How many books people read
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Christopher Duncan wrote:
there are three kinds of falsehoods: lies, damned lies, and statistics
Actually, there are four: lies, damned lies, statistics, and tax returns.
Software Zen:
delete this;So which ones do politicians tell? From what I can see, they tell the first 3, and expect everyone else to tell the forth
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The only caveat with Ringo is that some of his last few books have become rather politicized. The dems in his ghost books are caricatures, and the ones he's coauthored with Tom Kratman are 95% Tom's and possess truely stunning amounts of vitriol. From what I've seen of The Last Centurion (mostly the first ~25%), although 100% John's writing it looks to be as much political rant as anything else, although he's tossed a few high action snippets from later in the book.
Otherwise [Microsoft is] toast in the long term no matter how much money they've got. They would be already if the Linux community didn't have it's head so firmly up it's own command line buffer that it looks like taking 15 years to find the desktop. -- Matthew Faithfull
dan neely wrote:
The only caveat with Ringo is that some of his last few books have become rather politicized
I'm forced to agree. I wasn't really aware of him until his Posleen series which I thought was excellently well done at first - then Watch on the Rhine showed up with a sympathetic view of the Waffen SS. . . . The point that he makes - people sleep in their beds tonight because somewhere rough men are prepared to do violence to those who would harm them (Trying to quote George Orwell) is one I've tried to make a few times here and elsewhere, but it's really hard to swallow the idea that the SS (even the soldiering end of it) can be cast as noble is a little hard to take. Still and all, as an action writer he comes close to Clancy. Even while I am rejecting some of what he he offers up as a world-view, I am turning the page to find out what happens next.
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dan neely wrote:
The only caveat with Ringo is that some of his last few books have become rather politicized
I'm forced to agree. I wasn't really aware of him until his Posleen series which I thought was excellently well done at first - then Watch on the Rhine showed up with a sympathetic view of the Waffen SS. . . . The point that he makes - people sleep in their beds tonight because somewhere rough men are prepared to do violence to those who would harm them (Trying to quote George Orwell) is one I've tried to make a few times here and elsewhere, but it's really hard to swallow the idea that the SS (even the soldiering end of it) can be cast as noble is a little hard to take. Still and all, as an action writer he comes close to Clancy. Even while I am rejecting some of what he he offers up as a world-view, I am turning the page to find out what happens next.
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That's basically pure Kratman, and I don't know if he fully believes it himself, or just did it to infuriate the left. Tom styles himself as a politcal refugee and defector from the Peoples Republic of Massachusetts and has a truely implacable hatred of the left. If it makes you feel any better about being hoodwinked the text on the cover isn't what John, Tom, and Jim Baen had agreed to in the past. As John's put in in multiple cons it was supposed to say:
The Watch on the Rhine by Tom Kratman
in the universe created by john ringo Yellow Eyes (Tom's Posleen in Panama) doesn't have any single thing as blatant the SS, but dwells enough more heavily on the treason of the left (sold earth out to the darhel for promise of transport off world) to have a similar level of political intensity. It doesn't look like it's going to be as easy to skip though. Several of the main characters from it are also main characters in The Tuloriad, which'll be his 3rd posleen colab. The Tuloriad one doesn't appear to have any attack on human political targets, although Tom apparently is planning to put the Darhel in his sights instead later in the book. It appears that this one is going to be along with Honor of the CLan (Callys War #3) a leadin/major brackground dump into the Eye of the Storm (start of the next series of Mike ONeal Jr books). HotC's manuscript is due in 2 more months and EotS is at 90% and mainly being held because of needing to sync events with it and HotC. Mild spoilers (major events type) for EotS below.: You get to see Mike O'Neal, Jr learn that Cally and Papa survived the war. And that he's got grandkids and step-siblings. You get to see the OTHER types of Himmits. You get to see an enemy that makes fighting the Posleen look boring. You get to watch the Darhel squirm.
Otherwise [Microsoft is] toast in the long term no matter how much money they've got. They would be already if the Linux community didn't have it's head so firmly up it's own command line buffer that it looks like taking 15 years to find the desktop. -- Matthew Faithfull
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I was reading a bit about why Stevo thinks the Kindle won't go anywhere: because no one reads (as opposed to the real reason - it sucks and it's a lame device). Which I thought was a typical ridiculous comment from Jobs until I googled for more information. And lo and behold, what I found seems to back him up! Some of the stats claim that, in the U.S. at least, 1 in 4 haven't read a book at ALL in the last year. There was a similar statistic quoted for the UK. Is this in fact true? I find I read 20+ books a year. Granted it's a lot of Sci-Fi, but still, to not read, at all? I can't even comprehend that.
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For quite a number of years (since I was curious long ago and started writing down the books I read), I'm consistently hitting 50+ books a year, and that is just for enjoyment and doesn't count all the books that I read for work and technical material, articles and the like. Like many others have stated, I don't understand how people can NOT read, but I guess it takes all types.
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When I was commuting 55 miles each way I listened to a lot of books on tape, as well as reading at home. I'm retired now, so I'll scew the curve, but I read about three books @ week - Mostly SF or Detective fiction. The only time in my life when my reading dropped below a book @ week was when I was married and had small kids to watch over. One really cool place to check out is Baen Free Library^ which provides for download a large number of SF e-books that first saw print only a few years ago.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
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That's basically pure Kratman, and I don't know if he fully believes it himself, or just did it to infuriate the left. Tom styles himself as a politcal refugee and defector from the Peoples Republic of Massachusetts and has a truely implacable hatred of the left. If it makes you feel any better about being hoodwinked the text on the cover isn't what John, Tom, and Jim Baen had agreed to in the past. As John's put in in multiple cons it was supposed to say:
The Watch on the Rhine by Tom Kratman
in the universe created by john ringo Yellow Eyes (Tom's Posleen in Panama) doesn't have any single thing as blatant the SS, but dwells enough more heavily on the treason of the left (sold earth out to the darhel for promise of transport off world) to have a similar level of political intensity. It doesn't look like it's going to be as easy to skip though. Several of the main characters from it are also main characters in The Tuloriad, which'll be his 3rd posleen colab. The Tuloriad one doesn't appear to have any attack on human political targets, although Tom apparently is planning to put the Darhel in his sights instead later in the book. It appears that this one is going to be along with Honor of the CLan (Callys War #3) a leadin/major brackground dump into the Eye of the Storm (start of the next series of Mike ONeal Jr books). HotC's manuscript is due in 2 more months and EotS is at 90% and mainly being held because of needing to sync events with it and HotC. Mild spoilers (major events type) for EotS below.: You get to see Mike O'Neal, Jr learn that Cally and Papa survived the war. And that he's got grandkids and step-siblings. You get to see the OTHER types of Himmits. You get to see an enemy that makes fighting the Posleen look boring. You get to watch the Darhel squirm.
Otherwise [Microsoft is] toast in the long term no matter how much money they've got. They would be already if the Linux community didn't have it's head so firmly up it's own command line buffer that it looks like taking 15 years to find the desktop. -- Matthew Faithfull
I got Yellow Eyes as a gift last summer. I enjoyed it a lot. And Daisy Mae is a hoot! (I was a Li'l Abner fan for a long time.) I didn't really have any problem with the politicos selling out the earth to save their hides as I suspect it could/would happen that way on both the left and the right. The junta types down in Panama read pretty true to me as did the Panamanian white hats, although Grandmother was a bit larger than life. Of course I knew that Cally had survived due the Cally's War (I think he should have held that book back only because it does seem to jump ahead in the time-line.) According to rumors, Cally will star in two more books. I've got Choosers of the Slain (from the Ghost series) headed my way now - along with the Disunited States by Turtledove. I do appreciate getting gift cards for Christmas. :)
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
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Which one? When you read Maxome Foe (Into the looking glass #3), pay attention to the characters. :-\
Otherwise [Microsoft is] toast in the long term no matter how much money they've got. They would be already if the Linux community didn't have it's head so firmly up it's own command line buffer that it looks like taking 15 years to find the desktop. -- Matthew Faithfull
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I got Yellow Eyes as a gift last summer. I enjoyed it a lot. And Daisy Mae is a hoot! (I was a Li'l Abner fan for a long time.) I didn't really have any problem with the politicos selling out the earth to save their hides as I suspect it could/would happen that way on both the left and the right. The junta types down in Panama read pretty true to me as did the Panamanian white hats, although Grandmother was a bit larger than life. Of course I knew that Cally had survived due the Cally's War (I think he should have held that book back only because it does seem to jump ahead in the time-line.) According to rumors, Cally will star in two more books. I've got Choosers of the Slain (from the Ghost series) headed my way now - along with the Disunited States by Turtledove. I do appreciate getting gift cards for Christmas. :)
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
Cally does star in two more. Sister Time (#2) came out last month: Michelle's back. And as I said up thread, the third Honor of the CLan is almost complete and due to be turned in two more months. Speaking of which, did you catch the very end of Cally's War? Idid, but alot of people complained that it was too subtle. http://www.webscription.net/p-664-sister-time.aspx[^] Choosers or the Slain is the weakest book in that series. Unto the Breach and A Deeper Blue are both much better. ADB's easily the best of the series, but the very end of UtB is one of the best endings I've ever read. Disunited States was something of a disappointment as well. Not a bad book but something of a letdown compared to the ones before it or the most recent The Gladiator, although the latter has one extreme case of OMFGWTF grade stupidity in the ending.
Otherwise [Microsoft is] toast in the long term no matter how much money they've got. They would be already if the Linux community didn't have it's head so firmly up it's own command line buffer that it looks like taking 15 years to find the desktop. -- Matthew Faithfull
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I was reading a bit about why Stevo thinks the Kindle won't go anywhere: because no one reads (as opposed to the real reason - it sucks and it's a lame device). Which I thought was a typical ridiculous comment from Jobs until I googled for more information. And lo and behold, what I found seems to back him up! Some of the stats claim that, in the U.S. at least, 1 in 4 haven't read a book at ALL in the last year. There was a similar statistic quoted for the UK. Is this in fact true? I find I read 20+ books a year. Granted it's a lot of Sci-Fi, but still, to not read, at all? I can't even comprehend that.
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I got the ebook the earliest date it was out, need to get the HC before I see John at Stellarcon in March.
Otherwise [Microsoft is] toast in the long term no matter how much money they've got. They would be already if the Linux community didn't have it's head so firmly up it's own command line buffer that it looks like taking 15 years to find the desktop. -- Matthew Faithfull
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ROTFL - I know what you mean. My daughter wanted 'one fish two fish red fish blue fish' so often, I can quote most of it. I find I can't get to sleep easily unless I read for a half hour, that's where most of my reading occurs. Watching TV or a computer is the worst thing you can do just before bed.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )
At least now I know I am not the only one who finds it helpful (in order to get to sleep) to read from a good book right before bed. You can tell from reading posts on here, as well as other sites, that many people do not read these days. Just look at the atrocious misspellings and bad grammar that you find (I understand that not all people who post online are native English speakers, and I can forgive those folks for their misspellings and poor grammar). I honestly believe that the more that a person reads, the more that they learn to master the English language. It really irks me to see things like, "do to a problem I had", rather than "due to", and people who don't know the difference between to, too and two, or there, their, and they're, etc. :mad: Whoa. Better stop, or I will be banished to the soapbox! :)
WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.
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Horton Hears a Who, I believe.
Software Zen:
delete this;Yeah, I knew it was wrong as soon as I said it, and I could remember some of the text of the actual book, but not the name. Rather than google it and correct my post, I left it as testament to my moment of stupidity.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )
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At least now I know I am not the only one who finds it helpful (in order to get to sleep) to read from a good book right before bed. You can tell from reading posts on here, as well as other sites, that many people do not read these days. Just look at the atrocious misspellings and bad grammar that you find (I understand that not all people who post online are native English speakers, and I can forgive those folks for their misspellings and poor grammar). I honestly believe that the more that a person reads, the more that they learn to master the English language. It really irks me to see things like, "do to a problem I had", rather than "due to", and people who don't know the difference between to, too and two, or there, their, and they're, etc. :mad: Whoa. Better stop, or I will be banished to the soapbox! :)
WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.
Yeah, my favourite is people who argue in the soapbox and say 'your point is mute'. I guess it is, I mean they typed it, rather than say it, right ?
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )
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I was reading a bit about why Stevo thinks the Kindle won't go anywhere: because no one reads (as opposed to the real reason - it sucks and it's a lame device). Which I thought was a typical ridiculous comment from Jobs until I googled for more information. And lo and behold, what I found seems to back him up! Some of the stats claim that, in the U.S. at least, 1 in 4 haven't read a book at ALL in the last year. There was a similar statistic quoted for the UK. Is this in fact true? I find I read 20+ books a year. Granted it's a lot of Sci-Fi, but still, to not read, at all? I can't even comprehend that.
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It's true in Japan; publishers will rarely print anything more than 150 pages long anymore. More books are being published than ever, and no one's reading them.
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I probably haven't read a book for 5 years. With three young children and long hours at work it's often difficult to find time to eat and sleep, let alone read. Of course, if Dr. Seuss and the like count, I read about 500 books a year.
I also struggle to finish books: I'm only 400 pages into Quicksilver and took 4 months to finish Head First Design Patterns, and that's with only one young child! btw, I'm also a big-time fan of Dr. Suess, the various "Bears" books by the Berenstains' go down a treat, as do most Australiana style children's books...still amazes me that our 2¼ year old can read so many books already! (yeah, I'm guilty of silly proud dad syndrome)
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Let me help you understand why I don't read for fun. Look at all the other activities I can do. Exercise Make Beer Drink Beer Play Video Games Have Quality Time with the wife Kayak Clean my house Cook Eat Play with the dogs Program Surf internet and or masturbate watch a movie Target shoot with my shotgun ride my bike hike smoke something make beef jerky clean my car garden post in the lounge on codeproject There are so many things to do that are more fun than reading. That is why I don't read for fun.
I didn't get any requirements for the signature
ToddHileHoffer wrote:
Surf internet and or masturbate
i like how those two are *almost* synonymous.
ToddHileHoffer wrote:
Exercise
oh yeah, we all exercise... (looks around frantictly, eyes just above the screen..) ericos g.
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I was reading a bit about why Stevo thinks the Kindle won't go anywhere: because no one reads (as opposed to the real reason - it sucks and it's a lame device). Which I thought was a typical ridiculous comment from Jobs until I googled for more information. And lo and behold, what I found seems to back him up! Some of the stats claim that, in the U.S. at least, 1 in 4 haven't read a book at ALL in the last year. There was a similar statistic quoted for the UK. Is this in fact true? I find I read 20+ books a year. Granted it's a lot of Sci-Fi, but still, to not read, at all? I can't even comprehend that.
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I read vociferously, just not books - all the info - history, programming, biotech, news, etc.etc.etc. i need - it's all online Cheers,
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i read 10/year, probably.
You read a lot of short-form writing though, right? Newspapers, articles, op-eds etc.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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ROTFL - I know what you mean. My daughter wanted 'one fish two fish red fish blue fish' so often, I can quote most of it. I find I can't get to sleep easily unless I read for a half hour, that's where most of my reading occurs. Watching TV or a computer is the worst thing you can do just before bed.
Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )
Christian Graus wrote:
I find I can't get to sleep easily unless I read for a half hour
Same here. It is a routine my body and mind knows comes just before sleep. My brain stops buzzing and I relax. Of course sometimes a half hour read ends up being two hours and then waking up the next morning is the problem.
regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:
At least he achieved immortality for a few years.