Coming to America
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Ok I know you all "hate" America, but would you ever consider coming here to work? How much would someone have to pay you in order for you to accept a job here? I know people like CG think there are alot of looneys with guns here but I know even he has his price. So what's your position on this?
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Ok I know you all "hate" America, but would you ever consider coming here to work? How much would someone have to pay you in order for you to accept a job here? I know people like CG think there are alot of looneys with guns here but I know even he has his price. So what's your position on this?
Martin Marvinski wrote: Ok I know you all "hate" America We don't have America, we hate Americans - how can one hate a piece of land? ;P Martin Marvinski wrote: what's your position on this? The only way I will ever move from where I am at the moment is if I believe I can get a better standard of life somewhere else, and even then there are a lot of serious boundaries such as friends and family, etc. Quite frankly America just doesn't offer this to me, so I have no reason to even consider moving.
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
I could have created a cool signature brought to life with complex interactive DHTML, but I don't like to show off.
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Ok I know you all "hate" America, but would you ever consider coming here to work? How much would someone have to pay you in order for you to accept a job here? I know people like CG think there are alot of looneys with guns here but I know even he has his price. So what's your position on this?
We don't hate you, neither really nor in quot marks. Rather, this is our way to show that we do care. Wouldn't for money. I mean, perhaps "say a sum and be serious" could make me move, but there's nothing that tempts me now. Oh, and it would have to be close to either the canadian or mexican border.
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Martin Marvinski wrote: Ok I know you all "hate" America We don't have America, we hate Americans - how can one hate a piece of land? ;P Martin Marvinski wrote: what's your position on this? The only way I will ever move from where I am at the moment is if I believe I can get a better standard of life somewhere else, and even then there are a lot of serious boundaries such as friends and family, etc. Quite frankly America just doesn't offer this to me, so I have no reason to even consider moving.
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
I could have created a cool signature brought to life with complex interactive DHTML, but I don't like to show off.
David Wulff wrote: The only way I will ever move from where I am at the moment is if I believe I can get a better standard of life somewhere else What if by coming to America you could have your own house, broadband internet that you could use 24/7 (No British Telecoms here), a fancy car, and other great things, would you do it then? David Wulff wrote: We don't have America, we hate Americans Then you hate the world because Americans by definition are from everywhere. :)
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Ok I know you all "hate" America, but would you ever consider coming here to work? How much would someone have to pay you in order for you to accept a job here? I know people like CG think there are alot of looneys with guns here but I know even he has his price. So what's your position on this?
Well, I already live here and I'm probably one of the looneys with guns, but hey, I'm always open to more money! How much are you offering? :-D Chistopher Duncan Author - The Career Programmer: Guerilla Tactics for an Imperfect World (Apress)
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Ok I know you all "hate" America, but would you ever consider coming here to work? How much would someone have to pay you in order for you to accept a job here? I know people like CG think there are alot of looneys with guns here but I know even he has his price. So what's your position on this?
Martin Marvinski wrote: So what's your position on this? Stop trolling, is my position. Martin Marvinski wrote: there are a lot of looneys with guns here I am *so* tempted to quote you on this. For the record, if I was motivated purely by money, I could double my income in a second by moving to the mainland. However, I would certainly like to visit the US sometime, and I'm sure that it has about as many looneys as Australia ( although ours are less likely to be armed ), and also it's fair share of nice places to live. I know from CP it has a good share of cool people as well. Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002
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David Wulff wrote: The only way I will ever move from where I am at the moment is if I believe I can get a better standard of life somewhere else What if by coming to America you could have your own house, broadband internet that you could use 24/7 (No British Telecoms here), a fancy car, and other great things, would you do it then? David Wulff wrote: We don't have America, we hate Americans Then you hate the world because Americans by definition are from everywhere. :)
Martin Marvinski wrote: What if by coming to America you could have your own house Yeah Dave - c'mon. They don't have HOUSES in the UK !!! Martin Marvinski wrote: a fancy car, and other great things, Get with the program Dave. That horse and cart you use is old fashioned. Plus, you need to realise that your life is defined by STUFF, not by anything else. And we all know that they only have cool STUFF in the USA. Man, the Internet is slow on my ZX81. What are you using ? Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002
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Martin Marvinski wrote: So what's your position on this? Stop trolling, is my position. Martin Marvinski wrote: there are a lot of looneys with guns here I am *so* tempted to quote you on this. For the record, if I was motivated purely by money, I could double my income in a second by moving to the mainland. However, I would certainly like to visit the US sometime, and I'm sure that it has about as many looneys as Australia ( although ours are less likely to be armed ), and also it's fair share of nice places to live. I know from CP it has a good share of cool people as well. Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002
Christian Graus wrote: Stop trolling, is my position. I wasn't trolling, I just know you have very intresting opinions on a variety of topics. Christian Graus wrote: I am *so* tempted to quote you on this. Go ahead, I don't care.. It's not like my name is Alex. :) Christian Graus wrote: , I would certainly like to visit the US sometime Then why wouldn't you like to move here? What's the difference between visiting and living here (besides going back to your country)?
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Martin Marvinski wrote: What if by coming to America you could have your own house Yeah Dave - c'mon. They don't have HOUSES in the UK !!! Martin Marvinski wrote: a fancy car, and other great things, Get with the program Dave. That horse and cart you use is old fashioned. Plus, you need to realise that your life is defined by STUFF, not by anything else. And we all know that they only have cool STUFF in the USA. Man, the Internet is slow on my ZX81. What are you using ? Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002
Christian Graus wrote: Yeah Dave - c'mon. They don't have HOUSES in the UK !!! Christian, David still lives at home. If he were here he could live on his own in a house he could purchase. Christian Graus wrote: Plus, you need to realise that your life is defined by STUFF, not by anything else. So CG, tell me about your new computer...
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Martin Marvinski wrote: Ok I know you all "hate" America We don't have America, we hate Americans - how can one hate a piece of land? ;P Martin Marvinski wrote: what's your position on this? The only way I will ever move from where I am at the moment is if I believe I can get a better standard of life somewhere else, and even then there are a lot of serious boundaries such as friends and family, etc. Quite frankly America just doesn't offer this to me, so I have no reason to even consider moving.
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
I could have created a cool signature brought to life with complex interactive DHTML, but I don't like to show off.
David Wulff wrote: how can one hate a piece of land? Well, there's this little bit outside the parking lot where i work, it dips down *just* enough that if i'm going too fast while leaving, i'll scrape the underside of my car on it. Yeah, i know, i should learn to be tolerant of it, and appreciate the good it does, such as discouraging people from speeding into the daycare next door, but i just can't. Hate can be a very irrational thing sometimes...
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Christian Graus wrote: Stop trolling, is my position. I wasn't trolling, I just know you have very intresting opinions on a variety of topics. Christian Graus wrote: I am *so* tempted to quote you on this. Go ahead, I don't care.. It's not like my name is Alex. :) Christian Graus wrote: , I would certainly like to visit the US sometime Then why wouldn't you like to move here? What's the difference between visiting and living here (besides going back to your country)?
Martin Marvinski wrote: I wasn't trolling, I just know you have very intresting opinions on a variety of topics. Maybe you should consider that the sort of responses you get to a question will vary according to how you ask it. 'I know you all hate Americans but everyone has a price' is not the way to generate meaninful discussion. Martin Marvinski wrote: Go ahead, I don't care.. What I meant was that I could create a quote that completely twisted your original meaning :) Martin Marvinski wrote: Then why wouldn't you like to move here? What's the difference between visiting and living here (besides going back to your country)? What's the difference between food and poison, except that one kills you ? Going home IS the difference. I'd love to see the USA, and I'm sure if I was born there, I'd love living there. I can only surmise from your question that your life is devoid of meaningful relationships. I could not leave the family I have here, nor would I want to disrupt my childrens lives so thoroughly. If where I lived sucked I would, but as it stands we are settled here. Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002
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Christian Graus wrote: Yeah Dave - c'mon. They don't have HOUSES in the UK !!! Christian, David still lives at home. If he were here he could live on his own in a house he could purchase. Christian Graus wrote: Plus, you need to realise that your life is defined by STUFF, not by anything else. So CG, tell me about your new computer...
Martin Marvinski wrote: If he were here he could live on his own in a house he could purchase. You're saying that housing is cheap in the USA ? Martin Marvinski wrote: So CG, tell me about your new computer... It's a P4, and it's way cool. I just don't define my life by such things. That doesn't mean I live in a cave, just that it's not the measure of my success in life. Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002
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David Wulff wrote: The only way I will ever move from where I am at the moment is if I believe I can get a better standard of life somewhere else What if by coming to America you could have your own house, broadband internet that you could use 24/7 (No British Telecoms here), a fancy car, and other great things, would you do it then? David Wulff wrote: We don't have America, we hate Americans Then you hate the world because Americans by definition are from everywhere. :)
Martin Marvinski wrote: What if by coming to America you could have your own house, broadband internet that you could use 24/7 (No British Telecoms here), a fancy car, and other great things, would you do it then? But Martin, I can get all of those things and anything else you can think of here in Britian. There is just no reason to move stateside - in fact there are compelling reasons not to considering the differences between our societies. Don't feel too bad - someone had to get the short straw. :-D Martin Marvinski wrote: Then you hate the world because Americans by definition are from everywhere Don't pick holes in my logic! Okay then, if you insist... let's see if you really have changes since you became a member... I dislike the strongly-American approach to, quite simply, what is right, what is wrong and what is acceptable; the assumptions that are made on others' behalf and the general attitude you convey both to yourselves and to others; the intollerance of extremes and even the pettiest of oppositions; the way you prefer to lie to yourselves than face the truth; and finally I dislike the way you interfere with international relations that quite simply do not concern you - well maybe financially - and whine and bitch if another power tries to do the same to you. Being a modern super-civilisation, I'd have thought you'd have learnt from the mistakes we have both made in the past centuries, and for a nation with a large proportion of it's citizens reportedly believing in a single divine being, you really should realise that you are not a god. In attitude. * Note that I said "strongly-American approach to" for a reason. As you said, Americans as a rule of thumb are as normal as you or I. On second thoughts... ;P The problem with America is that is is essentially a room full of individual pubescent countries that are trying to play nice together, while being told when they can go out and play by a super-power that simply cannot control them all effectively. If you were to be given true freedom, you would revert to anachy and wipe yourselves out for the pettiest of reasons. ---- I say "in your face". You say "up yours" Well, what goes up must come down - and *that* is a certainty.
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
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Martin Marvinski wrote: If he were here he could live on his own in a house he could purchase. You're saying that housing is cheap in the USA ? Martin Marvinski wrote: So CG, tell me about your new computer... It's a P4, and it's way cool. I just don't define my life by such things. That doesn't mean I live in a cave, just that it's not the measure of my success in life. Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002
You're saying that housing is cheap in the USA ? Yes and no. Totally depends on where you want to live. Tim Smith I know what you're thinking punk, you're thinking did he spell check this document? Well, to tell you the truth I kinda forgot myself in all this excitement. But being this here's CodeProject, the most powerful forums in the world and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question, Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk?
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Christian Graus wrote: Yeah Dave - c'mon. They don't have HOUSES in the UK !!! Christian, David still lives at home. If he were here he could live on his own in a house he could purchase. Christian Graus wrote: Plus, you need to realise that your life is defined by STUFF, not by anything else. So CG, tell me about your new computer...
Martin Marvinski wrote: If he were here he could live on his own in a house he could purchase If I really had the urge to move away from my cut rate four star hotel accomodation, I would lease a house with my mates; however, I don't. I like where I live - it is central to my life and everything that makes it good.
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
I could have created a cool signature brought to life with complex interactive DHTML, but I don't like to show off.
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You're saying that housing is cheap in the USA ? Yes and no. Totally depends on where you want to live. Tim Smith I know what you're thinking punk, you're thinking did he spell check this document? Well, to tell you the truth I kinda forgot myself in all this excitement. But being this here's CodeProject, the most powerful forums in the world and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question, Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk?
Ditto.
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
I could have created a cool signature brought to life with complex interactive DHTML, but I don't like to show off.
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Ok I know you all "hate" America, but would you ever consider coming here to work? How much would someone have to pay you in order for you to accept a job here? I know people like CG think there are alot of looneys with guns here but I know even he has his price. So what's your position on this?
Too late Martin. I've already applied for an immigration visa to move from Australia to the states. Of course, the fact that my wife is American and my step-kids are also American might have something to do with this decision :-) Rob Manderson http://www.mindprobes.net
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You're saying that housing is cheap in the USA ? Yes and no. Totally depends on where you want to live. Tim Smith I know what you're thinking punk, you're thinking did he spell check this document? Well, to tell you the truth I kinda forgot myself in all this excitement. But being this here's CodeProject, the most powerful forums in the world and would blow your head clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question, Do I feel lucky? Well do ya punk?
Tim Smith wrote: Totally depends on where you want to live. Which is exactly the same as here, and exactly what I would expect. Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002
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Martin Marvinski wrote: What if by coming to America you could have your own house, broadband internet that you could use 24/7 (No British Telecoms here), a fancy car, and other great things, would you do it then? But Martin, I can get all of those things and anything else you can think of here in Britian. There is just no reason to move stateside - in fact there are compelling reasons not to considering the differences between our societies. Don't feel too bad - someone had to get the short straw. :-D Martin Marvinski wrote: Then you hate the world because Americans by definition are from everywhere Don't pick holes in my logic! Okay then, if you insist... let's see if you really have changes since you became a member... I dislike the strongly-American approach to, quite simply, what is right, what is wrong and what is acceptable; the assumptions that are made on others' behalf and the general attitude you convey both to yourselves and to others; the intollerance of extremes and even the pettiest of oppositions; the way you prefer to lie to yourselves than face the truth; and finally I dislike the way you interfere with international relations that quite simply do not concern you - well maybe financially - and whine and bitch if another power tries to do the same to you. Being a modern super-civilisation, I'd have thought you'd have learnt from the mistakes we have both made in the past centuries, and for a nation with a large proportion of it's citizens reportedly believing in a single divine being, you really should realise that you are not a god. In attitude. * Note that I said "strongly-American approach to" for a reason. As you said, Americans as a rule of thumb are as normal as you or I. On second thoughts... ;P The problem with America is that is is essentially a room full of individual pubescent countries that are trying to play nice together, while being told when they can go out and play by a super-power that simply cannot control them all effectively. If you were to be given true freedom, you would revert to anachy and wipe yourselves out for the pettiest of reasons. ---- I say "in your face". You say "up yours" Well, what goes up must come down - and *that* is a certainty.
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
and i really hate the way you think you can lump 280 million people into whatever package fits whatever point you're trying to make. David Wulff wrote: Well, what goes up must come down - and *that* is a certainty. as the British Empire has been proving nicely, for the past 100 years. -c
Being just contaminates the void.
--Robyn HitchcockImage Processing - easy, like Sunday morning.
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and i really hate the way you think you can lump 280 million people into whatever package fits whatever point you're trying to make. David Wulff wrote: Well, what goes up must come down - and *that* is a certainty. as the British Empire has been proving nicely, for the past 100 years. -c
Being just contaminates the void.
--Robyn HitchcockImage Processing - easy, like Sunday morning.
Hey Chris, did you read any of that? :confused: How many times can I say I am not talking about the, you say, 280 million people, nor trying to fit anyone into any package? Chris Losinger wrote: as the British Empire has been proving nicely, for the past 100 years Er, yes, which is also the same example I gave in my text. This response has been a prime example of what I was talking about. :suss:
David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk
I could have created a cool signature brought to life with complex interactive DHTML, but I don't like to show off.