Windows and 8 core
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Will a default 32 bit install of XP or Vista (using XP Pro/Vista Ultimate) pick up all the cores, or do you need some special edition of the OS?
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I'm running a quadcore on vista 32bit. I dunno about XP and cores > 4 should work fine on vista:~
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Will a default 32 bit install of XP or Vista (using XP Pro/Vista Ultimate) pick up all the cores, or do you need some special edition of the OS?
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Professional/Business Client versions of Windows are licensed for two processor sockets, but are built with the same basic kernel as the server versions (Vista SP1 has the same kernel as Server 2008, which confusingly is therefore shipping labelled as SP1!) If you have 2 x Quad Core, it should pick up all 8 cores. The architectural limit is 32 cores on 32-bit and 64 cores on 64-bit. That applies to all versions of Windows, including servers. Home editions are licensed for 1 processor socket.
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Will a default 32 bit install of XP or Vista (using XP Pro/Vista Ultimate) pick up all the cores, or do you need some special edition of the OS?
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Will a default 32 bit install of XP or Vista (using XP Pro/Vista Ultimate) pick up all the cores, or do you need some special edition of the OS?
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XP home = 1 physical CPU XP Pro = 2 Windows Server 2003 Standard = 4 Windows Server 2003 Enterprise = 8 Windows Server Datacenter = 64
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XP home = 1 physical CPU XP Pro = 2 Windows Server 2003 Standard = 4 Windows Server 2003 Enterprise = 8 Windows Server Datacenter = 64
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001So, just to confirm this, the physical "CPU" is the chip that fits in the socket, right? If that chip happens to house 4 cores, the OS will report it as having 4 CPUs, despiting only occupying on physical socket?
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Have a few spare cores for me, Sir? ;P
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IronScheme - 1.0 alpha 2 out nowNah, not yet :) I haven't bought anything yet, but if I do, I'll think about you as I bask in 8 core glory :) At least until Microsoft releases .Net 4.25 which will undoubtedly require all 8 cores to function. :omg:
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So, just to confirm this, the physical "CPU" is the chip that fits in the socket, right? If that chip happens to house 4 cores, the OS will report it as having 4 CPUs, despiting only occupying on physical socket?
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Jim Crafton wrote:
the physical "CPU" is the chip that fits in the socket, right
Correct Windows counts physical CPU'S and not individual cores as far as licensing goes, however it will it will treat each core as a seperate processor (task manager will show each processor individually).
Gavin Taylor
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Will a default 32 bit install of XP or Vista (using XP Pro/Vista Ultimate) pick up all the cores, or do you need some special edition of the OS?
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Jim Crafton wrote:
Will a default 32 bit install of XP or Vista (using XP Pro/Vista Ultimate) pick up all the cores, or do you need some special edition of the OS?
yes, we have a machine hyperthreaded at work to 8 processors (dual/dual hyperthreaded)
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Jim Crafton wrote:
Will a default 32 bit install of XP or Vista (using XP Pro/Vista Ultimate) pick up all the cores, or do you need some special edition of the OS?
yes, we have a machine hyperthreaded at work to 8 processors (dual/dual hyperthreaded)
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What are the monthly electricity costs at your workplace? I will not be surprised if the bills are more that the Los Alamos laboratories.
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Jim Crafton wrote:
the physical "CPU" is the chip that fits in the socket, right
Correct Windows counts physical CPU'S and not individual cores as far as licensing goes, however it will it will treat each core as a seperate processor (task manager will show each processor individually).
Gavin Taylor
Gavin Taylor wrote:
Windows counts physical CPU'S and not individual cores as far as licensing goes, however it will it will treat each core as a seperate processor (task manager will show each processor individually).
yes, but if I recall from discussions with MS on the subject, 8 core on a single processor, and dual processor is XP pro's limit. vista raises that to 32, I think, but it has been a while since I had that conversation. We were harassing a vendor for charging per core for their software and trying to get industry opinion on multi-processor vs multi-core, not looking for limits at the time.
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What are the monthly electricity costs at your workplace? I will not be surprised if the bills are more that the Los Alamos laboratories.
You have, what I would term, a very formal turn of phrase not seen in these isles since the old King passed from this world to the next. martin_hughes on VDK
Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
What are the monthly electricity costs at your workplace? I will not be surprised if the bills are more that the Los Alamos laboratories.
Actually, after they installed the direct feed from the Palo Verde nuclear power plant in Arizona to my office, I have significantly reduced our bill... of course Phoenix and Tucson both have significant brown-outs when I turn on my computers in the morning. But hey, that's the cost of doing business. Actually, Los Alamos National labs has one of the larger supercomputing clusters. Last I heard they were 1024 processors and trying to budget an upgrade to 2048, by now I would hope that they have done so. Our supercomputer, which I no longer have access to (someone else's project) is only 64 processors (single core, that's how old it is). The processing power of my team is rather impressive, but I actually don't have the most cores. I do have two dual/dual systems and one dual processor (older for email). All of my team has at least one dual core or dual processor, and an older email box. One of my team has dual/dual for building terrains, another has a brand new quad core, and about 4 dual core or dual processor computers (everyone may make fun of me, but he knows how to adopt boxes far better than I do).
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Will a default 32 bit install of XP or Vista (using XP Pro/Vista Ultimate) pick up all the cores, or do you need some special edition of the OS?
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Q. How does this licensing policy affect products such as Microsoft Windows XP Professional?
A. Microsoft Windows XP Professional and Microsoft Windows XP Home are not affected by this policy as they are licensed per installation and not per processor. Windows XP Professional can support up to two processors regardless of the number of cores on the processor. Microsoft Windows XP Home supports one processor.
link[^] Have not yet found similar doc covering Vista. :(
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Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
What are the monthly electricity costs at your workplace? I will not be surprised if the bills are more that the Los Alamos laboratories.
Actually, after they installed the direct feed from the Palo Verde nuclear power plant in Arizona to my office, I have significantly reduced our bill... of course Phoenix and Tucson both have significant brown-outs when I turn on my computers in the morning. But hey, that's the cost of doing business. Actually, Los Alamos National labs has one of the larger supercomputing clusters. Last I heard they were 1024 processors and trying to budget an upgrade to 2048, by now I would hope that they have done so. Our supercomputer, which I no longer have access to (someone else's project) is only 64 processors (single core, that's how old it is). The processing power of my team is rather impressive, but I actually don't have the most cores. I do have two dual/dual systems and one dual processor (older for email). All of my team has at least one dual core or dual processor, and an older email box. One of my team has dual/dual for building terrains, another has a brand new quad core, and about 4 dual core or dual processor computers (everyone may make fun of me, but he knows how to adopt boxes far better than I do).
Time is the coin of your life. It is the only coin you have, and only you can determine how it will be spent. Be careful lest you let other people spend it for you. - Carl Sandburg
El Corazon wrote:
of course Phoenix and Tucson both have significant brown-outs when I turn on my computers in the morning
Please leave the Phoenix/Metro area alone :doh: I have to work here too, you know X|
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XP home = 1 physical CPU XP Pro = 2 Windows Server 2003 Standard = 4 Windows Server 2003 Enterprise = 8 Windows Server Datacenter = 64
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001I wonder what the purpose of these limitations are. What if I wanted to run a server application that scales with the number of cores and I don't need the extra crap that a more expensive version of Windows Server offers?
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I wonder what the purpose of these limitations are. What if I wanted to run a server application that scales with the number of cores and I don't need the extra crap that a more expensive version of Windows Server offers?
So the creationist says: Everything must have a designer. God designed everything. I say: Why is God the only exception? Why not make the "designs" (like man) exceptions and make God a creation of man?
It's a licensing thing, and besides, if you're running a server app that needs 8 CPUs, you really should be running a server-class OS. The lng and short of it is that Microsoft wants to charge more to make the OS do more. Linux, on the other hand, uses all of the cores in your box without you having to pay more money. Unfortunately, Linux isn't a viable desktop OS, but that's not necessarily Linux's fault. Microsoft doesn't want people using a free alternative to their OS, so they fight tooth and nail against interoperability between them and Linux, which proves they're only in it for the money and don't give a rat's ass about customer needs.
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001