Getting an american Visa.
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The U.S. is a free and open society. We welcome citizens from around the world who genuinely want to visit, study, and do business here. It's like a joke... so I have to pay to fly to the US, hoping to get a job, return to my country while they issue the visa (I suppose the don't do it in the same day, and I can't wait without doing anything) and then I will be asking myself, when will I have to leave depending on which jobs I get or not and on my employer. It's like they do it on purpose so almost no one can go there. Or should I be an illegal immigrant as they all hate... This is frustrating, Thanks!
It's the same in virtually every country. Well, it depends a little on the agreements made between the two countries (your and the target country). Sweden and Norway have mutual agreements regarding immigration, so there's hardly any problems migrating between the two. My recent migration to Norway was virtually painless!
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
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Hello, I just called the american embassy to ask what I need to get a Visa (don't know exactly which one, H1B I think), and they told me the only way I could get a Visa is by actually having a employer filling some forms which is a sort of promise that he will hire me without even having met me, this is ridiculous, isnt't it? Further more I read that the visa duration depends directly on your works, meaning that if you get fired, usa kicks you out, quite convenient if it is true. My question is is this true? Is this the only way to work in the USA for foreigners? If it is it's ironic because it's like saying yeah, we accept legal immigration but in the real world it is almost impossible, who will hire a person without even meet? You have to be insane... Anyway, I wondered if any of you knew a way I could go to the USA legally and seek for a job once there. Maybe because I work in the IT field it could be easier than if I was a sausage dealer. Thanks in advance.
¿Pero, por qué quieres usted ir para los Estados Unidos? Hay tantas opciones mejores. Por ejemplo: solo para países que hablan inglês puedes escojer Australia, Canadá y Inglaterra; todos opciones muy mejores que los E.U. No creo que los E.U. sea una buena opción: la economia está en crisis, las dificuldades de inmigración son muchas y hay mucho racismo.
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¿Pero, por qué quieres usted ir para los Estados Unidos? Hay tantas opciones mejores. Por ejemplo: solo para países que hablan inglês puedes escojer Australia, Canadá y Inglaterra; todos opciones muy mejores que los E.U. No creo que los E.U. sea una buena opción: la economia está en crisis, las dificuldades de inmigración son muchas y hay mucho racismo.
FYI, England/UK is part of the European Union...
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
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¿Pero, por qué quieres usted ir para los Estados Unidos? Hay tantas opciones mejores. Por ejemplo: solo para países que hablan inglês puedes escojer Australia, Canadá y Inglaterra; todos opciones muy mejores que los E.U. No creo que los E.U. sea una buena opción: la economia está en crisis, las dificuldades de inmigración son muchas y hay mucho racismo.
You know, there actually are some Americans that can read Spanish. Thanks for your continued Anti-Americanism. You should wish your economy was in as good shape as ours, and racism is relatively rare compared to numerous other places. Thanks again.
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It's the same in virtually every country. Well, it depends a little on the agreements made between the two countries (your and the target country). Sweden and Norway have mutual agreements regarding immigration, so there's hardly any problems migrating between the two. My recent migration to Norway was virtually painless!
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
You may be right on this one, but we know that this is not exactly true. A lot of countries make it a lot more easy, starting with offering a lot more jobs to non residents than in the us. But I may be saying something stupid. I was thinking in how could I do it, I would have to be 100% sure I get the job before starting to look for appartments, a car, etc etc etc. I may be exagerating, don't know. The first time I left my country I didn't had to do all that, of course I've been illegal for some time but they helped me to incorporate instead of blocking me, this is why I say this is not entirely true that it is the same.
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FYI, England/UK is part of the European Union...
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
He was using E.U. as the Spanish abbreviation for Estados Unidos - the United States.
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He was using E.U. as the Spanish abbreviation for Estados Unidos - the United States.
:laugh: I suppose babelfish.altavista.com has its limitations...
-- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit
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You know, there actually are some Americans that can read Spanish. Thanks for your continued Anti-Americanism. You should wish your economy was in as good shape as ours, and racism is relatively rare compared to numerous other places. Thanks again.
You know, I'm not saying this is direct racism, but it make me feel really unwanted. I moved to some countries and never felt like now. I don't think that this level of control is good for us (the ones who want to work in the usa). Once I'll get there, I will not thinking, hey thanks for the oportunity, I would rathe think, hey, thanks for making my life harder. But I can understand your (americans) frustration. Btw, I don't think racism is rare in the us, it is a fact and it is due, in part, to the massive illegal immigration. Put yourself in my pants and try to feel it as I do. Ask yourself how hard it is to go living in an other continent alone, and not even feeling wanted there, what feeling could it create once you finnaly get on destination?
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¿Pero, por qué quieres usted ir para los Estados Unidos? Hay tantas opciones mejores. Por ejemplo: solo para países que hablan inglês puedes escojer Australia, Canadá y Inglaterra; todos opciones muy mejores que los E.U. No creo que los E.U. sea una buena opción: la economia está en crisis, las dificuldades de inmigración son muchas y hay mucho racismo.
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Cada uno evalua cuales considera sean sus mejores opciones. Me parece muy bien que a ti no te interese, la cosa es que a mi si lamentablemente.
_Zorro_ wrote:
Cada uno evalua cuales considera sean sus mejores opciones. Me parece muy bien que a ti no te interese, la cosa es que a mi si lamentablemente. Quote Selected Text
Bueno, pero no cierres tus ojos para otras posibilidades se la primera no es possible. Buena sorte! ;)
Of all forms of sexual aberration, the most unnatural is abstinence.
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_Zorro_ wrote:
Cada uno evalua cuales considera sean sus mejores opciones. Me parece muy bien que a ti no te interese, la cosa es que a mi si lamentablemente. Quote Selected Text
Bueno, pero no cierres tus ojos para otras posibilidades se la primera no es possible. Buena sorte! ;)
Of all forms of sexual aberration, the most unnatural is abstinence.
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You know, there actually are some Americans that can read Spanish. Thanks for your continued Anti-Americanism. You should wish your economy was in as good shape as ours, and racism is relatively rare compared to numerous other places. Thanks again.
Rob Graham wrote:
Thanks for your continued Anti-Americanism.
You know, I've taken lightheartedly many insults against my country by some Americans (oakman, despeir, etc). All of them much worse than what I say. But, as in the Armenian/Russian/Jewish/Arab proverb: "the dogs bark but the caravan goes on". There is no country without faults or skeletons in the closet. And no country is defined just by these faults.
Of all forms of sexual aberration, the most unnatural is abstinence.
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You know, I'm not saying this is direct racism, but it make me feel really unwanted. I moved to some countries and never felt like now. I don't think that this level of control is good for us (the ones who want to work in the usa). Once I'll get there, I will not thinking, hey thanks for the oportunity, I would rathe think, hey, thanks for making my life harder. But I can understand your (americans) frustration. Btw, I don't think racism is rare in the us, it is a fact and it is due, in part, to the massive illegal immigration. Put yourself in my pants and try to feel it as I do. Ask yourself how hard it is to go living in an other continent alone, and not even feeling wanted there, what feeling could it create once you finnaly get on destination?
Just remember that all of that "give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses" isn't actually a legally binding obligation on our part.
Please excuse my refusal to participate in the suicide of western civilization
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too bad, sorry :/ So you say that it is not as difficult to be hired coming from other countries as I feel it is? The process is simple then I seek for jobs, send my cv, they call, email whatever me, and I they like it as any other job theyll possibly schedule an onsite interview? Well, if it is as 'simple' it could be plausible. What bothers me is the fact that usa is the world's leading country, this involves dealing with the consequences, this is one, they talk a lot about acceptance, and racism, etc. And this is really making me feel as I'm not really wanted. And the fact that my employer has part of my balls in his hands is annoying too. I understand why an undecudated, violent and mentally disturbed person is not really wanted there, but I am not like that, and they make me feel like shit. And an other thing is that I can't leave when they tell me, I have some dates as any person would have, it will be hard to find a company that accepts me and when I can. What I wanted is doing what I could do in almost all countries, go there, and get a job, end of story, no more complications. I am sure there is a valid reason on the other side, but hey, I'm on my side. I will try to contact some companies and see what happens. Thanks for the info!
_Zorro_ wrote:
What bothers me is the fact that usa is the world's leading country, this involves dealing with the consequences, this is one, they talk a lot about acceptance, and racism, etc.
What does this have to do with racism or acceptance? I'll agree that our immigration policy has some issues, but you seem to feel that our Gov't should be flying you in, giving you first pick of any available jobs, and then letting you quit and bum around if you don't get on with your employer. How is that fair to... well, anyone?
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¿Pero, por qué quieres usted ir para los Estados Unidos? Hay tantas opciones mejores. Por ejemplo: solo para países que hablan inglês puedes escojer Australia, Canadá y Inglaterra; todos opciones muy mejores que los E.U. No creo que los E.U. sea una buena opción: la economia está en crisis, las dificuldades de inmigración son muchas y hay mucho racismo.
Diego Moita wrote: But, why do you want to go to the United States? There are so many better options. For example: only countries that speak espanhol can choose Australia, Canada and England all options better than the U.S. I do not think that the E.U. Is a good choice: the economy is in crisis, the difficulties of immigration are many and there is a lot of racism.
By which you mean it's harder getting on the welfare rolls in the US and EU?
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
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Hello, I just called the american embassy to ask what I need to get a Visa (don't know exactly which one, H1B I think), and they told me the only way I could get a Visa is by actually having a employer filling some forms which is a sort of promise that he will hire me without even having met me, this is ridiculous, isnt't it? Further more I read that the visa duration depends directly on your works, meaning that if you get fired, usa kicks you out, quite convenient if it is true. My question is is this true? Is this the only way to work in the USA for foreigners? If it is it's ironic because it's like saying yeah, we accept legal immigration but in the real world it is almost impossible, who will hire a person without even meet? You have to be insane... Anyway, I wondered if any of you knew a way I could go to the USA legally and seek for a job once there. Maybe because I work in the IT field it could be easier than if I was a sausage dealer. Thanks in advance.
Procedure: * Arrange with Mexican embassy passport to Mexico. Pay the appropriate bribes (a little poking around you will find out who to pay off) * Fly into Mexico * Hire a "mule" to take you across the border. * Once across the border get a job. Good chance you don't need papers if your fee is low enough. Heck you can even vote! * If you lose your job you can get food stamps (see previous posts in the soap box) .... Regretfully, I started this post tongue n' cheek... but darn.. it's the freak'n truth;
MrPlankton
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Rob Graham wrote:
Thanks for your continued Anti-Americanism.
You know, I've taken lightheartedly many insults against my country by some Americans (oakman, despeir, etc). All of them much worse than what I say. But, as in the Armenian/Russian/Jewish/Arab proverb: "the dogs bark but the caravan goes on". There is no country without faults or skeletons in the closet. And no country is defined just by these faults.
Of all forms of sexual aberration, the most unnatural is abstinence.
Diego Moita wrote:
You know, I've taken lightheartedly many insults against my country by some Americans (oakman, despeir, etc). All of them much worse than what I say.
You've never forgiven me for proving that your country didn't do squat in WWII, have you. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
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Just remember that all of that "give us your tired, your poor, your huddled masses" isn't actually a legally binding obligation on our part.
Please excuse my refusal to participate in the suicide of western civilization
I just sort of criticized illegal and massive immigration so I don't get your comment. I want to go to work, as you, as others, not less, who knows, maybe more. Instead of an advice on how to proceed, what I get are just patriotic comments like "The entrace to the us is a privilege" "obligation on our part", that's cool, it doesn't really help, and it sounds racist. I think it's all about what reality you live in. Anyway, thanks for your comment!
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_Zorro_ wrote:
What bothers me is the fact that usa is the world's leading country, this involves dealing with the consequences, this is one, they talk a lot about acceptance, and racism, etc.
What does this have to do with racism or acceptance? I'll agree that our immigration policy has some issues, but you seem to feel that our Gov't should be flying you in, giving you first pick of any available jobs, and then letting you quit and bum around if you don't get on with your employer. How is that fair to... well, anyone?
Your taking part of what I said out of context. I don't pretend that, I already told it. What I was referring to with "this involves dealing with the consequences, this is one" is the fact that people prefer going to work to the US than Tombouctou. Not that I should be waiting for American Airlines picking me up when I want. But yes I pretend at least that you allow me come, stay some time to look for an appartment, re arrange my life, etc, and seek for a job at the same time. I don't have to explain how hard it will be to find one from outside right? And then what, where do I sleep? I don't know the city, do you understand what I pretend? Just some time, don't treat me as a dominican coming to enter a gang or anything you may be imaginating. How is that fair to me that you put me in the situation of getting all the risks? You have to cooperate a little, because if I don't quit and boom around as you say but I work hard and better (hypotetical before I get flamed..) it is good for your country. So what's fair? Do you think it's fair in those conditions that my Visa depends almost directly on my employer? And another thing, I know 1 person in those circunstamces, they get the salary they should get, and then, under the table she HAVE to return some cash to the employer so he doesn't fire her. It may seem to you that I pretend more than I do, but it seems to me that you idealise more than you should. But thanks for the comment.
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Procedure: * Arrange with Mexican embassy passport to Mexico. Pay the appropriate bribes (a little poking around you will find out who to pay off) * Fly into Mexico * Hire a "mule" to take you across the border. * Once across the border get a job. Good chance you don't need papers if your fee is low enough. Heck you can even vote! * If you lose your job you can get food stamps (see previous posts in the soap box) .... Regretfully, I started this post tongue n' cheek... but darn.. it's the freak'n truth;
MrPlankton
MrPlankton wrote:
* Once across the border get a job. Good chance you don't need papers if your fee is low enough. Heck you can even vote!
How can you vote without citizenship? Why are you making a parallelism of that with a professional? It's like you tell me, I want to go to your country to work, I'm an architect and I answer yeah, come in, you can sell drugs here. So far, all I get is resistence.