Recruiters got crazy!!
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Have a look on this funny job ad: http://it.seek.com.au/users/apply/index.ascx?Sequence=47&PageNumber=1&JobID=11808875[^] They are looking for a developer with 3 years experience in Silverlight :) Those recruitment companies just suck! It seems like everyone who's out of work out there is starting a recruitment company. They are multiplying like crazy and they know nothing about IT or computers, they are just so unqualified to judge anybody's computer skills. I don't know how those companies that use their services count on them -- they are most probably more ignorant than them. I've been searching for a job lately and in every cover letter I asked them to have a look on my website, whenever they called me I asked them if they had a look on my website and the answer was always no! they just don't give a damn, they just want to get paid that's all, if you're unqualified and they can convince the customer that you are they would, they just don't care! If I had a company myself I'd never use the services of such recruitment companies, they are so unreliable!
Waleed Eissa Software Developer Sydney
Waleed Eissa wrote:
They are looking for a developer with 3 years experience in Silverlight
Since many recruiters don't know any better, they just regurgitate what their client says they want. So, it would seem that the client is an idiot too.
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Have a look on this funny job ad: http://it.seek.com.au/users/apply/index.ascx?Sequence=47&PageNumber=1&JobID=11808875[^] They are looking for a developer with 3 years experience in Silverlight :) Those recruitment companies just suck! It seems like everyone who's out of work out there is starting a recruitment company. They are multiplying like crazy and they know nothing about IT or computers, they are just so unqualified to judge anybody's computer skills. I don't know how those companies that use their services count on them -- they are most probably more ignorant than them. I've been searching for a job lately and in every cover letter I asked them to have a look on my website, whenever they called me I asked them if they had a look on my website and the answer was always no! they just don't give a damn, they just want to get paid that's all, if you're unqualified and they can convince the customer that you are they would, they just don't care! If I had a company myself I'd never use the services of such recruitment companies, they are so unreliable!
Waleed Eissa Software Developer Sydney
Waleed Eissa wrote:
They are looking for a developer with 3 years experience in Silverlight
With my fellow worker here not even knowing what it is when I spoke about it last week, it seems this will be a very interesting job. Best regards, Paul.
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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Have a look on this funny job ad: http://it.seek.com.au/users/apply/index.ascx?Sequence=47&PageNumber=1&JobID=11808875[^] They are looking for a developer with 3 years experience in Silverlight :) Those recruitment companies just suck! It seems like everyone who's out of work out there is starting a recruitment company. They are multiplying like crazy and they know nothing about IT or computers, they are just so unqualified to judge anybody's computer skills. I don't know how those companies that use their services count on them -- they are most probably more ignorant than them. I've been searching for a job lately and in every cover letter I asked them to have a look on my website, whenever they called me I asked them if they had a look on my website and the answer was always no! they just don't give a damn, they just want to get paid that's all, if you're unqualified and they can convince the customer that you are they would, they just don't care! If I had a company myself I'd never use the services of such recruitment companies, they are so unreliable!
Waleed Eissa Software Developer Sydney
I got annoyed with an agent last week and sent her my stock reply: Remove me from your list: you're obviously far too lazy to bother to take even a cursory glance at my CV which would have told you, amongst other things, that this is quite clearly an inappropriate role to send to me which means that you are not professional in your approach or attitude. If you feel that this is harsh then you come and trawl through the 100 odd emails a day I get from agents that haven't got a clue. and she replied that she would have to go through 500,000 CVs/Resumes a day. Once I stopped laughing I sent her one more mail saying that there are not that many contractors in the whole of Europe, never mind the UK! No wonder there is such a high turnover of staff in agencies.
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Waleed Eissa wrote:
They are looking for a developer with 3 years experience in Silverlight
Since many recruiters don't know any better, they just regurgitate what their client says they want. So, it would seem that the client is an idiot too.
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Ah Colin! You ought to have stopped at regurgitate. They do that and just that.
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Waleed Eissa wrote:
They are looking for a developer with 3 years experience in Silverlight
Since many recruiters don't know any better, they just regurgitate what their client says they want. So, it would seem that the client is an idiot too.
Upcoming FREE developer events: * Developer Day Scotland Recent blog posts: * Different ways to add point data in SQL Server 2008 * Spatial References in SQL Server 2008 My website |
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I got annoyed with an agent last week and sent her my stock reply: Remove me from your list: you're obviously far too lazy to bother to take even a cursory glance at my CV which would have told you, amongst other things, that this is quite clearly an inappropriate role to send to me which means that you are not professional in your approach or attitude. If you feel that this is harsh then you come and trawl through the 100 odd emails a day I get from agents that haven't got a clue. and she replied that she would have to go through 500,000 CVs/Resumes a day. Once I stopped laughing I sent her one more mail saying that there are not that many contractors in the whole of Europe, never mind the UK! No wonder there is such a high turnover of staff in agencies.
I've had mixed experiences, I've had some recruiters who were great, knew what they were doing and found me some cracking jobs, I've also had some awful ones. The worst seem to be those in the south east of the UK, one had never heard of one of the counties I was looking for work in. Loads of keep offering me jobs down in the south east, I always reply asking if they read the cover sheet on my CV, thats a question that they can have no good answer to since the cover sheet explicitly says where I'll work and it explicitly excludes the south east.
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Have a look on this funny job ad: http://it.seek.com.au/users/apply/index.ascx?Sequence=47&PageNumber=1&JobID=11808875[^] They are looking for a developer with 3 years experience in Silverlight :) Those recruitment companies just suck! It seems like everyone who's out of work out there is starting a recruitment company. They are multiplying like crazy and they know nothing about IT or computers, they are just so unqualified to judge anybody's computer skills. I don't know how those companies that use their services count on them -- they are most probably more ignorant than them. I've been searching for a job lately and in every cover letter I asked them to have a look on my website, whenever they called me I asked them if they had a look on my website and the answer was always no! they just don't give a damn, they just want to get paid that's all, if you're unqualified and they can convince the customer that you are they would, they just don't care! If I had a company myself I'd never use the services of such recruitment companies, they are so unreliable!
Waleed Eissa Software Developer Sydney
Waleed Eissa wrote:
They are looking for a developer with 3 years experience in Silverlight
As mentioned it is sometimes the customer that passes on this BS. But the main problem is sometimes you have two points of failure possible: A) the customer HR dept which "translates" the wishes of the department into a "job opening" and B) a head-hunting agency that knows no more than the HR (and you could think of as a brain-dead HR -- how's that for frightening image). So 3 years experience in .Net with some Silverlight experience can easily get shortened to "3 years experience with Silverlight". One reason HR only approves our own ads, not that it helps too much, we're overworked enough to make mistakes too. But when you start putting other hands in the pot, you only increase the chance of silly mistakes such as this because no one other than a technical oriented position would even understand the ad. So passing on something that no one really understands is a big chance for silly failures.
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I've had mixed experiences, I've had some recruiters who were great, knew what they were doing and found me some cracking jobs, I've also had some awful ones. The worst seem to be those in the south east of the UK, one had never heard of one of the counties I was looking for work in. Loads of keep offering me jobs down in the south east, I always reply asking if they read the cover sheet on my CV, thats a question that they can have no good answer to since the cover sheet explicitly says where I'll work and it explicitly excludes the south east.
Yup, I have the same thing: my CV is very explicit in that it states, quite clearly, where I want to work. As I said to my own agent after he took me to lunch, "You're parasitic scum". He laughed as he took out his Centurion card to pay...
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Waleed Eissa wrote:
They are looking for a developer with 3 years experience in Silverlight
Since many recruiters don't know any better, they just regurgitate what their client says they want. So, it would seem that the client is an idiot too.
Upcoming FREE developer events: * Developer Day Scotland Recent blog posts: * Different ways to add point data in SQL Server 2008 * Spatial References in SQL Server 2008 My website |
Their client probably said they wanted someone who knew how to use silverlight - and three years experience was the agency's end result.
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Yup, I have the same thing: my CV is very explicit in that it states, quite clearly, where I want to work. As I said to my own agent after he took me to lunch, "You're parasitic scum". He laughed as he took out his Centurion card to pay...
digital man wrote:
"You're parasitic scum".
I once had an agent (a good friend) introduce himself at a client meeting as my pimp. The client replied: I know that we are dickering over the price and wether or not I'll have herpes in the morning".
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH