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  • I Iain Clarke Warrior Programmer

    My moan is that insist on calling *actual* football soccer. How does one socc? And which nation's game mostly uses Feet? Hmmm... And what's with stopping every few minutes to change the whole set of players? Can't they stand more than a few minutes at a time? That said, when I was studying at Indiana, I never went to see one of their matches. I still regret that now. Iain.

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    phannon86
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    I could go into an in-depth discussion as to why players seem to change so often. But in short different situations require a different type/skill of player and when actually playing, an American football player is flat out 100% sprinting/hitting, whereas in football most of the players on the pitch are merely walking, jogging, or doing a "Dad run" (gotta love Peter Kay). And I totally agree with you when it comes to the names of the sports, I don't fully understand why both sports are called as such is different places and am quite happy to call "soccer" football, and I do. In my opinion the American variety is just the better sport. Each to his own :)

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    • I Iain Clarke Warrior Programmer

      My moan is that insist on calling *actual* football soccer. How does one socc? And which nation's game mostly uses Feet? Hmmm... And what's with stopping every few minutes to change the whole set of players? Can't they stand more than a few minutes at a time? That said, when I was studying at Indiana, I never went to see one of their matches. I still regret that now. Iain.

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      Dalek Dave
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      My moan is calling American Football Football Picking the ball up and running and passing it from hand to hand and throwing it does not justify the name. OK, it is kicked occasionally, but on that basis, hockey could be called football. (Goalies can kick the ball). Why not call it Thuggery Interrupted by Committee Meetings! :-D

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      • I Iain Clarke Warrior Programmer

        My moan is that insist on calling *actual* football soccer. How does one socc? And which nation's game mostly uses Feet? Hmmm... And what's with stopping every few minutes to change the whole set of players? Can't they stand more than a few minutes at a time? That said, when I was studying at Indiana, I never went to see one of their matches. I still regret that now. Iain.

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        Stan Shannon
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        Iain Clarke wrote:

        And what's with stopping every few minutes to change the whole set of players?

        American football is probably one of the most complex sports in the world. An AMerican football team is like a miniature olympic team, with more athletic skills on display than in any sport one could name. A game is sort of like an athletic chess match between two coaches. Each play requires counter-adjustments to the opposing coaches adjustments, ongoing calculated modifications to the playbooks devised for just that particular match, combining various skills at various positions in an attempt to offset the other teams efforts to do the same. It has really evolved into quite a fascinating sport if you give it a chance.

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          Iain Clarke wrote:

          And what's with stopping every few minutes to change the whole set of players?

          American football is probably one of the most complex sports in the world. An AMerican football team is like a miniature olympic team, with more athletic skills on display than in any sport one could name. A game is sort of like an athletic chess match between two coaches. Each play requires counter-adjustments to the opposing coaches adjustments, ongoing calculated modifications to the playbooks devised for just that particular match, combining various skills at various positions in an attempt to offset the other teams efforts to do the same. It has really evolved into quite a fascinating sport if you give it a chance.

          Please excuse my refusal to participate in the suicide of western civilization

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          Thanks for explaining what I was too lazy to do :laugh: A large portion of my old uni friends are fans (as we all played the sport) and I recommend it to anyone else I come across, given the topic of sport arises in conversation. And usually if they take the time to watch it, get into it, they enjoy it. For any Brits interested in University level and Amateur level American football in the UK have a peek at these few sites. All of which are run by the BAFA (British American Football Association) governing body. University/College[^] Amateur[^] GetIntoAmericanFootball.com[^]

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            Iain Clarke wrote:

            My moan is that insist on calling *actual* football soccer. How does one socc?

            I think the word 'soccer' comes from the official name of the world's most popular team sport, which is Association Football.

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            Iain Clarke Warrior Programmer
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            I live and learn! I agree with Dalek Dave though - The merkin version should be called Handball. Now, what about them renaming Rounders to Baseball....? (only stirring) Iain.

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              Iain Clarke wrote:

              And what's with stopping every few minutes to change the whole set of players?

              American football is probably one of the most complex sports in the world. An AMerican football team is like a miniature olympic team, with more athletic skills on display than in any sport one could name. A game is sort of like an athletic chess match between two coaches. Each play requires counter-adjustments to the opposing coaches adjustments, ongoing calculated modifications to the playbooks devised for just that particular match, combining various skills at various positions in an attempt to offset the other teams efforts to do the same. It has really evolved into quite a fascinating sport if you give it a chance.

              Please excuse my refusal to participate in the suicide of western civilization

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              Mustafa Ismail Mustafa
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              Now why on Earth would someone vote you down for explaining the beauty of the sport known as [American] Football I shall never know! Here's a 5 to bring balance back to the force.

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                Iain Clarke wrote:

                And what's with stopping every few minutes to change the whole set of players?

                American football is probably one of the most complex sports in the world. An AMerican football team is like a miniature olympic team, with more athletic skills on display than in any sport one could name. A game is sort of like an athletic chess match between two coaches. Each play requires counter-adjustments to the opposing coaches adjustments, ongoing calculated modifications to the playbooks devised for just that particular match, combining various skills at various positions in an attempt to offset the other teams efforts to do the same. It has really evolved into quite a fascinating sport if you give it a chance.

                Please excuse my refusal to participate in the suicide of western civilization

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                American football could be interesting if the game with the commercials didn't last that long, and if actions were on contrary not that short, they are not long enough so emotions can develop.

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                  American football could be interesting if the game with the commercials didn't last that long, and if actions were on contrary not that short, they are not long enough so emotions can develop.

                  When they kick at your front door How you gonna come? With your hands on your head Or on the trigger of your gun?

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                  K(arl) wrote:

                  and if actions were on contrary not that short

                  Thats because you wrongly assume that the execution of the play (ie, actually moving the ball) is the game itself. Whats going on between the actual execution (well, except for the commercials) is all part of the game.

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                    K(arl) wrote:

                    and if actions were on contrary not that short

                    Thats because you wrongly assume that the execution of the play (ie, actually moving the ball) is the game itself. Whats going on between the actual execution (well, except for the commercials) is all part of the game.

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                    KaRl
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                    You mean all the fake runs and 'hide and seek' games happening before the first pass? A typical action lasts what? 15 to 30 seconds?


                    Where do you expect us to go when the bombs fall?

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                      Cannot wait! Although given the awful field conditions last time, it was a great experience to see the pros at it. What made me laugh was when football (soccer) fans blamed the condition of the pitch on their loss (due to the American footballers tearing it up), funny, I thought the other team usually plays on the same pitch. May as well have moaned that there were markings on the pitch and other players were in the way of the goal :laugh: *Awaits bashing from Americans who hate having a game taken away, and fellow Englishmen calling it rugby for pussies. ;P Clickety[^]

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                      Chris McGlothen
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                      I also am anxiously awaiting this match up. I'll be making the move to Edinburgh in June and will be there for the entire NFL season, but it'll be nice to get at least one game in. If I can get tickets that is :-D


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                      • K KaRl

                        You mean all the fake runs and 'hide and seek' games happening before the first pass? A typical action lasts what? 15 to 30 seconds?


                        Where do you expect us to go when the bombs fall?

                        Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                        Chris McGlothen
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                        K(arl) wrote:

                        A typical action lasts what? 15 to 30 seconds

                        How difficult do you think it would be to try pushing a 300 lb.+ guy around for longer than that? and not only that but these guys do it for 60 minutes, granted not non-stop but there is still a heroic effort that goes into a game/season. IMHO, I think that American Football is the greatest sport on the planet.


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                          K(arl) wrote:

                          A typical action lasts what? 15 to 30 seconds

                          How difficult do you think it would be to try pushing a 300 lb.+ guy around for longer than that? and not only that but these guys do it for 60 minutes, granted not non-stop but there is still a heroic effort that goes into a game/season. IMHO, I think that American Football is the greatest sport on the planet.


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                          KaRl
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                          Never watched a rugby match?

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                            Never watched a rugby match?

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                            Chris McGlothen
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                            Only bits and pieces never a whole match. I get the toughness required to play the game but my mates and I have played football with no pads since I can remember and that's basically the same thing. I do however look forward to expanding my sports viewing/participation when I get across the pond. :-D


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                              Only bits and pieces never a whole match. I get the toughness required to play the game but my mates and I have played football with no pads since I can remember and that's basically the same thing. I do however look forward to expanding my sports viewing/participation when I get across the pond. :-D


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                              KaRl
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                              Don't hesitate, if you like Football you may be interested in Rugby. Same collective fight, longer actions, much less commercials. Very sad this sport is not popular in the US, there would be a real potential. The Us team, the Eagles[^], is not that bad

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                                My moan is calling American Football Football Picking the ball up and running and passing it from hand to hand and throwing it does not justify the name. OK, it is kicked occasionally, but on that basis, hockey could be called football. (Goalies can kick the ball). Why not call it Thuggery Interrupted by Committee Meetings! :-D

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                                Jason Lepack LeppyR64
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                                Hockey isn't played with a ball :D

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                                  Hockey isn't played with a ball :D

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                                  Dalek Dave
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                                  What do you mean

                                  leppyr64 wrote:

                                  Hockey isn't played with a ball

                                  I played hockey for years, and it was always a ball! I was a goalie for the Army, I know what I am talking about! Perhaps you are thinking of an entirely different game? Ice Hockey? :)

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                                    What do you mean

                                    leppyr64 wrote:

                                    Hockey isn't played with a ball

                                    I played hockey for years, and it was always a ball! I was a goalie for the Army, I know what I am talking about! Perhaps you are thinking of an entirely different game? Ice Hockey? :)

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                                    Jason Lepack LeppyR64
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                                    Ah, you're correct. I was mistaken. :D Cheers, eh!

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