This is said to be 'Fitna'
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I'm bored: like what?
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"No poor bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making other bastards die for their country." George S Patton As a matter of fact, Patton had a lot of funny truisms[^]
MrPlankton
I don't deny what Patton said ... in the proper context. But, when people say, "There is nothing worth dying for," they are claiming that there is nothing worth risking death to defend, and they are claiming that there is nothing worth killing for, if that is what it takes to defend it. When people say, "There is nothing worth dying for," they are saying, "I am willing to be a slave to anyone willing to make me his slave."
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Ilíon wrote:
how completely I turned his lame witticism back upon him.
"So, are you calling Fat_Boy names? Perhaps making a one-letter substitution to his user name?" Yes, how complete indeed. Complete to the point of utter obscurity if one were asked.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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So, you're claiming that you mind is not flexible? That you're unable to make inferences, draw connections (even when they're explicitly pointed out)?
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Ilíon wrote:
how completely I turned his lame witticism back upon him.
"So, are you calling Fat_Boy names? Perhaps making a one-letter substitution to his user name?" Yes, how complete indeed. Complete to the point of utter obscurity if one were asked.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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Hmm, OK. I am surprised that what I wrote had been stated before so closely. I thoght it a fairly offensive non PC statement and hoped to gender some debate.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
fat_boy wrote:
I thoght it a fairly offensive non PC statement and hoped to gender some debate.
Blood 'N Guts was fairly offensive, non PC, and often engendered debate. He arguably was also the best tactician in WWII.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
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fat_boy wrote:
Yes, how complete indeed. Complete to the point of utter obscurity if one were asked.
Amazingly enough, we find ourselves in "complete" agreement
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
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"So, are you calling Fat_Boy names? Perhaps making a one-letter substitution to his user name? For, after all, it was he who brought "balls" into the matter." Hmm, so clever, so complete. Sorry, can you remind me again where you were clever I seem to have missed it again.
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
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Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
It was fairly underwhelming, for all the hype.
And what hype was that? The only hype about 'Fitna' that I'm aware of is the hyper-caterwauling about it by Muslims, and the cringing abasement before that caterwauling by the "elites" of government and commerce. You know, the whole "sensitivity" charade.
Ravel H. Joyce wrote:
Geert must realise that sometimes there are things not worth dying for.
Spoken like a born-slave (that's a classical pagan allusion) or a dhimmi. It is certainly true that there are things in this world which are not worth dying for. But, in *this* context, to make such a statement is to claim that freedom, and honor, and indeed life itself, are not worth dying for. In short, only a fool could believe such a thing.
Ilíon wrote:
The only hype about 'Fitna' that I'm aware of is the hyper-caterwauling about it by Muslims, and the cringing abasement before that caterwauling by the "elites" of government and commerce. You know, the whole "sensitivity" charade.
Yes, that is the hype to which I was referring to.
Ilíon wrote:
It is certainly true that there are things in this world which are not worth dying for. But, in *this* context, to make such a statement is to claim that freedom, and honor, and indeed life itself, are not worth dying for. In short, only a fool could believe such a thing.
Phhh. Would you die just to let a few touchy murderers know that you don't like them? I hope you DO die for something though. Show me that you're not just all talk. By the way, your conclusion is stupid. You claim to know a lot about logic, but there you go... :doh:
Richard of York gave battle in vain.