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  • B Brady Kelly

    How does flying stop you cooking good meals at the hotel? Is it the cooking unit? Here is SA we have a number of very comfortable, self-catering hotels, meaning you cook for yourself.

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    Marc Clifton
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    Brady Kelly wrote:

    Here is SA we have a number of very comfortable, self-catering hotels, meaning you cook for yourself.

    You have to pay $150-$300+ a night to get a room with a proper kitchen. The $66/night place the company puts me up in--well, I have to bring my cooking unit. At least there's a fridge (which is really just a small freezer, pretty pathetic), though once I had to refill the cooler (which I brought) with ice every morning. Marc

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      I definitely prefer driving, even a 10-11 hour drive to Ohio as compared to: 45 minutes to airport and hour wait a 1.5 hr flight to Baltimore a 45 minute layover a 2 hour flight to Columbus an hour dealing with disembarking, getting a rental, driving to the hotel 6 hours, exhausted, dehydrated, stressed, deaf, airsick, food poisoned, and infected, then spending 5 days eating garbage for breakfast, lunch and dinner at garbage restaurants. vs. a 90% beautiful scenic drive, listening to a book on CD, stopping at scenic places and taking a walk, bringing my own food and cooking good meals at the hotel on a portable electric unit. Marc

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      Nekosohana
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      lol Marc, that's about right... ... for commercial flights. I work for a private jet company. There is a whole different world on the other side. I did a few series of flights on the aircraft (got really lucky to do so), and it was completely different. Try this instead: Drive from home to the closest regional airport (10 minutes for me). Pull the car up and drop the car off with the valet. Walk to the plane as a lineman takes your bags for you. Talk to the crew for a few minutes, and when you are ready, hop on the plane. 6 seats and no other passengers, pop in a CD, grab a vodka out of the galley and proceed to make your libation of choice. Watch whatever movie you want, or sleep, or read. Fly to within 10 minutes of where you need to be, and your car (or rental, or chauffeur) is waiting at the plane for you when you get off. I've never been envious of the rich until I had that experience.

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        I've never been to the States/Canada, but don't you have trains over there? I'm sure I've seen them on films where you get on for free by riding your horse alongside... Seriously though, you get to see the scenery, snooze, work, read, whatever you like. You'll even add a bit less carbon to the atmosphere while you're at it. Mind you, I've never had anyone rummage my nether regions on a train, so maybe I've got this all wrong... Dan

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        Ravi Bhavnani
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        DaxaDan wrote:

        I've never been to the States/Canada, but don't you have trains over there?

        Yes, but over the years (at least in the US) the railroads have unfortunately been allowed to become less than a viable choice for most travellers. :( /ravi

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          lol Marc, that's about right... ... for commercial flights. I work for a private jet company. There is a whole different world on the other side. I did a few series of flights on the aircraft (got really lucky to do so), and it was completely different. Try this instead: Drive from home to the closest regional airport (10 minutes for me). Pull the car up and drop the car off with the valet. Walk to the plane as a lineman takes your bags for you. Talk to the crew for a few minutes, and when you are ready, hop on the plane. 6 seats and no other passengers, pop in a CD, grab a vodka out of the galley and proceed to make your libation of choice. Watch whatever movie you want, or sleep, or read. Fly to within 10 minutes of where you need to be, and your car (or rental, or chauffeur) is waiting at the plane for you when you get off. I've never been envious of the rich until I had that experience.

          Beginning Programmer - Still learning as much as possible.

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          Marc Clifton
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          Nekosohana wrote:

          Try this instead:

          That would be really nice. :) Marc

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          • M Marc Clifton

            I definitely prefer driving, even a 10-11 hour drive to Ohio as compared to: 45 minutes to airport and hour wait a 1.5 hr flight to Baltimore a 45 minute layover a 2 hour flight to Columbus an hour dealing with disembarking, getting a rental, driving to the hotel 6 hours, exhausted, dehydrated, stressed, deaf, airsick, food poisoned, and infected, then spending 5 days eating garbage for breakfast, lunch and dinner at garbage restaurants. vs. a 90% beautiful scenic drive, listening to a book on CD, stopping at scenic places and taking a walk, bringing my own food and cooking good meals at the hotel on a portable electric unit. Marc

            Thyme In The Country Interacx My Blog

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            No to mention that you could also get deep vein thrombosis while flying. :omg:

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              I've never been to the States/Canada, but don't you have trains over there? I'm sure I've seen them on films where you get on for free by riding your horse alongside... Seriously though, you get to see the scenery, snooze, work, read, whatever you like. You'll even add a bit less carbon to the atmosphere while you're at it. Mind you, I've never had anyone rummage my nether regions on a train, so maybe I've got this all wrong... Dan

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              Dan Neely
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              DaxaDan wrote:

              I've never been to the States/Canada, but don't you have trains over there? I'm sure I've seen them on films where you get on for free by riding your horse alongside...

              yeah. Unfortunately the right of ways were acquired back when you actually could try and stow away doing that. As a result they're often not strait enough or level enough to be safe for trains going more than 20-40mph, which is too slow to be viable as passenger service. The situation is made even more suck by the fact that the rails are owned by the freight companies not Amtrack (passenger). Since amtrak's been loosing money since it was created (by the feds when the rail companies wanted to get rid of their loss making passenger services), it's unable to pay the freight lines to get priority service. Instead amtrak gets put on the sidings while the cargo trains go past. :rolleyes: Here's a complete map of amtrak service. The bits in green are buses not rail. This is the sum and total of remaining long distance passenger rail (some cities have commuter service that also sucks) for the entire US, an area comparable to all of Europe. http://tickets.amtrak.com/secure/content/atlas/index.html[^]

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                No to mention that you could also get deep vein thrombosis while flying. :omg:

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                Dan Neely
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                You're just as much at risk sitting in a car seat without moving for X hours as in a plane seat for X hours. Driving the number of hours at risk is greater. In both cases the way to avoid it is the same don't keep still, shuffle around every once in a while.

                Otherwise [Microsoft is] toast in the long term no matter how much money they've got. They would be already if the Linux community didn't have it's head so firmly up it's own command line buffer that it looks like taking 15 years to find the desktop. -- Matthew Faithfull

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                • M Marc Clifton

                  Drew Stainton wrote:

                  an hour of work while waiting

                  Waiting is mostly standing, which is not conducive to working.

                  Drew Stainton wrote:

                  a 1.5 hr flight (squeeze in a nap or read a good book, drink water)

                  A nap? Surely you jest. Reading a book is doable.

                  Drew Stainton wrote:

                  45 minutes to continue the nap or check email

                  Napping with screaming children, tinny muzac playing and lost security item announcements? You must be a good napper.

                  Drew Stainton wrote:

                  6 hours, rejuvinated.

                  Hardly. :)

                  Drew Stainton wrote:

                  It really doesn't have to be that bad.

                  I don't fly often, and the deafness and ear pain from flying is sufficiently bad that I'm quite happy staying on the ground. Marc

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                  z974647
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                  The airline should have handy little sippy cups of tequila (with a little valium dissolved) to keep those crying kiddies or obnoxious seat mates in line. X|

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                  • D Dan Neely

                    DaxaDan wrote:

                    I've never been to the States/Canada, but don't you have trains over there? I'm sure I've seen them on films where you get on for free by riding your horse alongside...

                    yeah. Unfortunately the right of ways were acquired back when you actually could try and stow away doing that. As a result they're often not strait enough or level enough to be safe for trains going more than 20-40mph, which is too slow to be viable as passenger service. The situation is made even more suck by the fact that the rails are owned by the freight companies not Amtrack (passenger). Since amtrak's been loosing money since it was created (by the feds when the rail companies wanted to get rid of their loss making passenger services), it's unable to pay the freight lines to get priority service. Instead amtrak gets put on the sidings while the cargo trains go past. :rolleyes: Here's a complete map of amtrak service. The bits in green are buses not rail. This is the sum and total of remaining long distance passenger rail (some cities have commuter service that also sucks) for the entire US, an area comparable to all of Europe. http://tickets.amtrak.com/secure/content/atlas/index.html[^]

                    Otherwise [Microsoft is] toast in the long term no matter how much money they've got. They would be already if the Linux community didn't have it's head so firmly up it's own command line buffer that it looks like taking 15 years to find the desktop. -- Matthew Faithfull

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                    z974647
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                    I once drove from the central midwest to Orlando, Florida (about a 2-day drive) where my sister lived. It was a vacation, but my wife and I preferred to drive. The things we saw! The NW Louisiana terrain, the stunning memorials at the Vicksburg Civil War park, camping at Johnson Park in Mississippi and waking up to mist-covered lakes, the ocean at Gulf Port, the impressive battleship and sub docked at Mobile Bay, the lush horse farms around Ocala, and just the general changes in landscape and architecture throughout the deep South. Plus, the folks were all friendly! It was one of the most memorable trips I've ever taken.

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                      Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote:

                      You had to tell me this four days before I get into a ten-hour flight... X|

                      ...is your friend.

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                      Fernando A Gomez F
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                      :laugh: Yeh, already got ready my tequila bottle.

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                      • L Lost User

                        I've never been to the States/Canada, but don't you have trains over there? I'm sure I've seen them on films where you get on for free by riding your horse alongside... Seriously though, you get to see the scenery, snooze, work, read, whatever you like. You'll even add a bit less carbon to the atmosphere while you're at it. Mind you, I've never had anyone rummage my nether regions on a train, so maybe I've got this all wrong... Dan

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                        Lost User
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                        DaxaDan wrote:

                        I've never been to the States/Canada, but don't you have trains over there?

                        Heck ya. In fact, here's[^] the local train :-D (it's a cool ride - the train robbery re-enactment sounds cheesy but it's really well done). I rode the train from where I am to Vancouver twice when I was a kid. Both times the train left at 2:00 am or something and arrived about 10 hours later. It's a 4 hour drive. I haven't taken the train since. It's definitely not like the trains in Europe. Cheers, Drew.

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                        • R Ravi Bhavnani
                          • UK passenger jet pilot dies mid-flight[^]

                          • Dying woman twice refused oxygen on flight[^] Ulp! :omg: /ravi

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                          Erik Funkenbusch
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                          Statistically speaking, Flying is the safest way to die. ;)

                          -- Where are we going? And why am I in this handbasket?

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                            Statistically speaking, Flying is the safest way to die. ;)

                            -- Where are we going? And why am I in this handbasket?

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                            Ravi Bhavnani
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                            Erik Funkenbusch wrote:

                            Statistically speaking, Flying is the safest way to die.

                            Personally, I prefer to die of old age. :) /ravi

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