another nightmare brought to you by "web development" compatibility
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...to develop all web sites for Internet Explorer 3.0.
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blog: TDD - the Aha! | Linkify!| FoldWithUs! | sighistSurely, we should be developing for Mosaic.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
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After reading Microsoft to add a 'super standards' mode to IE 8, i had and idea or maybe you could call it a dream/nightmare. :zzz: I think any one who develops web pages/apps should start posting official looking pages on there sites for older browsers that say... "due to reasons beyond our control on {some agreed upon date, better sooner than later} the internet will no longer support browsers older than {list of current browsers} so you should upgrade as soon as possible." On the the list of current browsers provide links for where to download the browsers. ;) I thinks that would make life a little easier, then we would only have to develop for the current browsers. {some time later...} :^) OK I'm awake now, what a dream it was, though it could never happen. Still just may be cool to try.
it so good. I used to get new terminals to test with that would blow an existing device driver out of the water. You would end up with code that was not only manufacturer and model specific, but also get date and firmware version specific code. :)
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it so good. I used to get new terminals to test with that would blow an existing device driver out of the water. You would end up with code that was not only manufacturer and model specific, but also get date and firmware version specific code. :)
Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] Donate to help Conquer Cancer[^]
Ahh terminals. Back to the good old days of debugging termcap entries. The number of times I spent soldering cables together to link our VT and Wyse terminals into our Unix network. Happy days.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
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After reading Microsoft to add a 'super standards' mode to IE 8, i had and idea or maybe you could call it a dream/nightmare. :zzz: I think any one who develops web pages/apps should start posting official looking pages on there sites for older browsers that say... "due to reasons beyond our control on {some agreed upon date, better sooner than later} the internet will no longer support browsers older than {list of current browsers} so you should upgrade as soon as possible." On the the list of current browsers provide links for where to download the browsers. ;) I thinks that would make life a little easier, then we would only have to develop for the current browsers. {some time later...} :^) OK I'm awake now, what a dream it was, though it could never happen. Still just may be cool to try.
I've been doing xhtml development for minibrowsers in mobile phones and other devices lately. Those devices browsers make the lack of standards in the pc browsers look like supreme conformity by comparison. The WURFL mobile browser capability list has *thousands* of entries on it.
When everyone is a hero no one is a hero.
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I've been doing xhtml development for minibrowsers in mobile phones and other devices lately. Those devices browsers make the lack of standards in the pc browsers look like supreme conformity by comparison. The WURFL mobile browser capability list has *thousands* of entries on it.
When everyone is a hero no one is a hero.
Words, just cannot say how sorry I feel for you...
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Surely, we should be developing for Mosaic.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
Yeah, but does it have a <marquee> tag?
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Words, just cannot say how sorry I feel for you...
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I gave up when I saw that and am taking a lowest common denominator approach and adhering strictly to xhtml basic 1.1 It's actually kind of fun, I've been making fancy web and winform UI's for years for our main app and now I'm going strictly functional and minimalist. At every point in the design I'm imagining someone using a cell phone to access critical information while driving and how to present only the most absolutely critical info in the simplest way possible. It's kind of an art form in itself. Personally I'd prefer that kind of interface at all times but it's amazing how people bitch at you if it's not fancy and colourful enough for them.
When everyone is a hero no one is a hero.
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Surely, we should be developing for Mosaic.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
how about lynx... :-D
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After reading Microsoft to add a 'super standards' mode to IE 8, i had and idea or maybe you could call it a dream/nightmare. :zzz: I think any one who develops web pages/apps should start posting official looking pages on there sites for older browsers that say... "due to reasons beyond our control on {some agreed upon date, better sooner than later} the internet will no longer support browsers older than {list of current browsers} so you should upgrade as soon as possible." On the the list of current browsers provide links for where to download the browsers. ;) I thinks that would make life a little easier, then we would only have to develop for the current browsers. {some time later...} :^) OK I'm awake now, what a dream it was, though it could never happen. Still just may be cool to try.
Try working with a new browser rev coming out every few months, and nobody even pretending to follow any kind of standard. Each release did more to tout the "extensions" then the boring standards stuff. The transition from javascript on forms + java -> layers -> DHTML (holy crap everything is an object) was especially fun.
I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book, only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon
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Try working with a new browser rev coming out every few months, and nobody even pretending to follow any kind of standard. Each release did more to tout the "extensions" then the boring standards stuff. The transition from javascript on forms + java -> layers -> DHTML (holy crap everything is an object) was especially fun.
I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book, only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon
like when IE and Netscape kept trying to outdo each other. Back when you are talking about I was doing graphics processing on a proprietary system {PURUP} and later on the mac, only started web programming around 92. Had to deal with a little of that but internally on a controlled intranet, so not quite as many headaches. On a side note I remember when I had to call into a bbs, which was linked with other bbs boards everything was text. And you still had problems going from one bbs to the next.
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like when IE and Netscape kept trying to outdo each other. Back when you are talking about I was doing graphics processing on a proprietary system {PURUP} and later on the mac, only started web programming around 92. Had to deal with a little of that but internally on a controlled intranet, so not quite as many headaches. On a side note I remember when I had to call into a bbs, which was linked with other bbs boards everything was text. And you still had problems going from one bbs to the next.
frakier wrote:
only started web programming around 92.
I hope you mean '02. :) On a side note I remember when I had to call into a bbs, which was linked with other bbs boards everything was text. And you still had problems going from one bbs to the next. Yours were linked? Fancy. I remember going around and getting the local bbs list and dialing into single modem bbs systems to play daily turn based games. If you dialed in every 2 days it was extra exciting because you could get double the number of moves in one sitting. Now they have halo 3. :|
I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book, only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon
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frakier wrote:
only started web programming around 92.
I hope you mean '02. :) On a side note I remember when I had to call into a bbs, which was linked with other bbs boards everything was text. And you still had problems going from one bbs to the next. Yours were linked? Fancy. I remember going around and getting the local bbs list and dialing into single modem bbs systems to play daily turn based games. If you dialed in every 2 days it was extra exciting because you could get double the number of moves in one sitting. Now they have halo 3. :|
I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book, only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon
Andy Brummer wrote:
I hope you mean '02.
Yeah maybe more like 98 or so my memory is not that great. Some times I have to check two or three time to make sure the front door is locked before I go to bed. Need a upgrade in memory - limited capacity. Only allows for current interests.
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Andy Brummer wrote:
I hope you mean '02.
Yeah maybe more like 98 or so my memory is not that great. Some times I have to check two or three time to make sure the front door is locked before I go to bed. Need a upgrade in memory - limited capacity. Only allows for current interests.
95-98 is much more likely. I didn't even touch a mouse before '91 :-O. That was on my freshman roommates awesome IBM 286 system and windows 3.1. I've been hanging around my wife too long. I can actually reconstruct events in chronological order now. Sometime in the future I might be able to remember when things actually happened.
I can imagine the sinking feeling one would have after ordering my book, only to find a laughably ridiculous theory with demented logic once the book arrives - Mark McCutcheon