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    Guys, I'm having a small problem here. My résumé was available on the internet in doc format for a very long time. Whenever I had to access it I could pass down the url. I didn't use metadata or anything, it was for private use. A while ago google apparently changed something in their search robot, because if you type my name now in google you can access my résumé. I'm currently not looking so after a few phone calls I removed my résumé. However, google has made a copy of my doc format in html which is still viewable (after several weeks!) Does anyone know of a way to remove this or do I need to start praying to whatever God that Google will remove this by themselves? (what would be the timeframe they do this?) Do you think it would be a solution to put the document back and make it empty eg.? Is it even legal to make a copy of something without the consent of the document owner? ESPECIALLY, when that person has removed that document? The phone calls are really annoying and I never intended this stuff to go this public... :sigh:. (PS: I know, putting it on the www is asking for it, I just figured, without meta-data what's the harm, guess I found out the hard way :doh: )

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      Guys, I'm having a small problem here. My résumé was available on the internet in doc format for a very long time. Whenever I had to access it I could pass down the url. I didn't use metadata or anything, it was for private use. A while ago google apparently changed something in their search robot, because if you type my name now in google you can access my résumé. I'm currently not looking so after a few phone calls I removed my résumé. However, google has made a copy of my doc format in html which is still viewable (after several weeks!) Does anyone know of a way to remove this or do I need to start praying to whatever God that Google will remove this by themselves? (what would be the timeframe they do this?) Do you think it would be a solution to put the document back and make it empty eg.? Is it even legal to make a copy of something without the consent of the document owner? ESPECIALLY, when that person has removed that document? The phone calls are really annoying and I never intended this stuff to go this public... :sigh:. (PS: I know, putting it on the www is asking for it, I just figured, without meta-data what's the harm, guess I found out the hard way :doh: )

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      Sign up for Webmaster tools on Google for your site then put in a request to have the document removed. Alterantively replace the page that was your resume with a page that returns a 404 and when next Google tries to index it will remove it. Oh, and since it was on the web once, it's always on the web.

      cheers, Chris Maunder

      CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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        Guys, I'm having a small problem here. My résumé was available on the internet in doc format for a very long time. Whenever I had to access it I could pass down the url. I didn't use metadata or anything, it was for private use. A while ago google apparently changed something in their search robot, because if you type my name now in google you can access my résumé. I'm currently not looking so after a few phone calls I removed my résumé. However, google has made a copy of my doc format in html which is still viewable (after several weeks!) Does anyone know of a way to remove this or do I need to start praying to whatever God that Google will remove this by themselves? (what would be the timeframe they do this?) Do you think it would be a solution to put the document back and make it empty eg.? Is it even legal to make a copy of something without the consent of the document owner? ESPECIALLY, when that person has removed that document? The phone calls are really annoying and I never intended this stuff to go this public... :sigh:. (PS: I know, putting it on the www is asking for it, I just figured, without meta-data what's the harm, guess I found out the hard way :doh: )

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        Check out http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/topic.py?topic=8459[^]

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          Sign up for Webmaster tools on Google for your site then put in a request to have the document removed. Alterantively replace the page that was your resume with a page that returns a 404 and when next Google tries to index it will remove it. Oh, and since it was on the web once, it's always on the web.

          cheers, Chris Maunder

          CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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          Chris Maunder wrote:

          Oh, and since it was on the web once, it's always on the web.

          ain't THAT the truth! There are still some old stuff of mine so ancient and horrible that I wish they would go away, and they don't. It didn't even start with google, some people liked my early stuff and passed it around. Why? I don't know... :sigh: but a search on my real name brings up a lot of ancient history.

          _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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            Sign up for Webmaster tools on Google for your site then put in a request to have the document removed. Alterantively replace the page that was your resume with a page that returns a 404 and when next Google tries to index it will remove it. Oh, and since it was on the web once, it's always on the web.

            cheers, Chris Maunder

            CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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            This is quite an interesting problem actually. Everything anybody writes is automatically protected by international copyright law. Which means that in theory Google, or any other search engine which caches web pages, can copy the word document to an html page ONLY if the author authorizes it. Governments and companies are making an awful lot of noise about people downloading mp3s - and what about search engines which create copies of copyrighted documents? Sometimes copyrighted documents are published on web sites because of an agreement between the writer and the publisher, e.g. when a novel writer puts the first chapter of his novel online to advertise his book. The writer has not made any such agreement with Google, so if Google makes a cached copy of it, it is breaking the law. Or at least, that's what I think, but I am not a lawyer. Is there any lawyer here in CP who can give us some advice on the matter?

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              This is quite an interesting problem actually. Everything anybody writes is automatically protected by international copyright law. Which means that in theory Google, or any other search engine which caches web pages, can copy the word document to an html page ONLY if the author authorizes it. Governments and companies are making an awful lot of noise about people downloading mp3s - and what about search engines which create copies of copyrighted documents? Sometimes copyrighted documents are published on web sites because of an agreement between the writer and the publisher, e.g. when a novel writer puts the first chapter of his novel online to advertise his book. The writer has not made any such agreement with Google, so if Google makes a cached copy of it, it is breaking the law. Or at least, that's what I think, but I am not a lawyer. Is there any lawyer here in CP who can give us some advice on the matter?

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              hhexo wrote:

              Which means that in theory Google, or any other search engine which caches web pages, can copy the word document to an html page ONLY if the author authorizes it.

              I read somewhere that one can instruct Google not to cache some of your pages and documents.

              Mostly, when you see programmers, they aren't doing anything. One of the attractive things about programmers is that you cannot tell whether or not they are working simply by looking at them. Very often they're sitting there seemingly drinking coffee and gossiping, or just staring into space. What the programmer is trying to do is get a handle on all the individual and unrelated ideas that are scampering around in his head. (Charles M Strauss)

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                Guys, I'm having a small problem here. My résumé was available on the internet in doc format for a very long time. Whenever I had to access it I could pass down the url. I didn't use metadata or anything, it was for private use. A while ago google apparently changed something in their search robot, because if you type my name now in google you can access my résumé. I'm currently not looking so after a few phone calls I removed my résumé. However, google has made a copy of my doc format in html which is still viewable (after several weeks!) Does anyone know of a way to remove this or do I need to start praying to whatever God that Google will remove this by themselves? (what would be the timeframe they do this?) Do you think it would be a solution to put the document back and make it empty eg.? Is it even legal to make a copy of something without the consent of the document owner? ESPECIALLY, when that person has removed that document? The phone calls are really annoying and I never intended this stuff to go this public... :sigh:. (PS: I know, putting it on the www is asking for it, I just figured, without meta-data what's the harm, guess I found out the hard way :doh: )

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                the robots.txt file can be used to exclude specific files / directories / groups of files from being indexec by the search engines - do a google search on robots.txt for a decsription of the content. One of your normal web pages must have had a link to the resume, so the search engine crawler picked it up.

                Steve

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                  Check out http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/topic.py?topic=8459[^]

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                  Thanks, I tried this, thumbs up it will work ;-).

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                    Sign up for Webmaster tools on Google for your site then put in a request to have the document removed. Alterantively replace the page that was your resume with a page that returns a 404 and when next Google tries to index it will remove it. Oh, and since it was on the web once, it's always on the web.

                    cheers, Chris Maunder

                    CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                    Done, many thanks for the advice... now hoping it works ;-)

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                      hhexo wrote:

                      Which means that in theory Google, or any other search engine which caches web pages, can copy the word document to an html page ONLY if the author authorizes it.

                      I read somewhere that one can instruct Google not to cache some of your pages and documents.

                      Mostly, when you see programmers, they aren't doing anything. One of the attractive things about programmers is that you cannot tell whether or not they are working simply by looking at them. Very often they're sitting there seemingly drinking coffee and gossiping, or just staring into space. What the programmer is trying to do is get a handle on all the individual and unrelated ideas that are scampering around in his head. (Charles M Strauss)

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                      Mladen Jankovic wrote:

                      I read somewhere that one can instruct Google not to cache some of your pages and documents.

                      It should be the other way around. If I want it to appear, tell google it can let it appear.

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