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  • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

    A marriage is a holy function. It makes a guy unite with a girl in service to the Lord. At least in the Hindu scriptures, there are four stages of life. The first one is 'Brahmacharya', 'Grihasta'. Wedding indicates joining into the second stage of life. The other two stages ('Vanaprastha' and 'Sanyasa') come during older age. I also would like to share an article which speaks about the good facts about marriage and about restricted and religiously-allowed sex habits: www.trsiyengar.com/id46.shtml[^]

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    Rajesh R Subramanian
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    Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

    A marriage is a holy function. It makes a guy unite with a girl in service to the Lord.

    Marriage is in service to the lord? Just WTF VDK? It becomes very difficult to understand you at times.

    Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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    • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

      A marriage is a holy function. It makes a guy unite with a girl in service to the Lord. At least in the Hindu scriptures, there are four stages of life. The first one is 'Brahmacharya', 'Grihasta'. Wedding indicates joining into the second stage of life. The other two stages ('Vanaprastha' and 'Sanyasa') come during older age. I also would like to share an article which speaks about the good facts about marriage and about restricted and religiously-allowed sex habits: www.trsiyengar.com/id46.shtml[^]

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      A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson

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      R Giskard Reventlov
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      What utter nonsense. People get married for all sorts of reasons and they are not always religious in nature and not everyone who gets married is Hindu or even believes in a god. And then the bitch leaves and... oh shit, wrong thread... :laugh:

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      • R Rajesh R Subramanian

        Cosmo Thought wrote:

        I think marriage makes two souls together forever. Five from me....

        Then why do get people divorced? As they get divorced, do their souls too get divorced? One from me...

        Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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        because their love for each other is no more. so they get divorced. And I think marriage is only for that people who can love someone. Not just give and take relationship....

        "Save water,It's precious" :) "Don't forget to vote" ;) ;P ;)

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        • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

          A marriage is a holy function. It makes a guy unite with a girl in service to the Lord. At least in the Hindu scriptures, there are four stages of life. The first one is 'Brahmacharya', 'Grihasta'. Wedding indicates joining into the second stage of life. The other two stages ('Vanaprastha' and 'Sanyasa') come during older age. I also would like to share an article which speaks about the good facts about marriage and about restricted and religiously-allowed sex habits: www.trsiyengar.com/id46.shtml[^]

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          A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson

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          Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

          I also would like to share an article which speaks about the good facts about marriage and about restricted and religiously-allowed sex habits:

          "ONLY FOR CHILDREN - Sex should be used only in marriage for begetting nice, good children. Good children means not rogues and thieves, but one who can understand God. Krsna says in the Bhagavad-Gita that I am sex life performed according to religious principles. Sex life for any other purpose means illicit sex. The use of contraceptive method for sex enjoyment is very sinful." Sorry VDK, but this guy neeeds to be either gagged or shot -- or both.

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          • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

            A marriage is a holy function. It makes a guy unite with a girl in service to the Lord. At least in the Hindu scriptures, there are four stages of life. The first one is 'Brahmacharya', 'Grihasta'. Wedding indicates joining into the second stage of life. The other two stages ('Vanaprastha' and 'Sanyasa') come during older age. I also would like to share an article which speaks about the good facts about marriage and about restricted and religiously-allowed sex habits: www.trsiyengar.com/id46.shtml[^]

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            A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson

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            Jorgen Sigvardsson
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            Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

            A marriage is a holy function.

            Says who?

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            • R Rajesh R Subramanian

              Cosmo Thought wrote:

              I think marriage makes two souls together forever. Five from me....

              Then why do get people divorced? As they get divorced, do their souls too get divorced? One from me...

              Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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              Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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              Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

              Then why do get people divorced?

              Divorce, as I would see, would be just momentary disappointment between the two minds.

              Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

              As they get divorced, do their souls too get divorced?

              Never. At least, within the viewable age of this world, till the last breath of the two, the Love would cherish their names and vice-versa. If you had watched the film ("Chachi 320") or its Tamil remake ("Avvai Shanmughi") there is a scene where Kamalahassan would speak about his life (in the movie) and the divorce that he suffered with the heroine. He used to comment "The law can only physically separate the two people not mentally. I still love her. I am still with her. She only till now has not realised it.". The heroine who was listening to the speech which was actually an interview with a reporter would break into tears because of her momentary disappointments that she nurtured for him.

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                because their love for each other is no more. so they get divorced. And I think marriage is only for that people who can love someone. Not just give and take relationship....

                "Save water,It's precious" :) "Don't forget to vote" ;) ;P ;)

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                Some marriages end in divorce, because those marriages haven't ultimately united those souls. It is not marriage which unites two souls, it is love, which does that. Marriages may have a great role to play in India, but that still is for the society.

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                • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

                  Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                  Then why do get people divorced?

                  Divorce, as I would see, would be just momentary disappointment between the two minds.

                  Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                  As they get divorced, do their souls too get divorced?

                  Never. At least, within the viewable age of this world, till the last breath of the two, the Love would cherish their names and vice-versa. If you had watched the film ("Chachi 320") or its Tamil remake ("Avvai Shanmughi") there is a scene where Kamalahassan would speak about his life (in the movie) and the divorce that he suffered with the heroine. He used to comment "The law can only physically separate the two people not mentally. I still love her. I am still with her. She only till now has not realised it.". The heroine who was listening to the speech which was actually an interview with a reporter would break into tears because of her momentary disappointments that she nurtured for him.

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                  Rajesh R Subramanian
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                  Please avoid answering sarcastic questions in great detail. :)

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                  • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                    Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

                    A marriage is a holy function. It makes a guy unite with a girl in service to the Lord.

                    Marriage is in service to the lord? Just WTF VDK? It becomes very difficult to understand you at times.

                    Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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                    Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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                    Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                    Marriage is in service to the lord?

                    Did you check this URL? http://www.trsiyengar.com/id46.shtml[^]

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                    • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

                      Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                      Marriage is in service to the lord?

                      Did you check this URL? http://www.trsiyengar.com/id46.shtml[^]

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                      I did.

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                      • R Rajesh R Subramanian

                        Some marriages end in divorce, because those marriages haven't ultimately united those souls. It is not marriage which unites two souls, it is love, which does that. Marriages may have a great role to play in India, but that still is for the society.

                        Nobody can give you wiser advice than yourself. - Cicero .·´¯`·->Rajesh<-·´¯`·. Codeproject.com: Visual C++ MVP

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                        Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                        . It is not marriage which unites two souls, it is love, which does that.

                        Right. :) And if two persons love each other then and then they get married. If there is not love then no marriage and if no marriage then no divorce. :laugh: From my point of view marriage is nothing but promise (ethical and of course legally) to each other. If person has wrong intentions then there is no need of talking about this...

                        "Save water,It's precious" :) "Don't forget to vote" ;) ;P ;)

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                        • T Thats Aragon

                          Rajesh R Subramanian wrote:

                          . It is not marriage which unites two souls, it is love, which does that.

                          Right. :) And if two persons love each other then and then they get married. If there is not love then no marriage and if no marriage then no divorce. :laugh: From my point of view marriage is nothing but promise (ethical and of course legally) to each other. If person has wrong intentions then there is no need of talking about this...

                          "Save water,It's precious" :) "Don't forget to vote" ;) ;P ;)

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                          Rajesh R Subramanian
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                          Cosmo Thought wrote:

                          From my point of view marriage is nothing but promise

                          Love is the promise. If the love is true, then the promise to stay together is already there. Marriage is only for the society, as I already stated.

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                            On MercuryNews.com[^] You wouldn't believe how ridiculous the arguments against same-sex "marriage" are—especially the ones made by the protesters.

                            So the creationist says: Everything must have a designer. God designed everything. I say: Why is God the only exception? Why not make the "designs" (like man) exceptions and make God a creation of man?

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                            Marriage is a unique institution; it was not invented by man but by God and as such all debate about redefining it is moot. None of use own the definition so none of us can change it. We can lie to ourselves and attempt to exceed our authority but it makes no difference. You are married if God considers yo married and not if he considers you not and that's an end of it. Anyone who wants to invent some other form of union or statute or institution can do so if they have the power but it is not marriage.

                            Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.

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                            • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

                              A marriage is a holy function. It makes a guy unite with a girl in service to the Lord. At least in the Hindu scriptures, there are four stages of life. The first one is 'Brahmacharya', 'Grihasta'. Wedding indicates joining into the second stage of life. The other two stages ('Vanaprastha' and 'Sanyasa') come during older age. I also would like to share an article which speaks about the good facts about marriage and about restricted and religiously-allowed sex habits: www.trsiyengar.com/id46.shtml[^]

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                              A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson

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                              Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

                              It makes a guy unite with a girl in service to the Lord.

                              Which Lord? Dont you have about 20? Anyway, this is not so. Marriage is a social tool to keep men in order. Without it society would be chaotic.

                              Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                                Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

                                A marriage is a holy function.

                                Says who?

                                -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit

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                                Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

                                Says who?

                                Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

                                Vasudevan Deepak K wrote: A marriage is a holy function.

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                                  Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

                                  It makes a guy unite with a girl in service to the Lord.

                                  Which Lord? Dont you have about 20? Anyway, this is not so. Marriage is a social tool to keep men in order. Without it society would be chaotic.

                                  Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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                                  fat_boy wrote:

                                  Marriage is a social tool to keep men in order.

                                  And to keep marriage itself in order with the marital relationship peaceful for long years, a mutual understanding and a true love is the one which is a desired feature.

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                                    Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

                                    Says who?

                                    Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

                                    Vasudevan Deepak K wrote: A marriage is a holy function.

                                    Give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day. Teach a man how to fish, he'll eat for lifetime. Pradeep Joe

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                                    Joe wrote:

                                    Give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day. Teach a man how to fish, he'll eat for lifetime.

                                    Show him where Tesco is and he doesn't have to sit in the cold by a river all day.

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                                      Oakman wrote:

                                      The only sane reason for a marriage to exist is that it is a legal binding together of two people in an economic partnership for the purpose of raising kids.

                                      Why just for raising kids? It legally defines a support unit between two people. Who has the legal say to make decisions for the other if they become incapacitated. Many heterosexual couples don't have children these days, should their marriages be dissolved?

                                      Doing my part to piss off the religious right.

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                                      Thats a valid point. The government's only interest in any cohabitation situation is the issue of dependency. If one individual is taking care of another individual, than they should probably have some accomodation of that effort from the government in regards to their taxes. Aside from that, it really makes no logical sense for the federal government to concern itself with why two people are living together.

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                                      • V Vasudevan Deepak Kumar

                                        fat_boy wrote:

                                        Marriage is a social tool to keep men in order.

                                        And to keep marriage itself in order with the marital relationship peaceful for long years, a mutual understanding and a true love is the one which is a desired feature.

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                                        Vasudevan Deepak K wrote:

                                        And to keep marriage itself in order with the marital relationship peaceful for long years, a mutual understanding and a true love is the one which is a desired feature.

                                        Love has nothing to do with it: that is romantic hog wash which lasts for about 5 minutes until reality settles in along with the thought you might be stuck with this person for a very long time.

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                                          Marriage is a unique institution; it was not invented by man but by God and as such all debate about redefining it is moot. None of use own the definition so none of us can change it. We can lie to ourselves and attempt to exceed our authority but it makes no difference. You are married if God considers yo married and not if he considers you not and that's an end of it. Anyone who wants to invent some other form of union or statute or institution can do so if they have the power but it is not marriage.

                                          Nothing is exactly what it seems but everything with seems can be unpicked.

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                                          Matthew Faithfull wrote:

                                          Marriage is a unique institution; it was not invented by man but by God

                                          Yes, thats why animals get married too.

                                          Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription

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