Some Viruses Come Pre-Installed
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Some Viruses Come Pre-Installed[^] (AP) -- From iPods to navigation systems, some of today's hottest gadgets are landing on store shelves with some unwanted extras from the factory - pre-installed viruses that steal passwords, open doors for hackers and make computers spew spam.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Some Viruses Come Pre-Installed[^] (AP) -- From iPods to navigation systems, some of today's hottest gadgets are landing on store shelves with some unwanted extras from the factory - pre-installed viruses that steal passwords, open doors for hackers and make computers spew spam.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
You get what you pay for. These companies want to use all this cheap offshore labor... Now they're paying the price.
WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.
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You get what you pay for. These companies want to use all this cheap offshore labor... Now they're paying the price.
WE ARE DYSLEXIC OF BORG. Refutance is systile. Your a$$ will be laminated. There are 10 kinds of people in the world: People who know binary and people who don't.
Tom Delany wrote:
Now they're paying the price.
Unfortunately, so are we. Outsourcing of manufacturing has become so prevalent, there is often no higher-priced alternative for a discriminating buyer to choose any more.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
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Tom Delany wrote:
Now they're paying the price.
Unfortunately, so are we. Outsourcing of manufacturing has become so prevalent, there is often no higher-priced alternative for a discriminating buyer to choose any more.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
Oakman wrote:
Unfortunately, so are we. Outsourcing of manufacturing has become so prevalent, there is often no higher-priced alternative for a discriminating buyer to choose any more.
That's the truth! The ones that started out inexpensive/cheap have worked there way up the marketing chain and no one can compete with them anymore. And its our fault for not buying quality, instead of looking at the bottom line. Now its our bottoms that are on the line! One information-technology worker wrote to the SANS security group that his new digital picture frame delivered "the nastiest virus that I've ever encountered in my 20-plus-year IT career." Another complained his new external hard drive had malfunctioned because it came loaded with a password-stealing virus. I thought this passage was particularly interesting. Mike
Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. "George Carlin
Semper Fi http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com[^]
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Oakman wrote:
Unfortunately, so are we. Outsourcing of manufacturing has become so prevalent, there is often no higher-priced alternative for a discriminating buyer to choose any more.
That's the truth! The ones that started out inexpensive/cheap have worked there way up the marketing chain and no one can compete with them anymore. And its our fault for not buying quality, instead of looking at the bottom line. Now its our bottoms that are on the line! One information-technology worker wrote to the SANS security group that his new digital picture frame delivered "the nastiest virus that I've ever encountered in my 20-plus-year IT career." Another complained his new external hard drive had malfunctioned because it came loaded with a password-stealing virus. I thought this passage was particularly interesting. Mike
Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. "George Carlin
Semper Fi http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com[^]
Mike Hankey wrote: "And its our fault for not buying quality, instead of looking at the bottom line. Now its our bottoms that are on the line!" What do you mean buying quality? Most "quality" products are made overseas. The only difference between the expensive and el cheapo brands is the sticker/logo on the front. Cynic comment for the day. :)
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Some Viruses Come Pre-Installed[^] (AP) -- From iPods to navigation systems, some of today's hottest gadgets are landing on store shelves with some unwanted extras from the factory - pre-installed viruses that steal passwords, open doors for hackers and make computers spew spam.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Oakman wrote:
Unfortunately, so are we. Outsourcing of manufacturing has become so prevalent, there is often no higher-priced alternative for a discriminating buyer to choose any more.
That's the truth! The ones that started out inexpensive/cheap have worked there way up the marketing chain and no one can compete with them anymore. And its our fault for not buying quality, instead of looking at the bottom line. Now its our bottoms that are on the line! One information-technology worker wrote to the SANS security group that his new digital picture frame delivered "the nastiest virus that I've ever encountered in my 20-plus-year IT career." Another complained his new external hard drive had malfunctioned because it came loaded with a password-stealing virus. I thought this passage was particularly interesting. Mike
Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. "George Carlin
Semper Fi http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com[^]
Mike, I have to agree with you! We have looked for the cheapest solution for so long, now our country is paying for it! This is the MAIN reason I hate Wal-Mart. I challenge anyone here to walk down 2 isles in that place and pick up 3 items that were made in the USA. Not designed in the US and assembled in Mexico or India or Taiwan. Find 3 items that are completely made and assembled in the USA. After you have wasted several hours attempting this feat, you'll catch my drift! Jim
JamminJimE Microsoft Certified Application Developer
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Some Viruses Come Pre-Installed[^] (AP) -- From iPods to navigation systems, some of today's hottest gadgets are landing on store shelves with some unwanted extras from the factory - pre-installed viruses that steal passwords, open doors for hackers and make computers spew spam.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
with some unwanted extras from the factory
"Monitoring suppliers in China and elsewhere is expensive, and cuts into the savings of outsourcing. But it's what U.S. companies must do to prevent poisoning on the assembly line, said Yossi Sheffi, a professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology specializing in supply chain management. " Gee, fair treatment of employees is expensive. Pollution controls are expensive. OHSA abidance is expensive. Oversight is expensive. That's why we buy the stuff from China (et al), cause they don't care about these things leading to cheaper stuff. We get the cheap crap, they get our money. We complain, they smile. CEO's make tons of money. It's what we asked for, just not what we really wanted. :mad:
Gary
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Some Viruses Come Pre-Installed[^] (AP) -- From iPods to navigation systems, some of today's hottest gadgets are landing on store shelves with some unwanted extras from the factory - pre-installed viruses that steal passwords, open doors for hackers and make computers spew spam.
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Tom Delany wrote:
Now they're paying the price.
Unfortunately, so are we. Outsourcing of manufacturing has become so prevalent, there is often no higher-priced alternative for a discriminating buyer to choose any more.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
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Would you be happy if we produced everything here? Do you want American workers to make low-end products forever? I bought a PURE Made-in-USA cabinet and returned it the same day, because of the quality. You need to give up something to get something.
Jun Xia wrote:
Would you be happy if we produced everything here?
yes
Jun Xia wrote:
Do you want American workers to make low-end products forever?
There are a lot of American workers that would rather make 'low end products' (like iPhones???) than be unemployed.
Jun Xia wrote:
I bought a PURE Made-in-USA cabinet and returned it the same day, because of the quality
OK - it certainly can happen. I just don't see what it has to do with what we are talking about.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
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Chris Maunder wrote:
with some unwanted extras from the factory
"Monitoring suppliers in China and elsewhere is expensive, and cuts into the savings of outsourcing. But it's what U.S. companies must do to prevent poisoning on the assembly line, said Yossi Sheffi, a professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology specializing in supply chain management. " Gee, fair treatment of employees is expensive. Pollution controls are expensive. OHSA abidance is expensive. Oversight is expensive. That's why we buy the stuff from China (et al), cause they don't care about these things leading to cheaper stuff. We get the cheap crap, they get our money. We complain, they smile. CEO's make tons of money. It's what we asked for, just not what we really wanted. :mad:
Gary
You cannot 'complain' about wal mart ... if you 'shop' at wal mart. It makes you belive that 'your dollar goes farther, becuase they have lower prices'. Problems is, we just spend all our money on more stuff, that we probably don't need. Business will react to consumer demand - if we demand quality, they will provide it. We wanted cheap .... we got it!
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You cannot 'complain' about wal mart ... if you 'shop' at wal mart. It makes you belive that 'your dollar goes farther, becuase they have lower prices'. Problems is, we just spend all our money on more stuff, that we probably don't need. Business will react to consumer demand - if we demand quality, they will provide it. We wanted cheap .... we got it!
r_o_b_a wrote:
You cannot 'complain' about wal mart ... if you 'shop' at wal mart.
Sure we can. We're forced to shop at Wal Mart because the quality stores you previously shopped at were put out of business by Wal Mart. Now Super Wal Marts are putting grocery stores out of business. You can buy Organic food at Wal Mart that is anything but organic. They're liars, cheaters, and thieves - and the Waltons are billionaires for being that way. We've had 11 Wal Marts spring up within 40 minutes of our home. One community sued to keep them out, but Wal Mart won. Another community 25 minutes away is battling now, but Wal Mart will win, overturning Zoning regulations set by the community. Another Wal Mart 20 minutes away is waiting for current tenants to vacate the property before they tear it all down. Hardware stores - gone. Clothing stores - gone. Grocery stores - gone. Auto tire stores - gone. Electronic stores - gone. Custom Computer shop - gone. Pharmacies - gone. Lawn & Garden / Greenhouses - gone. A previous employer sold to Wal Mart, and I visited the first super store built in Texas some 20+ years ago. Wow! we all thought. This is the sign of things to come (but that was a large metropolitan area). Greeter job at Wal Mart, anyone everyone? :((
Gary
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Would you be happy if we produced everything here? Do you want American workers to make low-end products forever? I bought a PURE Made-in-USA cabinet and returned it the same day, because of the quality. You need to give up something to get something.
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r_o_b_a wrote:
You cannot 'complain' about wal mart ... if you 'shop' at wal mart.
Sure we can. We're forced to shop at Wal Mart because the quality stores you previously shopped at were put out of business by Wal Mart. Now Super Wal Marts are putting grocery stores out of business. You can buy Organic food at Wal Mart that is anything but organic. They're liars, cheaters, and thieves - and the Waltons are billionaires for being that way. We've had 11 Wal Marts spring up within 40 minutes of our home. One community sued to keep them out, but Wal Mart won. Another community 25 minutes away is battling now, but Wal Mart will win, overturning Zoning regulations set by the community. Another Wal Mart 20 minutes away is waiting for current tenants to vacate the property before they tear it all down. Hardware stores - gone. Clothing stores - gone. Grocery stores - gone. Auto tire stores - gone. Electronic stores - gone. Custom Computer shop - gone. Pharmacies - gone. Lawn & Garden / Greenhouses - gone. A previous employer sold to Wal Mart, and I visited the first super store built in Texas some 20+ years ago. Wow! we all thought. This is the sign of things to come (but that was a large metropolitan area). Greeter job at Wal Mart, anyone everyone? :((
Gary
... yes they are hard to miss. I guess that's the point. I say, just don't shop at Walmart ... don't even walk in the door. I know it's easier to say then do - our lives are busy, money is tight, it's soooo convenient. If enough of us choose to shop at our local stores, they would stay in business. Like I said, you (the coummunity) cannot complain about thier small towns being overrun by Walmart ... because 'you are shopping at walmart'. But truth is most of what is sold at WalMart is 'crap', not beacuase of where it's made, but simply because it's made as cheap as possible, so they can undercut. I think that will be WalMarts downfall.
