Sun bought MySQL!
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Fred Szoldatits wrote:
how does one company have 0.2 of an employee?
no, it's .200 of an employee. don't discard significant digits!
Chris Losinger wrote:
no, it's .200 of an employee. don't discard significant digits!
I was going to comment on the ability of an organization to have .001 of a person but I wasn't sure if that was going to far.
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I don't know, Marc... Because is multi-platform? And because it's free and also faster than SqlServer? What do you think?
blackjack2150 wrote:
Because is multi-platform?
ok, that's a good reason.
blackjack2150 wrote:
And because it's free and also faster than SqlServer?
Nothing is "free". And as to faster, I'd have to see some evidence of that. Marc
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does SQL Server Express run on Linux, and come free with all linux-based hosting packages ?
Chris Losinger wrote:
does SQL Server Express run on Linux
Losinger -1, Clifton - 0
Chris Losinger wrote:
and come free
As I said in another post, nothing is free.
Chris Losinger wrote:
with all linux-based hosting packages
Not interested in Linux, but yeah, if I were, I'd look at MySQL. So, Losinger 2.5, Clifton .5 ? Marc
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blackjack2150 wrote:
And because it's free and also faster than SqlServer?
Free yes, but I would be careful about "faster".
You should be careful about "free" as well. It's not free if you want to use it in a commercial application that isn't istelf under GPL. (Which is fair enough - but lots of people get caught out thinking that it is always free)
'--8<------------------------ Ex Datis: Duncan Jones Merrion Computing Ltd
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I didn't read the whole article, but it says there that "This morning, Sun Microsystems announced plans to acquire MySQL AB." So I'm not holding my breath just yet. But anyway the MySql stuff doesn't look very good because they make a lot of money on the back of all the John Doe's doing patriotic work for the MySql codebase.
blackjack2150 wrote:
But anyway the MySql stuff doesn't look very good because they make a lot of money on the back of all the John Doe's doing patriotic work for the MySql codebase.
MySQL AB has always done that.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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So? With SQL Server Express, I see no reason to use anything else for most applications that require a database, and if the app needs something heavyweight, then SQL Server, not some open source DB, would be my recommendation. Marc
hee hee. The biggest sites on the net use MySQL. It is more than adequate. And while it isn't free, it is a helluva lot cheaper than SQL Server, especially when you bring in the Windows costs. Anyway. Sorry Marc but I'm just amazed you think MySQL is irrelevant. It is a big deal that Sun has bought MySQL AB. It could affect a lot of companies and programmers.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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Reading the article... Facts on Sun Microsystems "34.200 employees worldwide" ..ummm.... how does one company have 0.2 of an employee???:confused: and a total of 34.2 worldwide, they must be cyborgs to do what they do.
Dwarves. Midgets. Little People. Child labour?
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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Ahhhh hehe it was hard to tell you were joking ;) Next time select "Joke" as the message type when making your post :)
I always keep a straight face.:|
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Clickety[^] :omg: Just saw this on slash dot
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"
Hastening the demise of the RMDBS in web-land. Hurrah! In all seriousness I don't know what to make of the news. Could be a bad thing or maybe Sun won't ruin it at all. I can't see them improving it much though.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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hee hee. The biggest sites on the net use MySQL. It is more than adequate. And while it isn't free, it is a helluva lot cheaper than SQL Server, especially when you bring in the Windows costs. Anyway. Sorry Marc but I'm just amazed you think MySQL is irrelevant. It is a big deal that Sun has bought MySQL AB. It could affect a lot of companies and programmers.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
Really, I thought google developed a custom inhouse solution because none of the OTS ones met its need.
Otherwise [Microsoft is] toast in the long term no matter how much money they've got. They would be already if the Linux community didn't have it's head so firmly up it's own command line buffer that it looks like taking 15 years to find the desktop. -- Matthew Faithfull
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Really, I thought google developed a custom inhouse solution because none of the OTS ones met its need.
Otherwise [Microsoft is] toast in the long term no matter how much money they've got. They would be already if the Linux community didn't have it's head so firmly up it's own command line buffer that it looks like taking 15 years to find the desktop. -- Matthew Faithfull
Sure, MapReduce technique and BigTable they made but they use MySQL a lot. They have contributed patches to MySQL for threading and concurrency. Not every Google sized problem needs a hairy custom solution.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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hee hee. The biggest sites on the net use MySQL. It is more than adequate. And while it isn't free, it is a helluva lot cheaper than SQL Server, especially when you bring in the Windows costs. Anyway. Sorry Marc but I'm just amazed you think MySQL is irrelevant. It is a big deal that Sun has bought MySQL AB. It could affect a lot of companies and programmers.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
Paul Watson wrote:
Anyway. Sorry Marc but I'm just amazed you think MySQL is irrelevant.
lol. It's irrelevant to me. Keep in mind that I am irrelevant (or is it irreverent, or maybe both) to many people myself.
Paul Watson wrote:
It is a big deal that Sun has bought MySQL AB.
Except for high end servers (which I don't use anyways), I find Sun irrelevant, excepting of course the Java, the ultimate write once run nowhere language (not my phrase, maybe that was John Simmons???) But yeah, although I consider my experience pretty diverse, I admit I've never worked on a project of the scale of, say, Amazon, or even something remotely approaching that scale that would require either Linux or big $$$. Marc
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Aye, I love Sql Server. And even if your after an Open Source DB for whatever reason the are much better ones[^].
originSH wrote:
And even if your after an Open Source DB for whatever reason the are much better ones[^].
Technically yes but in real world situations, no. Hard to swing a cat and not hit a dev who knows MySQL. You'll need a bloody big cat to hit Postgre developers. We tried to do the right thing and use postgre for awhile but ran into loads of problems that took longer to solve than a problem in MySQL would have taken to fix. So pragmaticlly, MySQL better.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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MySQL has been dead to me ever since they treated me like crap for daring to ask what requirements I had to fulfil to use it in a commercial application. Firebird is much better from everything I've ever read and it has served us well for years and on the commercial side SQL Express and SQL server fulfill the job nicely. It's nice to see there are so many sql products out there but let's be honest, all they really do in practical terms is keep the price of MS SQL server down.
When everyone is a hero no one is a hero.
FireBird is possibly the fastest server I've worked on.
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"
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I was hoping that they'd go public so I can buy shares :( I wonder what stance Oracle will take.
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"
Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
I wonder what stance Oracle will take.
It'll probably be one leg cocked, with it's hand on its hips. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a smoking jacket and a cigarette holder involved - possibly a cravat.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
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Indeed - especially as MySQL is on the GPL viral license model.
'--8<------------------------ Ex Datis: Duncan Jones Merrion Computing Ltd
GPL only has an effect on your app, if you link with it. I.e., the code gets injected into your process.
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hee hee. The biggest sites on the net use MySQL. It is more than adequate. And while it isn't free, it is a helluva lot cheaper than SQL Server, especially when you bring in the Windows costs. Anyway. Sorry Marc but I'm just amazed you think MySQL is irrelevant. It is a big deal that Sun has bought MySQL AB. It could affect a lot of companies and programmers.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
Paul Watson wrote:
The biggest sites on the net use MySQL
Well, for those running on Linux boxes at least..
Paul Watson wrote:
It is a big deal that Sun has bought MySQL AB. It could affect a lot of companies and programmers.
Yep, yet again, if you are working on a Linux system.
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Hastening the demise of the RMDBS in web-land. Hurrah! In all seriousness I don't know what to make of the news. Could be a bad thing or maybe Sun won't ruin it at all. I can't see them improving it much though.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
Paul Watson wrote:
I can't see them improving it much though.
Yeah, I think the way they would push forward would be if they wanted a commercial enterprise version and a stripped down lite version that would be free.
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Paul Watson wrote:
The biggest sites on the net use MySQL
Well, for those running on Linux boxes at least..
Paul Watson wrote:
It is a big deal that Sun has bought MySQL AB. It could affect a lot of companies and programmers.
Yep, yet again, if you are working on a Linux system.
Rocky <>< Blog Post: Interesting LINQ to SQL article Series Tech Blog Post: Cheap Biofuels and Synthetics coming soon?
Rocky Moore wrote:
Well, for those running on Linux boxes at least..
Which is many of them. Out of the top ten only MSN and MySpace would not be using LAMP or similar. Google, Yahoo!, Faceberg, Amazon, eBay, YouTube, Craigslist, Wikipedia etc. So yes. For those running on Linux boxes. An awful lot of us.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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Mustafa Ismail Mustafa wrote:
I wonder what stance Oracle will take.
It'll probably be one leg cocked, with it's hand on its hips. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a smoking jacket and a cigarette holder involved - possibly a cravat.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
Hmmm... I feel as though there should be some sherry with that...
"Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." - Rick Cook "There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance." Ali ibn Abi Talib "Animadvertistine, ubicumque stes, fumum recta in faciem ferri?"