This is said to be 'Fitna'
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Oakman wrote:
Perhaps just with Dutch balls?
So, are you calling Fat_Boy names? Perhaps making a one-letter substitution to his user name? For, after all, it was he who brought "balls" into the matter. Or, is this just another instance of your typical dishonesty?
No, Oakman is accusing you of fondling Dutch mens balls, or in some way being familiar with them, perhaps medically, perhaps sexually, who knows, but you did completely fail to undrestand what he wrote since it isnt about me at all.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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No, but your statement did remind me of that Patton quote.
MrPlankton
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Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
must realise that sometimes there are things not worth dying for.
There is nothing in the world worth dying for. However, sometimes its good to kill other people because they DO think there is something worth dying for. To do so merely satisfies their logic so is actually an act of kindness.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
There is nothing in the world worth dying for. However, sometimes its good to kill other people because they DO think there is something worth dying for. To do so merely satisfies their logic so is actually an act of kindness. Haha - Is that your own work? That'll make a great quote.
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K. wrote:
fat_boy wrote: Got to say though that the Dutch, once again, are leading the west. I hope not. We don't need this kind of fascist scum to come back again. These guys want to propagate violence to take opportunity of the troubles. Evil bastards.
Thats Dutch, not Deutsch. I am refering to Nederlanders, or Hollondais. They never have been faschists, and in fact were very much anti faschist.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
I was not referring to all Dutch people but to Geert Wilders. "Fascist" is not the good term because his ideology is different from the one of mussolini. However, he is clearly inciting to hatred towards Muslims to get political gains, as Nazis ostracized Jews to gain the power. This guy knows damn well he is putting fuel on fire. He hopes there will be violent reactions. He is waiting for them.
Where do you expect us to go when the bombs fall? Fold with us! ¤ flickr
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There is nothing in the world worth dying for. However, sometimes its good to kill other people because they DO think there is something worth dying for. To do so merely satisfies their logic so is actually an act of kindness. Haha - Is that your own work? That'll make a great quote.
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K. wrote:
"The Eternal Jew" of today, the islamic version.
The difference is that the Germans accused Jews of killing babies and being generally dispicable. The Muslems protrayed in this film dont need accusers. They state it clearly themselves. I say fuck em. Make them swear allegiance to the state (ie western values) above their religion. If they dont, then deport them since they clearly arent fit to live in our society.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
fat_boy wrote:
I say f*** em.
What about gasing them? Let's do it the old european way, let's kill anybody claiming to be muslim.
fat_boy wrote:
Make them swear allegiance to the state (ie western values) above their religion.
Let all swear our allegiance to the State! All of ours, muslims, jews, christians, atheists.... Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Führer! Lets follow China who know how to deal when religious extremists mess with the State.
When they kick at your front door How you gonna come? With your hands on your head Or on the trigger of your gun?
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I was not referring to all Dutch people but to Geert Wilders. "Fascist" is not the good term because his ideology is different from the one of mussolini. However, he is clearly inciting to hatred towards Muslims to get political gains, as Nazis ostracized Jews to gain the power. This guy knows damn well he is putting fuel on fire. He hopes there will be violent reactions. He is waiting for them.
Where do you expect us to go when the bombs fall? Fold with us! ¤ flickr
K. wrote:
This guy knows damn well he is putting fuel on fire
If the fire needs to be made 20 feet higher so the western world wil notice there IS a fire there then so what? Let him do so, let him inflame, let him push them again to the point of illegal action, to the point of damning themselves by the acts, let us see their REAL nature. And then round the fuckkers up and shoot them in the back of the head in a field. (Sorry, its that black and white. If some cunt wants to tell my daughter she has to wear a burkah and hits her for not doing so he just went over the line. And thats a pretty broad deep line, but it can be crossed, and when it has, god help them, becuase they will suddenly find just how resilient Europeans can be when pushed into a corner and if you call it fascism then you are wrong. Its the defense of OUR society. a society that happens to have a great deal of value and a society that will not kneel before 'Allah')
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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fat_boy wrote:
I say f*** em.
What about gasing them? Let's do it the old european way, let's kill anybody claiming to be muslim.
fat_boy wrote:
Make them swear allegiance to the state (ie western values) above their religion.
Let all swear our allegiance to the State! All of ours, muslims, jews, christians, atheists.... Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Führer! Lets follow China who know how to deal when religious extremists mess with the State.
When they kick at your front door How you gonna come? With your hands on your head Or on the trigger of your gun?
K. wrote:
What about gasing them? Let's do it the old european way, let's kill anybody claiming to be muslim.
Dont be such an extremist idiot. The law of society MUST stand above that of any religion. THAT is the Western model, and its a good one.
K. wrote:
Let all swear our allegiance to the State! All of ours, muslims, jews, christians, atheists.... Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Führer! Lets follow China who know how to deal when religious extremists mess with the State.
See above.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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No, Oakman is accusing you of fondling Dutch mens balls, or in some way being familiar with them, perhaps medically, perhaps sexually, who knows, but you did completely fail to undrestand what he wrote since it isnt about me at all.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
fat_boy wrote:
but you did completely fail to undrestand what he wrote since it isnt about me at all.
You did fail (but then, you do work hard at this) completely to understand how easily and how completely I turned his lame witticism back upon him. :laugh:
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fat_boy wrote:
but you did completely fail to undrestand what he wrote since it isnt about me at all.
You did fail (but then, you do work hard at this) completely to understand how easily and how completely I turned his lame witticism back upon him. :laugh:
Ilíon wrote:
how completely I turned his lame witticism back upon him.
"So, are you calling Fat_Boy names? Perhaps making a one-letter substitution to his user name?" Yes, how complete indeed. Complete to the point of utter obscurity if one were asked.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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I'm bored: like what?
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"No poor bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making other bastards die for their country." George S Patton As a matter of fact, Patton had a lot of funny truisms[^]
MrPlankton
I don't deny what Patton said ... in the proper context. But, when people say, "There is nothing worth dying for," they are claiming that there is nothing worth risking death to defend, and they are claiming that there is nothing worth killing for, if that is what it takes to defend it. When people say, "There is nothing worth dying for," they are saying, "I am willing to be a slave to anyone willing to make me his slave."
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Ilíon wrote:
how completely I turned his lame witticism back upon him.
"So, are you calling Fat_Boy names? Perhaps making a one-letter substitution to his user name?" Yes, how complete indeed. Complete to the point of utter obscurity if one were asked.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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So, you're claiming that you mind is not flexible? That you're unable to make inferences, draw connections (even when they're explicitly pointed out)?
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Ilíon wrote:
how completely I turned his lame witticism back upon him.
"So, are you calling Fat_Boy names? Perhaps making a one-letter substitution to his user name?" Yes, how complete indeed. Complete to the point of utter obscurity if one were asked.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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Hmm, OK. I am surprised that what I wrote had been stated before so closely. I thoght it a fairly offensive non PC statement and hoped to gender some debate.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
fat_boy wrote:
I thoght it a fairly offensive non PC statement and hoped to gender some debate.
Blood 'N Guts was fairly offensive, non PC, and often engendered debate. He arguably was also the best tactician in WWII.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
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fat_boy wrote:
Yes, how complete indeed. Complete to the point of utter obscurity if one were asked.
Amazingly enough, we find ourselves in "complete" agreement
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
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"So, are you calling Fat_Boy names? Perhaps making a one-letter substitution to his user name? For, after all, it was he who brought "balls" into the matter." Hmm, so clever, so complete. Sorry, can you remind me again where you were clever I seem to have missed it again.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
It was fairly underwhelming, for all the hype.
And what hype was that? The only hype about 'Fitna' that I'm aware of is the hyper-caterwauling about it by Muslims, and the cringing abasement before that caterwauling by the "elites" of government and commerce. You know, the whole "sensitivity" charade.
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
Geert must realise that sometimes there are things not worth dying for.
Spoken like a born-slave (that's a classical pagan allusion) or a dhimmi. It is certainly true that there are things in this world which are not worth dying for. But, in *this* context, to make such a statement is to claim that freedom, and honor, and indeed life itself, are not worth dying for. In short, only a fool could believe such a thing.
Ilíon wrote:
The only hype about 'Fitna' that I'm aware of is the hyper-caterwauling about it by Muslims, and the cringing abasement before that caterwauling by the "elites" of government and commerce. You know, the whole "sensitivity" charade.
Yes, that is the hype to which I was referring to.
Ilíon wrote:
It is certainly true that there are things in this world which are not worth dying for. But, in *this* context, to make such a statement is to claim that freedom, and honor, and indeed life itself, are not worth dying for. In short, only a fool could believe such a thing.
Phhh. Would you die just to let a few touchy murderers know that you don't like them? I hope you DO die for something though. Show me that you're not just all talk. By the way, your conclusion is stupid. You claim to know a lot about logic, but there you go... :doh:
Richard of York gave battle in vain.