Interviewing me will cost you
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There's a circle of Hell reserved for these people. As if interviewing dozens of candidates who are nothing like what they claim on their resume, in an environment where finding good people who simply want to do an honest day's work for an honest day's pay is almost impossible, isn't enough of a burden on employers. I'd be more than happy to pay for an interview, but only if I could fine the interviewee on every false claim they made to get their foot in the door.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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There's a circle of Hell reserved for these people. As if interviewing dozens of candidates who are nothing like what they claim on their resume, in an environment where finding good people who simply want to do an honest day's work for an honest day's pay is almost impossible, isn't enough of a burden on employers. I'd be more than happy to pay for an interview, but only if I could fine the interviewee on every false claim they made to get their foot in the door.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Actually it would be a great system if you could penalize (monetarily) the company that qualified them to interview at your place of business. So long as it went both ways it might actually be a good thing. If it was one sided then I'm going to become a career interviewer. Then I'll be able to answer all the questions here, "Got any suggestions for interview questions...?" Just to think all this evil really started when they began appending a fee to an ATM withdrawal. Now those people deserve their own little place down south for sure!
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There's a circle of Hell reserved for these people. As if interviewing dozens of candidates who are nothing like what they claim on their resume, in an environment where finding good people who simply want to do an honest day's work for an honest day's pay is almost impossible, isn't enough of a burden on employers. I'd be more than happy to pay for an interview, but only if I could fine the interviewee on every false claim they made to get their foot in the door.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
I'd be more than happy to pay for an interview, but only if I could fine the interviewee on every false claim they made to get their foot in the door.
Based on what I understood, that website does not make people lie about their skills. Their idea is that good quality candidates who are fully happy in their current jobs and who have zero plans to change jobs can get paid per interview. No need to lie. No pressure. If they are selected, they simply refuse the offer. Assuming they get paid 250-350 bucks per interview, doing a couple of interviews every week would be a nice side-income. Of course it's completely unethical and only a jerk would want to participate in this sort of thing.
Regards, Nish
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Chris Maunder wrote:
I'd be more than happy to pay for an interview, but only if I could fine the interviewee on every false claim they made to get their foot in the door.
Based on what I understood, that website does not make people lie about their skills. Their idea is that good quality candidates who are fully happy in their current jobs and who have zero plans to change jobs can get paid per interview. No need to lie. No pressure. If they are selected, they simply refuse the offer. Assuming they get paid 250-350 bucks per interview, doing a couple of interviews every week would be a nice side-income. Of course it's completely unethical and only a jerk would want to participate in this sort of thing.
Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com linkNishant Sivakumar wrote:
that website does not make people lie about their skills
I'm not suggesting they do. I've done enough interviews to realise interviewees can embelish the truth perfectly well on their own ;)
Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
Their idea is that good quality candidates who are fully happy in their current jobs and who have zero plans to change jobs can get paid per interview. No need to lie. No pressure. If they are selected, they simply refuse the offer
That's obscene. X|
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
that website does not make people lie about their skills
I'm not suggesting they do. I've done enough interviews to realise interviewees can embelish the truth perfectly well on their own ;)
Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
Their idea is that good quality candidates who are fully happy in their current jobs and who have zero plans to change jobs can get paid per interview. No need to lie. No pressure. If they are selected, they simply refuse the offer
That's obscene. X|
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
That's obscene.
I agree. If you need to burn up $250 just send it to me. :laugh:
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
that website does not make people lie about their skills
I'm not suggesting they do. I've done enough interviews to realise interviewees can embelish the truth perfectly well on their own ;)
Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
Their idea is that good quality candidates who are fully happy in their current jobs and who have zero plans to change jobs can get paid per interview. No need to lie. No pressure. If they are selected, they simply refuse the offer
That's obscene. X|
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
I've done enough interviews to realise interviewees can embelish the truth perfectly well on their own
:-D
Regards, Nish
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Chris Maunder wrote:
That's obscene.
I agree. If you need to burn up $250 just send it to me. :laugh:
Speaking of which, how're the home front issues going Rex? Still being hounded by your bank?
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I wonder if the speed with which the site loads is an indication of the quality of the devs they represent.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
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Speaking of which, how're the home front issues going Rex? Still being hounded by your bank?
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No. Things are going better. Aside from the RAID screw up that ... :sigh: ... forget it. Yeah, things are going pretty good. I think I have a lot going in positive directions right now and if I can keep all the loose ends from getting tangled up I should land on my feet doing okay. Friday night kind of sucked. My daughter woke up at 11:00 screaming and throwing up. So I run her to the bathroom. We remake her entire bed and lay her back down. The process repeats 3 more times and we are now out of bedding and I'm starting to catch on that maybe this isn't going to get better soon. I grab to throw blankets, one for her and one for me. I take up residence on the floor and she tries to go back to sleep. It's now 5:00AM. This process has been repeating every 30 to 40 minutes since 11:00 and it keeps going that way until 9:00AM. I always pull 'death watch' because I know all the fire drills and can dose the right medicines, perform the right procedures and all that in my sleep. If the crap flies I'm the last guy you want standing. So I got her stable by 9:00 and sleeping. Have you ever seen a wet sock on a super hot day? She was just so wrung out. So I got her comfortable (no events since 7:00AM) and I went off to wake up my wife. At that point we did the "shift-change" I brought her up to speed and I collapsed in a heap in bed. Old habits die hard and I once upon a time disciplined myself to never sleep during the day and it's a habit that's hard to kick. I picked up 4 hours and then marshalled myself out of bed. We drove around picked up a bunch of medicines and some coffees and made the most of the rest of our day. That night I watched Transformers with my son who just went nutty over it so that was a total plus and a nice way to wind out the day. So, in the frying pan as ever but I'll be making the most of it. Every day will count and I'll not give up until there is no breath in my body. That won't be anytime soon I hope so things are looking up. :laugh:
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No. Things are going better. Aside from the RAID screw up that ... :sigh: ... forget it. Yeah, things are going pretty good. I think I have a lot going in positive directions right now and if I can keep all the loose ends from getting tangled up I should land on my feet doing okay. Friday night kind of sucked. My daughter woke up at 11:00 screaming and throwing up. So I run her to the bathroom. We remake her entire bed and lay her back down. The process repeats 3 more times and we are now out of bedding and I'm starting to catch on that maybe this isn't going to get better soon. I grab to throw blankets, one for her and one for me. I take up residence on the floor and she tries to go back to sleep. It's now 5:00AM. This process has been repeating every 30 to 40 minutes since 11:00 and it keeps going that way until 9:00AM. I always pull 'death watch' because I know all the fire drills and can dose the right medicines, perform the right procedures and all that in my sleep. If the crap flies I'm the last guy you want standing. So I got her stable by 9:00 and sleeping. Have you ever seen a wet sock on a super hot day? She was just so wrung out. So I got her comfortable (no events since 7:00AM) and I went off to wake up my wife. At that point we did the "shift-change" I brought her up to speed and I collapsed in a heap in bed. Old habits die hard and I once upon a time disciplined myself to never sleep during the day and it's a habit that's hard to kick. I picked up 4 hours and then marshalled myself out of bed. We drove around picked up a bunch of medicines and some coffees and made the most of the rest of our day. That night I watched Transformers with my son who just went nutty over it so that was a total plus and a nice way to wind out the day. So, in the frying pan as ever but I'll be making the most of it. Every day will count and I'll not give up until there is no breath in my body. That won't be anytime soon I hope so things are looking up. :laugh:
Well, that's a bit good and a bit bad... I followed your RAID issues, so no need to rehash that... I still think that either a) that's why you have insurance, and/or b) it's not your fault anyway (since someone played with the drives). Hopefully your daughter stops chundering for you and it was only some passing bug and not something more severe - it's a horrible situation for all concerned... I had a good weekend - we went to Fraser Island (the world's largest sand island) for 4 days of camping and fun... Was stinking hot, but we got to have a few swims to cool off - there are some sensational freshwater lakes/creeks there...
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Oakman wrote:
I wonder if the speed with which the site loads is an indication of the quality of the devs they represent.
Or just a reflection of how many CPers are lookin' for easy money? :)
Gary
Isn't everyone looking for easy money???
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Well, that's a bit good and a bit bad... I followed your RAID issues, so no need to rehash that... I still think that either a) that's why you have insurance, and/or b) it's not your fault anyway (since someone played with the drives). Hopefully your daughter stops chundering for you and it was only some passing bug and not something more severe - it's a horrible situation for all concerned... I had a good weekend - we went to Fraser Island (the world's largest sand island) for 4 days of camping and fun... Was stinking hot, but we got to have a few swims to cool off - there are some sensational freshwater lakes/creeks there...
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Well it's a balmy 23 degrees F here and that's what I call butt-freezing cold. If we went for a swim it would likely be our last. Forgot to mention that on Saturday night we ordered out (something we never do) and got Italian. After the beyond bizarre day we decided that we all needed a bit of cheer so we let someone else cook, we ate on paper plates and were very un-green but had a nice time. Fettuccine Lasagna Pizza Salad Ravioli Garlic Bread Now you have to understand if you look at our checkbook you'll see that we've maybe eaten out 4 times in the last... 5 or 6 months maybe. When we do eat out we normally split (my wife and I do) and the kids all just order whatever and then pick at each others plates. Watching them eat is like watching hawkers at a flea market. But this time we got the family style dinner for 5 people. 2 adults and the rest kids under 7. So we had food for the next 3 meals. It was great. It was hot food on cold days and it was a welcome feast. ... I have no idea what got a hold of my daughter it left as fast as it came and didn't touch anyone else on it's way out. Very unusual for sure. She has stomach issues and so we'll just chalk it up to that and hope that whatever it was got it's fill and won't be back for 30 years. :-D
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Isn't everyone looking for easy money???
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_Damian S_ wrote:
Isn't everyone looking for easy money???
Evidently, even these guys are. From their T&C, they don't actually pay you :wtf: , the interviewing company (maybe) pays: "21. If You are contacted by a Company on NotchUp and appear for an interview at the request of such Company, the Company will be responsible for paying Your Interview Fee to You within thirty days of such interview. You agree to hold NotchUp harmless for any failure by the Company to pay the Interview Fee. The Interview Fee is the sole responsibility of the Company. Your sole recourse for non-payment of the Interview Fee is to contact the Company."
Gary
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Actually it would be a great system if you could penalize (monetarily) the company that qualified them to interview at your place of business. So long as it went both ways it might actually be a good thing. If it was one sided then I'm going to become a career interviewer. Then I'll be able to answer all the questions here, "Got any suggestions for interview questions...?" Just to think all this evil really started when they began appending a fee to an ATM withdrawal. Now those people deserve their own little place down south for sure!
code-frog wrote:
Just to think all this evil really started when they began appending a fee to an ATM withdrawal
You mean there once wasn't one?
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Chris Maunder wrote:
I've done enough interviews to realise interviewees can embelish the truth perfectly well on their own
:-D
Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com linkWhy do I get the feeling that there's an inside joke here between you and Maunder? :sly:
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Bad Bad Proxy. No doughnuts for it.
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But there are still crazy companies in India which ask you to call them. Small software houses have their HRs give missed calls to candidates and then when they call, they talk. Wouldn't they feel shameless to do that? :mad:
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Chris Maunder wrote:
I'd be more than happy to pay for an interview, but only if I could fine the interviewee on every false claim they made to get their foot in the door.
Based on what I understood, that website does not make people lie about their skills. Their idea is that good quality candidates who are fully happy in their current jobs and who have zero plans to change jobs can get paid per interview. No need to lie. No pressure. If they are selected, they simply refuse the offer. Assuming they get paid 250-350 bucks per interview, doing a couple of interviews every week would be a nice side-income. Of course it's completely unethical and only a jerk would want to participate in this sort of thing.
Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com linkNishant Sivakumar wrote:
Assuming they get paid 250-350 bucks per interview, doing a couple of interviews every week would be a nice side-income.
At least for starters or fresh-grads from college, this should be useful, reinvesting the revenue generated on further exploration of opportunity avenues.
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There's a circle of Hell reserved for these people. As if interviewing dozens of candidates who are nothing like what they claim on their resume, in an environment where finding good people who simply want to do an honest day's work for an honest day's pay is almost impossible, isn't enough of a burden on employers. I'd be more than happy to pay for an interview, but only if I could fine the interviewee on every false claim they made to get their foot in the door.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
interviewing dozens of candidates who are nothing like what they claim on their resume
Unfortunately it works the other way too.. An honest resume might not make it past the recruiters in many companies, or even some technical managers.
Chris Maunder wrote:
finding good people who simply want to do an honest day's work for an honest day's pay is almost impossible
Sigh..