Interviewing me will cost you
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Bad Bad Proxy. No doughnuts for it.
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But there are still crazy companies in India which ask you to call them. Small software houses have their HRs give missed calls to candidates and then when they call, they talk. Wouldn't they feel shameless to do that? :mad:
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Chris Maunder wrote:
I'd be more than happy to pay for an interview, but only if I could fine the interviewee on every false claim they made to get their foot in the door.
Based on what I understood, that website does not make people lie about their skills. Their idea is that good quality candidates who are fully happy in their current jobs and who have zero plans to change jobs can get paid per interview. No need to lie. No pressure. If they are selected, they simply refuse the offer. Assuming they get paid 250-350 bucks per interview, doing a couple of interviews every week would be a nice side-income. Of course it's completely unethical and only a jerk would want to participate in this sort of thing.
Regards, Nish
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My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com linkNishant Sivakumar wrote:
Assuming they get paid 250-350 bucks per interview, doing a couple of interviews every week would be a nice side-income.
At least for starters or fresh-grads from college, this should be useful, reinvesting the revenue generated on further exploration of opportunity avenues.
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A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson -
There's a circle of Hell reserved for these people. As if interviewing dozens of candidates who are nothing like what they claim on their resume, in an environment where finding good people who simply want to do an honest day's work for an honest day's pay is almost impossible, isn't enough of a burden on employers. I'd be more than happy to pay for an interview, but only if I could fine the interviewee on every false claim they made to get their foot in the door.
cheers, Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote:
interviewing dozens of candidates who are nothing like what they claim on their resume
Unfortunately it works the other way too.. An honest resume might not make it past the recruiters in many companies, or even some technical managers.
Chris Maunder wrote:
finding good people who simply want to do an honest day's work for an honest day's pay is almost impossible
Sigh..
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
that website does not make people lie about their skills
I'm not suggesting they do. I've done enough interviews to realise interviewees can embelish the truth perfectly well on their own ;)
Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
Their idea is that good quality candidates who are fully happy in their current jobs and who have zero plans to change jobs can get paid per interview. No need to lie. No pressure. If they are selected, they simply refuse the offer
That's obscene. X|
cheers, Chris Maunder
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In a world where most big corporates seem to use a business model where they tie you into a long term contract and then deliver a service way below what they suggested they would give you, it seems a fantastic idea to be able to get paid handsomely for the opportunity to tell them where to shove their jobs. Pain in the arse for the person whos job it is to fill the position. I think I see a new career opening up infront of me. Russ
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Chris Maunder wrote:
I'd be more than happy to pay for an interview, but only if I could fine the interviewee on every false claim they made to get their foot in the door.
Based on what I understood, that website does not make people lie about their skills. Their idea is that good quality candidates who are fully happy in their current jobs and who have zero plans to change jobs can get paid per interview. No need to lie. No pressure. If they are selected, they simply refuse the offer. Assuming they get paid 250-350 bucks per interview, doing a couple of interviews every week would be a nice side-income. Of course it's completely unethical and only a jerk would want to participate in this sort of thing.
Regards, Nish
Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
My latest book : C++/CLI in Action / Amazon.com linkTo be honest I see no harm here. I've got recommendation from the friend of mine and registered... well... mostly for fun and to see what will happen. :^) I'm absolutely satisfied from my current position. But being open to opportunities I typically do not reject speaking with head hunters. And I come to interview only if I believe that it may work (i.e. that I may fit position and I may like it). ANd I'm typically pretty honest in phone convesrations before (probably because I don't like to waste my time). So, if someone is ready to pay some hundreds buchs to meet me and try to hire me - go ahead. ;P I also interviewed many people (and 70% of them were not even close to what they write in CV). But is there ANYTHING in our life that is not misused (by mistake or by purpose)? Regards Vladimir
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code-frog wrote:
Just to think all this evil really started when they began appending a fee to an ATM withdrawal
You mean there once wasn't one?
Does this happen even for on-us transactions? On-us transactions are ALWAYS free in India. Foreign transactions MAY be charged, but quite a few banks have tie-ups with a few other banks, so tx on those banks' ATMs are free as well.
Cheers, Vikram.
"I will put my new found knolage to good use" - Captain See Sharp. "Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed." - Gary Wheeler.
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Does this happen even for on-us transactions? On-us transactions are ALWAYS free in India. Foreign transactions MAY be charged, but quite a few banks have tie-ups with a few other banks, so tx on those banks' ATMs are free as well.
Cheers, Vikram.
"I will put my new found knolage to good use" - Captain See Sharp. "Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed." - Gary Wheeler.
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
with a few other banks, so tx on those banks' ATMs are free as well
Very few. Most of the transactions are charged nowadays. All banks in India have brought something like 'Saral Savings' where only a few transactions (just for name sake) are free and rest are charged with hefty amount. And Citibank is truly Cheating Bank in India. It is enough to lick out all the money in the Savings Account. :mad:
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Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
with a few other banks, so tx on those banks' ATMs are free as well
Very few. Most of the transactions are charged nowadays. All banks in India have brought something like 'Saral Savings' where only a few transactions (just for name sake) are free and rest are charged with hefty amount. And Citibank is truly Cheating Bank in India. It is enough to lick out all the money in the Savings Account. :mad:
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A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis LevinsonWhoa, I have an account with Citi. Mind telling me what's wrong with them so I can move my money elsewhere if needed?
Cheers, Vikram.
"I will put my new found knolage to good use" - Captain See Sharp. "Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed." - Gary Wheeler.
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There's a circle of Hell reserved for these people. As if interviewing dozens of candidates who are nothing like what they claim on their resume, in an environment where finding good people who simply want to do an honest day's work for an honest day's pay is almost impossible, isn't enough of a burden on employers. I'd be more than happy to pay for an interview, but only if I could fine the interviewee on every false claim they made to get their foot in the door.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
but only if I could fine the interviewee on every false claim they made to get their foot in the door.
Not a bad idea, but then you run into arbitration based on if the claim was really false. An employer could just as easily get angry at someone who didn't accept and offer and file a false claim that they misrepresented themselves. Perhaps a eBay-like feedback system where after an accepted interview, the employer can rate the person based on various factors. You can still end up with unfair feedback, but if everyone has to rate you, that would be statistically low. But that also raises another issue. If I have a high feedback rating on interviews I've done for pay, that means I've done a lot of interviews - so I'm not likely to accept your job offer, just your money to talk to me. I find it amazing that some bizarre ideas take off while other good ideas falter. I wonder how they'll do.
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Actually it would be a great system if you could penalize (monetarily) the company that qualified them to interview at your place of business. So long as it went both ways it might actually be a good thing. If it was one sided then I'm going to become a career interviewer. Then I'll be able to answer all the questions here, "Got any suggestions for interview questions...?" Just to think all this evil really started when they began appending a fee to an ATM withdrawal. Now those people deserve their own little place down south for sure!
code-frog wrote:
Just to think all this evil really started when they began appending a fee to an ATM withdrawal. Now those people deserve their own little place down south for sure!
I just opened a checking account with charles schwab bank. Since they don't have a national ATM network of their own, they offer full refunds to use anyone elses. The account's new enough I'm not sure if it's instant or an end of the month refund (probably in the stack of paperwork they sent me two days ago). Also 4% interest an no fees. :cool: :jig: :cool:
Otherwise [Microsoft is] toast in the long term no matter how much money they've got. They would be already if the Linux community didn't have it's head so firmly up it's own command line buffer that it looks like taking 15 years to find the desktop. -- Matthew Faithfull
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Whoa, I have an account with Citi. Mind telling me what's wrong with them so I can move my money elsewhere if needed?
Cheers, Vikram.
"I will put my new found knolage to good use" - Captain See Sharp. "Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed." - Gary Wheeler.
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
elsewhere
I would actually suggest a nationalized bank like State Bank of India. People feel SBI staff are arrogant. Those days are bygone. Nowadays, SBI is like more friendly and committed to the customers and the nation.
Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:
Mind telling me what's wrong with them
A quick glimpse across your favorite search engines would bring in pile of information on these private booty banks and how they are attempting in every possible way moving coins in all directions to sabotage a constructive nation-building effort. They are just oriented towards profit-making and customer-care is tertiary or far less than that.
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Well it's a balmy 23 degrees F here and that's what I call butt-freezing cold. If we went for a swim it would likely be our last. Forgot to mention that on Saturday night we ordered out (something we never do) and got Italian. After the beyond bizarre day we decided that we all needed a bit of cheer so we let someone else cook, we ate on paper plates and were very un-green but had a nice time. Fettuccine Lasagna Pizza Salad Ravioli Garlic Bread Now you have to understand if you look at our checkbook you'll see that we've maybe eaten out 4 times in the last... 5 or 6 months maybe. When we do eat out we normally split (my wife and I do) and the kids all just order whatever and then pick at each others plates. Watching them eat is like watching hawkers at a flea market. But this time we got the family style dinner for 5 people. 2 adults and the rest kids under 7. So we had food for the next 3 meals. It was great. It was hot food on cold days and it was a welcome feast. ... I have no idea what got a hold of my daughter it left as fast as it came and didn't touch anyone else on it's way out. Very unusual for sure. She has stomach issues and so we'll just chalk it up to that and hope that whatever it was got it's fill and won't be back for 30 years. :-D
code-frog wrote:
Well it's a balmy 23 degrees F here and that's what I call butt-freezing cold. If we went for a swim it would likely be our last.
Sounds positively tropical! I just drove to work in -34 Celsius (that's -51 with the wind). All told, that's equivalent to minus 60 in Farenheit. Yuck! Still, I'll take bitter cold and no sick kids, any day. I've been through my fair share of that, and I wish you the best of luck.
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code-frog wrote:
Well it's a balmy 23 degrees F here and that's what I call butt-freezing cold. If we went for a swim it would likely be our last.
Sounds positively tropical! I just drove to work in -34 Celsius (that's -51 with the wind). All told, that's equivalent to minus 60 in Farenheit. Yuck! Still, I'll take bitter cold and no sick kids, any day. I've been through my fair share of that, and I wish you the best of luck.
Whoa. Cold! :omg:
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code-frog wrote:
Just to think all this evil really started when they began appending a fee to an ATM withdrawal. Now those people deserve their own little place down south for sure!
I just opened a checking account with charles schwab bank. Since they don't have a national ATM network of their own, they offer full refunds to use anyone elses. The account's new enough I'm not sure if it's instant or an end of the month refund (probably in the stack of paperwork they sent me two days ago). Also 4% interest an no fees. :cool: :jig: :cool:
Otherwise [Microsoft is] toast in the long term no matter how much money they've got. They would be already if the Linux community didn't have it's head so firmly up it's own command line buffer that it looks like taking 15 years to find the desktop. -- Matthew Faithfull
Lucky! You! Nice! Deal! :laugh:
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code-frog wrote:
Just to think all this evil really started when they began appending a fee to an ATM withdrawal
You mean there once wasn't one?
Yeah. The fees showed up in the early 90's I think.
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Lucky! You! Nice! Deal! :laugh:
yeah. Almost seems too good to be true. The lure appears to be that they're hoping that since you have to sign up for their (free) brokerage account as well that if at some point in the future I decide to play the stock market I'll use their account instead of spending 15m filling out someone else's web forms. If they're the cheapest at the time they might even be right. :rolleyes: Edit: on the limitation front I can't deposit cash into the account and think I might need to mail deposits instead of feeding them to an ATM (otherwise why the free envelopes), but my credit union account can still cover cashing rebates, etc if needed.
Otherwise [Microsoft is] toast in the long term no matter how much money they've got. They would be already if the Linux community didn't have it's head so firmly up it's own command line buffer that it looks like taking 15 years to find the desktop. -- Matthew Faithfull