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    Paresh Solanki
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    What a bit of tangential thinking can bring up. I was discussing the merits of carious 'Far Side' cartoons and we started discussing the 'Moby Dick' one where the author is trying to think up the first line of the story, and we decided to search for the actual text. One of the links that came up was Moby Dick predicts WTC Attack. Someone has used the same method as used on 'The Bible Code' and applied it to Moby Dick. The main website also has some further analysis of 'The Bible Code'. What do you guys think? Paresh Solanki "Set you're faces to stunned..."

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      What a bit of tangential thinking can bring up. I was discussing the merits of carious 'Far Side' cartoons and we started discussing the 'Moby Dick' one where the author is trying to think up the first line of the story, and we decided to search for the actual text. One of the links that came up was Moby Dick predicts WTC Attack. Someone has used the same method as used on 'The Bible Code' and applied it to Moby Dick. The main website also has some further analysis of 'The Bible Code'. What do you guys think? Paresh Solanki "Set you're faces to stunned..."

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      Paresh Solanki wrote: What do you guys think? If a million monkeys typed on a million typewriters for a million years... Turning letters from a book into a message is simply a function. Given a sufficiently large book it's very easy to create a function that will map the words in the book to a message of your choosing. See here for some background, and here for predictions on assasinations as foretold in Moby Dick. cheers, Chris Maunder

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        What a bit of tangential thinking can bring up. I was discussing the merits of carious 'Far Side' cartoons and we started discussing the 'Moby Dick' one where the author is trying to think up the first line of the story, and we decided to search for the actual text. One of the links that came up was Moby Dick predicts WTC Attack. Someone has used the same method as used on 'The Bible Code' and applied it to Moby Dick. The main website also has some further analysis of 'The Bible Code'. What do you guys think? Paresh Solanki "Set you're faces to stunned..."

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        The whole thing of that site is basically to debunk "The Bible Code"'s claims. Basically, the author of the book (Michael Drosnin) said "When my critics find a message about the assassination of a prime minister encrypted in Moby Dick, I'll believe them." So they did just that (and have shown lots of other "predictions" too). Basically it demonstrates that you can find patterns in anything (and the predictions they show from Moby Dick aren't meant to be taken seriously) I'm sure it'd be possible to create an app that takes a text file and searches for patterns by just using brute force dictionary searching -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!

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          Paresh Solanki wrote: What do you guys think? If a million monkeys typed on a million typewriters for a million years... Turning letters from a book into a message is simply a function. Given a sufficiently large book it's very easy to create a function that will map the words in the book to a message of your choosing. See here for some background, and here for predictions on assasinations as foretold in Moby Dick. cheers, Chris Maunder

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          Chris Maunder wrote: See here for some background, and here for predictions on assasinations as foretold in Moby Dick. Does Moby Dick predict when and where I will find my next job? :-D The wait is getting a tad boring and I must be looking in all the wrong places. If Moby can help I will listen. Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "In Summer, I like to dance naked on the roof to celebrate the event of the temperature finally falling below 40C (usually about midnight). But the neighbors have lately taken up the habit of staying up late. And looking up, at times, from their dreary, pointless lives..." - Roger Wright 15/05/2002

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            What a bit of tangential thinking can bring up. I was discussing the merits of carious 'Far Side' cartoons and we started discussing the 'Moby Dick' one where the author is trying to think up the first line of the story, and we decided to search for the actual text. One of the links that came up was Moby Dick predicts WTC Attack. Someone has used the same method as used on 'The Bible Code' and applied it to Moby Dick. The main website also has some further analysis of 'The Bible Code'. What do you guys think? Paresh Solanki "Set you're faces to stunned..."

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            Kill the whales!!! Bubble gum anyone? :) Jeremy Falcon Imputek "The happy people are those who are producing something; the bored people are those who are consuming much and producing nothing." - William Ralph Inge

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              The whole thing of that site is basically to debunk "The Bible Code"'s claims. Basically, the author of the book (Michael Drosnin) said "When my critics find a message about the assassination of a prime minister encrypted in Moby Dick, I'll believe them." So they did just that (and have shown lots of other "predictions" too). Basically it demonstrates that you can find patterns in anything (and the predictions they show from Moby Dick aren't meant to be taken seriously) I'm sure it'd be possible to create an app that takes a text file and searches for patterns by just using brute force dictionary searching -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!

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              A lot of things the world puts their faith in is of the brute force type. It seems true because they want it to be true, and they pick it appart, piece by piece until it resembles something that seems true if you look at it in a certain way. Horoscopes, psychic hotlines, TV evangelists, bible codes, cootie catchers. They all work on the same principle. People want to believe in something. The crazier the better. PS. If you take the ascii value of every 5th letter in this message, and divide it my 5 you'll have next weeks lottery numbers. Try it. Then forward it to 10 friends to increase your luck.

              "I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?" -xterm

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                A lot of things the world puts their faith in is of the brute force type. It seems true because they want it to be true, and they pick it appart, piece by piece until it resembles something that seems true if you look at it in a certain way. Horoscopes, psychic hotlines, TV evangelists, bible codes, cootie catchers. They all work on the same principle. People want to believe in something. The crazier the better. PS. If you take the ascii value of every 5th letter in this message, and divide it my 5 you'll have next weeks lottery numbers. Try it. Then forward it to 10 friends to increase your luck.

                "I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?" -xterm

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                Silver. Member No. 11300 wrote: PS. If you take the ascii value of every 5th letter in this message, and divide it my 5 you'll have next weeks lottery numbers. Try it. Then forward it to 10 friends to increase your luck. I've always wondered if you could convince stupid people that you've got a magic method for doubling their chance of winning the lottery (for just £5). Of course you'd just buy them 2 tickets and pocket the £3 change. If that didn't work then you could try 10x the chance for just £20! -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!

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                  Chris Maunder wrote: See here for some background, and here for predictions on assasinations as foretold in Moby Dick. Does Moby Dick predict when and where I will find my next job? :-D The wait is getting a tad boring and I must be looking in all the wrong places. If Moby can help I will listen. Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "In Summer, I like to dance naked on the roof to celebrate the event of the temperature finally falling below 40C (usually about midnight). But the neighbors have lately taken up the habit of staying up late. And looking up, at times, from their dreary, pointless lives..." - Roger Wright 15/05/2002

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                  If, in your next job application, you write "MOBY predicted you will hire me", you gaot the job. Promised! :cool:


                  To comply with a request by Mike Mullikin, the US will be given a break from all my statements for the duration of one week, up to and including July 17th, 2002, 19:05 MESZ
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                    Chris Maunder wrote: See here for some background, and here for predictions on assasinations as foretold in Moby Dick. Does Moby Dick predict when and where I will find my next job? :-D The wait is getting a tad boring and I must be looking in all the wrong places. If Moby can help I will listen. Michael Martin Australia mjm68@tpg.com.au "In Summer, I like to dance naked on the roof to celebrate the event of the temperature finally falling below 40C (usually about midnight). But the neighbors have lately taken up the habit of staying up late. And looking up, at times, from their dreary, pointless lives..." - Roger Wright 15/05/2002

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                    The wait is getting a tad boring and I must be looking in all the wrong places. If Moby can help I will listen. Probably wont help getting the job but it will relieve the boredom as it's actually an excellent read. Anthony www.TonysOpensource.pwp.BlueYonder.co.uk

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                      Silver. Member No. 11300 wrote: PS. If you take the ascii value of every 5th letter in this message, and divide it my 5 you'll have next weeks lottery numbers. Try it. Then forward it to 10 friends to increase your luck. I've always wondered if you could convince stupid people that you've got a magic method for doubling their chance of winning the lottery (for just £5). Of course you'd just buy them 2 tickets and pocket the £3 change. If that didn't work then you could try 10x the chance for just £20! -- Help me! I'm turning into a grapefruit!

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                      They say lotteries are a tax on people who are bad at math. Since the lotteries in my province are run directly by the government this is more true than ever. Fortunately this is one tax I am exempt from.

                      "I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?" -xterm

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                        What a bit of tangential thinking can bring up. I was discussing the merits of carious 'Far Side' cartoons and we started discussing the 'Moby Dick' one where the author is trying to think up the first line of the story, and we decided to search for the actual text. One of the links that came up was Moby Dick predicts WTC Attack. Someone has used the same method as used on 'The Bible Code' and applied it to Moby Dick. The main website also has some further analysis of 'The Bible Code'. What do you guys think? Paresh Solanki "Set you're faces to stunned..."

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                        Do you realize that if you take 26 letters (also known as the english alphabet), and combine them in a certain order, using any multiple of those self same letters, you will find that they have predicted every event that has ever happened, is happening right now, and ever will happen. Now *that* is amazing!!!:cool: --- CPUA 0x5041 Sonork 100.11743 Chicken Little Within you lies the power for good - Use it!

                        Within you lies the power for good; Use it!

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