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    Tad McClellan
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    I am doing a presentation on agile development. I'm looking for some sites for some research. XP or Scrum will work. Also I saw some good stats about software development how like 80% of all projects fail. Any idea where you can find stats like that?

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      I am doing a presentation on agile development. I'm looking for some sites for some research. XP or Scrum will work. Also I saw some good stats about software development how like 80% of all projects fail. Any idea where you can find stats like that?

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      Rama Krishna Vavilala
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      The stats which are quoted most by Agile Evangelists come are presneted in the Chaos report by the standish group. A copy can be found here: http://www.projectsmart.co.uk/docs/chaos-report.pdf[^] Another book which is filled with statistics about how great agile programming is and how much of a problem waterfall development is, can be found in the following book: Agile and Iterative Development: A Manager's Guide [^] That being said, I don't think ststistics should be the prime motivation to follow agile development. You shoudl understand the methodology first and then analyze. Think about whether it makes real sense: for example, to have continuous customer interaction and to follow a good test driven methodology. Another thing about Agile development is that many people who claim that they are following some sort of agile development are really making excuse for "ad-hoc" development process: no design, no testing, no documentation. Agile development looks very good in presentations, but to follow it requires discipline and hard work. It may not be panacea for all the development issues. But in my case I have been pretty successful each time I have followed it.

      You have, what I would term, a very formal turn of phrase not seen in these isles since the old King passed from this world to the next. martin_hughes on VDK

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        I am doing a presentation on agile development. I'm looking for some sites for some research. XP or Scrum will work. Also I saw some good stats about software development how like 80% of all projects fail. Any idea where you can find stats like that?

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        Marc Clifton
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        Well, there's these 3 articles I coauthored with Justin: What is Extreme Programming[^] What is Scrum?[^] What is DSDM[^] I also have an article I never published in XP/Agile. It'd make for a fun read, hahaha. Marc

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        • T Tad McClellan

          I am doing a presentation on agile development. I'm looking for some sites for some research. XP or Scrum will work. Also I saw some good stats about software development how like 80% of all projects fail. Any idea where you can find stats like that?

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          peterchen
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          Code Complete[^] has a lot of interesting statistics, and usually references its source if you want to dig deeper.

          We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
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            I am doing a presentation on agile development. I'm looking for some sites for some research. XP or Scrum will work. Also I saw some good stats about software development how like 80% of all projects fail. Any idea where you can find stats like that?

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            Noam Sigal
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            Two of my favorites: 1) Extreme Programming: A gentle introduction. http://www.extremeprogramming.org/[^][^] 2) "The Mythical Man-Month", Essays on Software Engineering is a book on software project management by Fred Brooks, published 1975 with a anniversary r-print 1995. Surprisingly relevant 33 years later.(ISBN 0-201-83595-9). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mythical_Man-Month[^] The main issue: choose wisely your design and management methodology, and follow it through.

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            • T Tad McClellan

              I am doing a presentation on agile development. I'm looking for some sites for some research. XP or Scrum will work. Also I saw some good stats about software development how like 80% of all projects fail. Any idea where you can find stats like that?

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              Tad, One site for some statistics is North Carolina State University. They had some interesting stuff in 2003-2004. Go to http://www.csc.ncsu.edu/research/tech/reports.php and search the page for "agile". The usual citation for number of failed projects is the Standish Group's Chaos Report. Unfortunately, this is a purchased report. You may try an Internet search to see if there are any freebie extracts out there. Wayne

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                I am doing a presentation on agile development. I'm looking for some sites for some research. XP or Scrum will work. Also I saw some good stats about software development how like 80% of all projects fail. Any idea where you can find stats like that?

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                Warrick Procter
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                You are joking aren't you? You have posed this question, and there are massive web resources out there (if you've looked you should have said)??!! Why don't you look at the wealth of information out there on the net? Start with google searches[^] and if it is not some frivolous talk you are giving, try Google Scholar [^] that presents peer-reviewed information. I put "agile development -book" into Google Scholar and got 35,000 hits (+1million on normal Google) - should be something there. I put '"agile development" XP or Scrum statistics -book'[^] into Google Scholar and got 37 hits (500+ on normal Google). Think....................... then act................... good luck.

                Troft not lest ye be sponned on the nurg! (Milligan)

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                  You are joking aren't you? You have posed this question, and there are massive web resources out there (if you've looked you should have said)??!! Why don't you look at the wealth of information out there on the net? Start with google searches[^] and if it is not some frivolous talk you are giving, try Google Scholar [^] that presents peer-reviewed information. I put "agile development -book" into Google Scholar and got 35,000 hits (+1million on normal Google) - should be something there. I put '"agile development" XP or Scrum statistics -book'[^] into Google Scholar and got 37 hits (500+ on normal Google). Think....................... then act................... good luck.

                  Troft not lest ye be sponned on the nurg! (Milligan)

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                  Tad McClellan
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                  Thanks for the constructive help. I have searched but I figured some people around here might have favorites, which it would seem the 5 people who posted before you have offered. Some of these I would have never have found otherwise and have been quite helpful. But your right, next time I'll just go through the 35,000 hits instead rather then bother people who might already know and whose opinion I trust. Marc's in particular.

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                    Thanks for the constructive help. I have searched but I figured some people around here might have favorites, which it would seem the 5 people who posted before you have offered. Some of these I would have never have found otherwise and have been quite helpful. But your right, next time I'll just go through the 35,000 hits instead rather then bother people who might already know and whose opinion I trust. Marc's in particular.

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                    Warrick Procter
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                    Try the 37 hits - trust me. I hope the presentation goes well.

                    Troft not lest ye be sponned on the nurg! (Milligan)

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