamwork" means staying out of my way! (Seifer, Final Fantasy 8).
Couple questions, if you don't mind. 1. Are you making a living off of it or is this part-time work? 2. 30 projects is a lot. How big and long is an average project? 1 month? 2 months? 3. What, on average, do you get paid per hour for the work?
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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Couple questions, if you don't mind. 1. Are you making a living off of it or is this part-time work? 2. 30 projects is a lot. How big and long is an average project? 1 month? 2 months? 3. What, on average, do you get paid per hour for the work?
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
Paul Watson wrote:
1. Are you making a living off of it or is this part-time work?
Yes, I'm making my living with RaC jobs.
Paul Watson wrote:
2. 30 projects is a lot. How big and long is an average project? 1 month? 2 months?
Average first project - less that a week. Average next projects (after you're proven reliable to the buyer) - about 1 month.
Paul Watson wrote:
3. What, on average, do you get paid per hour for the work?
I'm paid per-project, not per-hour. First project (see above) - usually less than $100 ($70 on average). Next projects - $500+. I'm a C/C++/ASP.NET/Javascript developer.
------------------------- Listen up! "Teamwork" means staying out of my way! (Seifer, Final Fantasy 8).
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Hi everyone. Several hours ago the site RentACoder.com (the biggest freelancing site) disappeared for me - I mean that I can't enter the site. All browsers I try say that server drops the connection. Can please anyone try? (just try to load the www.rentacoder.com) Thanks in advance.
------------------------- Listen up! "Teamwork" means staying out of my way! (Seifer, Final Fantasy 8).
Site is up, thanks everyone.
------------------------- Listen up! "Teamwork" means staying out of my way! (Seifer, Final Fantasy 8).
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Hi everyone. Several hours ago the site RentACoder.com (the biggest freelancing site) disappeared for me - I mean that I can't enter the site. All browsers I try say that server drops the connection. Can please anyone try? (just try to load the www.rentacoder.com) Thanks in advance.
------------------------- Listen up! "Teamwork" means staying out of my way! (Seifer, Final Fantasy 8).
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Hi everyone. Several hours ago the site RentACoder.com (the biggest freelancing site) disappeared for me - I mean that I can't enter the site. All browsers I try say that server drops the connection. Can please anyone try? (just try to load the www.rentacoder.com) Thanks in advance.
------------------------- Listen up! "Teamwork" means staying out of my way! (Seifer, Final Fantasy 8).
Is that necessarily a bad thing?
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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Paul Watson wrote:
1. Are you making a living off of it or is this part-time work?
Yes, I'm making my living with RaC jobs.
Paul Watson wrote:
2. 30 projects is a lot. How big and long is an average project? 1 month? 2 months?
Average first project - less that a week. Average next projects (after you're proven reliable to the buyer) - about 1 month.
Paul Watson wrote:
3. What, on average, do you get paid per hour for the work?
I'm paid per-project, not per-hour. First project (see above) - usually less than $100 ($70 on average). Next projects - $500+. I'm a C/C++/ASP.NET/Javascript developer.
------------------------- Listen up! "Teamwork" means staying out of my way! (Seifer, Final Fantasy 8).
Dmitry Khudorozhkov wrote:
Average first project - less that a week. Average next projects (after you're proven reliable to the buyer) - about 1 month.
Dmitry Khudorozhkov wrote:
I'm paid per-project, not per-hour. First project (see above) - usually less than $100 ($70 on average). Next projects - $500+. I'm a C/C++/ASP.NET/Javascript developer.
Dmitry Khudorozhkov wrote:
Yes, I'm making my living with RaC jobs.
I can't even imagine those first two (last on your message) matching up with this statement. $100 for a week project? $500 for a month? My part time work pays more than your week in a single day. Pop those up a factor of 10 and you have a living.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Site is up, thanks everyone.
------------------------- Listen up! "Teamwork" means staying out of my way! (Seifer, Final Fantasy 8).
Dmitry Khudorozhkov wrote:
Site is up, thanks everyone.
Now I feel another disturbance in the force.... as if a million developers shook their collective heads in dismay and rolled their eyes all simultaniously.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Dmitry Khudorozhkov wrote:
Average first project - less that a week. Average next projects (after you're proven reliable to the buyer) - about 1 month.
Dmitry Khudorozhkov wrote:
I'm paid per-project, not per-hour. First project (see above) - usually less than $100 ($70 on average). Next projects - $500+. I'm a C/C++/ASP.NET/Javascript developer.
Dmitry Khudorozhkov wrote:
Yes, I'm making my living with RaC jobs.
I can't even imagine those first two (last on your message) matching up with this statement. $100 for a week project? $500 for a month? My part time work pays more than your week in a single day. Pop those up a factor of 10 and you have a living.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
El Corazon wrote:
I can't even imagine those first two (last on your message) matching up with this statement
These were the numbers for a single project. At any given time, I have 2 or 3 jobs running. Got the point? :)
------------------------- Listen up! "Teamwork" means staying out of my way! (Seifer, Final Fantasy 8).
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Dmitry Khudorozhkov wrote:
Average first project - less that a week. Average next projects (after you're proven reliable to the buyer) - about 1 month.
Dmitry Khudorozhkov wrote:
I'm paid per-project, not per-hour. First project (see above) - usually less than $100 ($70 on average). Next projects - $500+. I'm a C/C++/ASP.NET/Javascript developer.
Dmitry Khudorozhkov wrote:
Yes, I'm making my living with RaC jobs.
I can't even imagine those first two (last on your message) matching up with this statement. $100 for a week project? $500 for a month? My part time work pays more than your week in a single day. Pop those up a factor of 10 and you have a living.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
Russian costs of living are much lower. By local standards it's a decent amount of money.
Otherwise [Microsoft is] toast in the long term no matter how much money they've got. They would be already if the Linux community didn't have it's head so firmly up it's own command line buffer that it looks like taking 15 years to find the desktop. -- Matthew Faithfull
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El Corazon wrote:
I can't even imagine those first two (last on your message) matching up with this statement
These were the numbers for a single project. At any given time, I have 2 or 3 jobs running. Got the point? :)
------------------------- Listen up! "Teamwork" means staying out of my way! (Seifer, Final Fantasy 8).
Dmitry Khudorozhkov wrote:
I have 2 or 3 jobs running. Got the point?
That is still substandard living. At 20 hours a week (part-time) I make 10 times an RaC project from the sound of it. So half time, 10 times the wages, I think you can quickly see why others are complaining. I am glad you have found work through it. I am certain you may work hard for it, but it is perhaps greatest single excuse to take advantage of developers on the net. And that gold medal they wear proudly and developers still flock to them in droves with full knowledge that they are being taken advantage of (even you admitted it above). Talk about lemmings jumping off a cliff.... Now there is a very fitting analogy. And perhaps more obvious why professional developers are more than a bit annoyed by this place.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Russian costs of living are much lower. By local standards it's a decent amount of money.
Otherwise [Microsoft is] toast in the long term no matter how much money they've got. They would be already if the Linux community didn't have it's head so firmly up it's own command line buffer that it looks like taking 15 years to find the desktop. -- Matthew Faithfull
dan neely wrote:
By local standards it's a decent amount of money.
There is that. Okay, I admit there are regions in the world where costs of living are low enough that they can make money. I wish them well then, and hope the cost of living never goes up. Because one thing is pretty much guarenteed of that site, expectations from employers will only go up, and outlay of funds for those same expectations will only go down or stay the same. It is the latter that hurt developers even should they make a living. You can make a living as a fire-fighter, but the chance of getting burned is always very high.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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dan neely wrote:
By local standards it's a decent amount of money.
There is that. Okay, I admit there are regions in the world where costs of living are low enough that they can make money. I wish them well then, and hope the cost of living never goes up. Because one thing is pretty much guarenteed of that site, expectations from employers will only go up, and outlay of funds for those same expectations will only go down or stay the same. It is the latter that hurt developers even should they make a living. You can make a living as a fire-fighter, but the chance of getting burned is always very high.
_________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
True. Outsourcing tech work to India/China is already approaching the break even point vs US/EU labor costs once the higher levels of US management/supervision are factored in. The dirt cheap IT folks are shifting to other targets but once they become popular the tides will rise there as well.
Otherwise [Microsoft is] toast in the long term no matter how much money they've got. They would be already if the Linux community didn't have it's head so firmly up it's own command line buffer that it looks like taking 15 years to find the desktop. -- Matthew Faithfull
