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  • A Ashley van Gerven

    Does anyone else find connecting USB devices just a little bit annoying? Just by glancing at it you can't easily discern which way to plug it in - just trial and error. And sometimes you try and plug it in the right way, but it doesn't seem to fit right away (maybe it's just an inferior design on my PC case), so I assume it's the wrong way, and it should just be easy! Personally I find it way too fiddly, and I just find it hard to believe that by now they haven't come up with something that little bit more user-friendly for something so common.

    "For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza

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    i wanna buy one of those usb-powered missile launchers

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      Ashley van Gerven wrote:

      Does anyone else find connecting USB devices just a little bit annoying? Just by glancing at it you can't easily discern which way to plug it in - just trial and error. And sometimes you try and plug it in the right way, but it doesn't seem to fit right away (maybe it's just an inferior design on my PC case), so I assume it's the wrong way, and it should just be easy! Personally I find it way too fiddly, and I just find it hard to believe that by now they haven't come up with something that little bit more user-friendly for something so common.

      Jesus Ashley, I'm way older than you, very short sighted, colour blind and drink like a fish and I have absolutely no problem getting any and all of my and my customers USB thingies plugged in. Maybe you need to start drinking more, you know it makes you smarter don't you? It kills off brain cells but it is all the slow ones that go first. You made a pretty good start at the Sydney get together (out drinking Maunder though gives no one bragging rights) so you just have to keep on keeping on.

      Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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      Michael Martin wrote:

      out drinking Maunder though gives no one bragging rights

      So how many was that? 2? 3?

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      • A Ashley van Gerven

        Does anyone else find connecting USB devices just a little bit annoying? Just by glancing at it you can't easily discern which way to plug it in - just trial and error. And sometimes you try and plug it in the right way, but it doesn't seem to fit right away (maybe it's just an inferior design on my PC case), so I assume it's the wrong way, and it should just be easy! Personally I find it way too fiddly, and I just find it hard to believe that by now they haven't come up with something that little bit more user-friendly for something so common.

        "For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza

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        Except for the orientation, which could be improved, if only by markings, I've never experienced a problem.

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        • A Ashley van Gerven

          Does anyone else find connecting USB devices just a little bit annoying? Just by glancing at it you can't easily discern which way to plug it in - just trial and error. And sometimes you try and plug it in the right way, but it doesn't seem to fit right away (maybe it's just an inferior design on my PC case), so I assume it's the wrong way, and it should just be easy! Personally I find it way too fiddly, and I just find it hard to believe that by now they haven't come up with something that little bit more user-friendly for something so common.

          "For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza

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          SimulationofSai
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          In general, most USB wires have the USB symbol etched on top of the correct side. If you're using USB pen drives, it'll have the manufacturer name/logo etched on top of the correct side. This may not be true in all cases, but was true in all of the USB devices I've used so far.

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            i wanna buy one of those usb-powered missile launchers

            I am a SysAdmin, I battle my own daemons.

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            Rohde
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            My colleague has one. It can be pretty annoying being deep in a debugging session and then suddenly this plastic/foam missile flies in your ear. :laugh:


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            -Atlas Shrugged, Ayn Rand

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            • A Ashley van Gerven

              Does anyone else find connecting USB devices just a little bit annoying? Just by glancing at it you can't easily discern which way to plug it in - just trial and error. And sometimes you try and plug it in the right way, but it doesn't seem to fit right away (maybe it's just an inferior design on my PC case), so I assume it's the wrong way, and it should just be easy! Personally I find it way too fiddly, and I just find it hard to believe that by now they haven't come up with something that little bit more user-friendly for something so common.

              "For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza

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              My biggest Gripe with USB - the plug design is quite substandard, especially with the goals they had in mind. Also I wouldn't mind symmetric plugs...

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                The device detection can be fiddly too. It's always amusing when you move a device to a different port and Windows "rediscovers" it. And then there's the scenario where the device locks up but moving it to another port magically gets it working. And have you ever looked at the USB protocol? Ewww. After reading the protocol, I threw out my USB hubs. This is not something where you want to hang a lot of devices on one controller. Gotta love the master channel "hey all, I'm here, oops, just stepped on somebody else, hey all, I'm HERE, oops." Or the polling process for regular data "hey dude, it's your turn to send something". "Oh cool, ooh, wait a sec, hold on, yup, coming up, here it is...splat!!!" :rolleyes: Marc

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                We sell a custom USB-connected device, and I have to say it's ugly, but not bad. With some care you get it rock solid on both sides. Worst problem are the mass-produced cheapo substandard hubs.

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                  Ashley van Gerven wrote:

                  Does anyone else find connecting USB devices just a little bit annoying? Just by glancing at it you can't easily discern which way to plug it in - just trial and error. And sometimes you try and plug it in the right way, but it doesn't seem to fit right away (maybe it's just an inferior design on my PC case), so I assume it's the wrong way, and it should just be easy! Personally I find it way too fiddly, and I just find it hard to believe that by now they haven't come up with something that little bit more user-friendly for something so common.

                  Jesus Ashley, I'm way older than you, very short sighted, colour blind and drink like a fish and I have absolutely no problem getting any and all of my and my customers USB thingies plugged in. Maybe you need to start drinking more, you know it makes you smarter don't you? It kills off brain cells but it is all the slow ones that go first. You made a pretty good start at the Sydney get together (out drinking Maunder though gives no one bragging rights) so you just have to keep on keeping on.

                  Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                  Ashley van Gerven
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                  I have absolutely no problem

                  Yeah well, when you're drunk, taking exceptionally long to perform a simple task actually seems bloody funny, so of course you don't see it as a problem! ;P

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                  so you just have to keep on keeping on

                  I'll have to note that down under the "Wise words from Mick" section :)

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                  • B Brady Kelly

                    Except for the orientation, which could be improved, if only by markings, I've never experienced a problem.

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                    Ashley van Gerven
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                    Yep, the orientation is my main issue. Especially when you're reaching behind your case and you can't really see what's going on.

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                    • B Brady Kelly

                      Except for the orientation, which could be improved, if only by markings, I've never experienced a problem.

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                      LordXentris
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                      Ok, Except for the orientation everything seems to be alright with USB devices. But I got used to the orientation part.

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                        My biggest Gripe with USB - the plug design is quite substandard, especially with the goals they had in mind. Also I wouldn't mind symmetric plugs...

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                        agree; I hope with symmetric you mean with respect to upside-down as well as inversion (gender-neutral)

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                          In general, most USB wires have the USB symbol etched on top of the correct side. If you're using USB pen drives, it'll have the manufacturer name/logo etched on top of the correct side. This may not be true in all cases, but was true in all of the USB devices I've used so far.

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                          Many computers/devices have vertical USB sockets. This makes the matter even worse!

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                          • J Jim Crafton

                            Michael Martin wrote:

                            out drinking Maunder though gives no one bragging rights

                            So how many was that? 2? 3?

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                            Jim Crafton wrote:

                            So how many was that? 2? 3?

                            Two, then he took off like he shit himself, closely followed by Josh Gray, Ashley van Gerven then kept me company for another two hours and several beers.

                            Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                            • A Ashley van Gerven

                              Does anyone else find connecting USB devices just a little bit annoying? Just by glancing at it you can't easily discern which way to plug it in - just trial and error. And sometimes you try and plug it in the right way, but it doesn't seem to fit right away (maybe it's just an inferior design on my PC case), so I assume it's the wrong way, and it should just be easy! Personally I find it way too fiddly, and I just find it hard to believe that by now they haven't come up with something that little bit more user-friendly for something so common.

                              "For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza

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                              Ashley van Gerven wrote:

                              Forum: The Lounge Subject: USB is just too fiddly Sender: Ashley van Gerven Date: Thursday, January 31, 2008 4:59:00 PM Does anyone else find connecting USB devices just a little bit annoying? Just by glancing at it you can't easily discern which way to plug it in - just trial and error. And sometimes you try and plug it in the right way, but it doesn't seem to fit right away (maybe it's just an inferior design on my PC case), so I assume it's the wrong way, and it should just be easy! Personally I find it way too fiddly, and I just find it hard to believe that by now they haven't come up with something that little bit more user-friendly for something so common.

                              I think you should use the old serial ports, it is very easy to plug-in. Now if you are going to like how it works, now that is another matter.

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                                Except for the orientation, which could be improved, if only by markings, I've never experienced a problem.

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                                Orientation is the only issue I've had at work, mostly due to my computer being under my desk -- and it is pitch black under there. I was using the hub on my monitor for things like thumb drives, but the hub now causes a BSOD on boot-up, so I have to leave it unplugged. Overall, though, USB 2.0 is just fine for me.

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                                • A Ashley van Gerven

                                  Does anyone else find connecting USB devices just a little bit annoying? Just by glancing at it you can't easily discern which way to plug it in - just trial and error. And sometimes you try and plug it in the right way, but it doesn't seem to fit right away (maybe it's just an inferior design on my PC case), so I assume it's the wrong way, and it should just be easy! Personally I find it way too fiddly, and I just find it hard to believe that by now they haven't come up with something that little bit more user-friendly for something so common.

                                  "For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza

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                                  No offence mate, but you seem REALLY bad with computers! I mean, how old are you? 15? 16? Seriously have you NOT NOTICED the "USB logo" on every plug on the "top" side of it? Once you notice it, you don't even have to look at the plug. You can feel it with your fingers! How hard can that be? Sheesh... P.S. Hope that helped 90% of you and you learned sth new :P

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                                    My colleague has one. It can be pretty annoying being deep in a debugging session and then suddenly this plastic/foam missile flies in your ear. :laugh:


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                                    -Atlas Shrugged, Ayn Rand

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                                    Sounds like time to return fire. With a rock.

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                                    • A Ashley van Gerven

                                      Does anyone else find connecting USB devices just a little bit annoying? Just by glancing at it you can't easily discern which way to plug it in - just trial and error. And sometimes you try and plug it in the right way, but it doesn't seem to fit right away (maybe it's just an inferior design on my PC case), so I assume it's the wrong way, and it should just be easy! Personally I find it way too fiddly, and I just find it hard to believe that by now they haven't come up with something that little bit more user-friendly for something so common.

                                      "For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza

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                                      So what do you suggest? A cleverly adapted kind of induction over distances - like bluetooth, but both ways with power (com'n you use induction to charge your toothbrush, so why not, eh?) Or what, i kind of appreciate every manufacturer embracing USB, but you can't get those big plugs in the little sockets can you (no innuendo intended...!)

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                                      • A Ashley van Gerven

                                        Does anyone else find connecting USB devices just a little bit annoying? Just by glancing at it you can't easily discern which way to plug it in - just trial and error. And sometimes you try and plug it in the right way, but it doesn't seem to fit right away (maybe it's just an inferior design on my PC case), so I assume it's the wrong way, and it should just be easy! Personally I find it way too fiddly, and I just find it hard to believe that by now they haven't come up with something that little bit more user-friendly for something so common.

                                        "For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza

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                                        David Horner
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                                        I would agree that USB feels a bit finicky. Esp. removable disks. I always seem to have trouble when removing them..... I'm trying to add some functionality to an existing code project usb ejector to allow people to easily see which files on the device are open... (though I'm still trying to figure out open handles in managed code) Anyways more info: http://dave.thehorners.com/content/view/339/126/[^] THanks, Dave

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                                        • K koos4ever

                                          agree; I hope with symmetric you mean with respect to upside-down as well as inversion (gender-neutral)

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                                          symmetric = at least a cable with the same plugs on both ends. For "how you plug it in", either somethng that is obvious when grabbing the cable (host link is worst), or something that doesn't matter how it's plugged in.

                                          We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
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