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Churchill was a myth, Sherlock Holmes was real, and Charles Dickens is a work of fiction

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    Patrick Etc
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    Among other insane things that apparently large sections of Britain believe[^] One question: HOW?!?! WHAT?!?! Damn, that's two questions. Wait, no, I got it: the second question is a work of fiction and didn't really exist.


    It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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      Among other insane things that apparently large sections of Britain believe[^] One question: HOW?!?! WHAT?!?! Damn, that's two questions. Wait, no, I got it: the second question is a work of fiction and didn't really exist.


      It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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      I dread to think where they got the 3000 people to survey, and how many toes they had.

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        Among other insane things that apparently large sections of Britain believe[^] One question: HOW?!?! WHAT?!?! Damn, that's two questions. Wait, no, I got it: the second question is a work of fiction and didn't really exist.


        It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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        Don't be so shocked... how do you think I feel? :P

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          Among other insane things that apparently large sections of Britain believe[^] One question: HOW?!?! WHAT?!?! Damn, that's two questions. Wait, no, I got it: the second question is a work of fiction and didn't really exist.


          It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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          Vikram A Punathambekar
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          First, I'm not sure if 3000 is large enough a sample for a country of ~60m people. :~ The 3% that think Dickens is a work of fiction can be written off as nutjobs, or just people without a literary bent. That nearly a quarter think Gandhi and Churchill are myths is definitely cause for worry. :suss:

          Cheers, Vikram.


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            Among other insane things that apparently large sections of Britain believe[^] One question: HOW?!?! WHAT?!?! Damn, that's two questions. Wait, no, I got it: the second question is a work of fiction and didn't really exist.


            It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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            Having been amongst the younger people who have started work here and experiencing their general "knowledge" I am not surprised at all. One wonders what they actualy teach children at school these days. I went to my daughter's school evening where we were told what choices there are for their GCSE exams (age 16). One subject had two levels, Level 1 is aiming at grade D-G! I was horrified! This is, to all intents and purposes, a fail. Level 2 is A-C. So the school is encouraging pupils to "aim for a successful failure". I was speechless (which is a rare event for me :) )

            I still remember having to write your own code in FORTRAN rather than be a cut and paste merchant being pampered by colour coded Intellisense - ahh proper programming - those were the days :)

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              Among other insane things that apparently large sections of Britain believe[^] One question: HOW?!?! WHAT?!?! Damn, that's two questions. Wait, no, I got it: the second question is a work of fiction and didn't really exist.


              It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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              Jorgen Sigvardsson
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              I'd like to see a British Jay-Walking episode... :~

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                Among other insane things that apparently large sections of Britain believe[^] One question: HOW?!?! WHAT?!?! Damn, that's two questions. Wait, no, I got it: the second question is a work of fiction and didn't really exist.


                It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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                Patrick Sears wrote:

                Among other insane things that apparently large sections of Britain believe[^]

                About 30% still believe in man made global warming. Believeing Elvis works in a chippy in Bolton is no less fanciful.

                Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                  Among other insane things that apparently large sections of Britain believe[^] One question: HOW?!?! WHAT?!?! Damn, that's two questions. Wait, no, I got it: the second question is a work of fiction and didn't really exist.


                  It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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                  There are people who think we went to the moon, others who still think Elvis is Dead and some who even believe that the Gulf War had nothing to do with oil. I personally believe that Robin Hood existed, I have seen all his films. Winston Churchill was invented by Clement Atlee in order to win the war and John Cleese was funny once. I know others think I may be mad, but honestly there was this one scene in a Monty Python where Cleese was hilarious. :)

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                    There are people who think we went to the moon, others who still think Elvis is Dead and some who even believe that the Gulf War had nothing to do with oil. I personally believe that Robin Hood existed, I have seen all his films. Winston Churchill was invented by Clement Atlee in order to win the war and John Cleese was funny once. I know others think I may be mad, but honestly there was this one scene in a Monty Python where Cleese was hilarious. :)

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                    Dalek Dave wrote:

                    there was this one scene in a Monty Python where Cleese was hilarious.

                    Doubtful: Monty Python was NEVER funny. 'At Last The 1948 Show' was far better. So I've been told. By older people. Much older people. I know a kid with a Geography degree. Couldn't tell me the capital of Wales. We're just educating them to use iPods, nothing ore cos the teachers are just as thick.

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                      Dalek Dave wrote:

                      there was this one scene in a Monty Python where Cleese was hilarious.

                      Doubtful: Monty Python was NEVER funny. 'At Last The 1948 Show' was far better. So I've been told. By older people. Much older people. I know a kid with a Geography degree. Couldn't tell me the capital of Wales. We're just educating them to use iPods, nothing ore cos the teachers are just as thick.

                      bin the spin home

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                      digital man wrote:

                      I know a kid with a Geography degree. Couldn't tell me the capital of Wales.

                      For a bonus point. WHEN did it become the capital of Wales?

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                        digital man wrote:

                        I know a kid with a Geography degree. Couldn't tell me the capital of Wales.

                        For a bonus point. WHEN did it become the capital of Wales?

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                        Shortly after W became a letter?

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                          Patrick Sears wrote:

                          Among other insane things that apparently large sections of Britain believe[^]

                          About 30% still believe in man made global warming. Believeing Elvis works in a chippy in Bolton is no less fanciful.

                          Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                          fat_boy wrote:

                          About 30% still believe in man made global warming.

                          About 89.154% of all statistics are "made-up" at the time of argument.

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                            Having been amongst the younger people who have started work here and experiencing their general "knowledge" I am not surprised at all. One wonders what they actualy teach children at school these days. I went to my daughter's school evening where we were told what choices there are for their GCSE exams (age 16). One subject had two levels, Level 1 is aiming at grade D-G! I was horrified! This is, to all intents and purposes, a fail. Level 2 is A-C. So the school is encouraging pupils to "aim for a successful failure". I was speechless (which is a rare event for me :) )

                            I still remember having to write your own code in FORTRAN rather than be a cut and paste merchant being pampered by colour coded Intellisense - ahh proper programming - those were the days :)

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                            Baconbutty wrote:

                            daughter's school

                            Is this the norm in your town or are they on special measures? My youngest is at a Mathematics and Sciences Technology College and their aim is A to C grade with a target of A* for each pupil. Whereas my oldest, some years ago, was at a Council run school who were in special measures and didn't appear to care what, if anything, was learned, they have since improved but not to Technology College excellence.

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                              Baconbutty wrote:

                              daughter's school

                              Is this the norm in your town or are they on special measures? My youngest is at a Mathematics and Sciences Technology College and their aim is A to C grade with a target of A* for each pupil. Whereas my oldest, some years ago, was at a Council run school who were in special measures and didn't appear to care what, if anything, was learned, they have since improved but not to Technology College excellence.

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                              Our school is a Technology School. Most of the subjects are "proper subjects" but it was just this one that staggered me. Seems like the Govt are using us as a pilot for some madcap scheme. Thanks!

                              I still remember having to write your own code in FORTRAN rather than be a cut and paste merchant being pampered by colour coded Intellisense - ahh proper programming - those were the days :)

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                                fat_boy wrote:

                                About 30% still believe in man made global warming.

                                About 89.154% of all statistics are "made-up" at the time of argument.

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                                Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                                About 89.154% of all statistics are "made-up" at the time of argument.

                                They're only statistics if the other person uses them. They're facts when you do.

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                                  First, I'm not sure if 3000 is large enough a sample for a country of ~60m people. :~ The 3% that think Dickens is a work of fiction can be written off as nutjobs, or just people without a literary bent. That nearly a quarter think Gandhi and Churchill are myths is definitely cause for worry. :suss:

                                  Cheers, Vikram.


                                  "I will put my new found knolage to good use" - Captain See Sharp. "Every time Lotus Notes starts up, somewhere a puppy, a kitten, a lamb, and a baby seal are killed." - Gary Wheeler.

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                                  Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                                  That nearly a quarter think Gandhi and Churchill are myths

                                  I'd almost rather that than my step son was taught in private school. Gandhi was a mass murderer about equal in scope to Hitler.

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                                    Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                                    That nearly a quarter think Gandhi and Churchill are myths

                                    I'd almost rather that than my step son was taught in private school. Gandhi was a mass murderer about equal in scope to Hitler.

                                    _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                    :wtf: If you're not being facetious could you give some sort of citation/explanation for that statement?

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                                      Vikram A Punathambekar wrote:

                                      That nearly a quarter think Gandhi and Churchill are myths

                                      I'd almost rather that than my step son was taught in private school. Gandhi was a mass murderer about equal in scope to Hitler.

                                      _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                                      Vikram A Punathambekar
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                                      Please tell me you forgot to use the joke icon. Please. Gandhi? Somebody who, literally, did not hurt a fly? Did they get him mixed up with somebody else from the subcontinent? Even Jinnah wasn't on the scale of Hitler.

                                      Cheers, Vikram.


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                                        Patrick Sears wrote:

                                        Among other insane things that apparently large sections of Britain believe[^]

                                        About 30% still believe in man made global warming. Believeing Elvis works in a chippy in Bolton is no less fanciful.

                                        Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                                        First of all, :zzz: Second of all, there's a wide difference between debating an issue whose science is not settled, and debating whether someone of whom there are thousands of pictures and recorded speeches, existed.


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                                          There are people who think we went to the moon, others who still think Elvis is Dead and some who even believe that the Gulf War had nothing to do with oil. I personally believe that Robin Hood existed, I have seen all his films. Winston Churchill was invented by Clement Atlee in order to win the war and John Cleese was funny once. I know others think I may be mad, but honestly there was this one scene in a Monty Python where Cleese was hilarious. :)

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                                          Dalek Dave wrote:

                                          but honestly there was this one scene in a Monty Python where Cleese was hilarious.

                                          :~ I find Monty Python to be hilarious.. from which side of the pond do you hail?


                                          It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein

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