Vista and a 10,000 rpm hard disk
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I have spent a lot of money / time on my current pc, quad core, fast memory blah blah... Anyway I have a nexus silent pc / power supply and a very quite heat sink so my pc is lovely and quite - EXCEPT my 10,000 rpm hard disk, I don't mind it so much when I'm working her hard but when I'm just browsing code project and all I can hear is click click wine click arrgghhh it's enough to drive you mad:mad::mad: maybe I should upgrade to xp....
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I have spent a lot of money / time on my current pc, quad core, fast memory blah blah... Anyway I have a nexus silent pc / power supply and a very quite heat sink so my pc is lovely and quite - EXCEPT my 10,000 rpm hard disk, I don't mind it so much when I'm working her hard but when I'm just browsing code project and all I can hear is click click wine click arrgghhh it's enough to drive you mad:mad::mad: maybe I should upgrade to xp....
So? No one forced you to buy such a disk. Moreover, it's browser that continues to read/write the disk cache. --- OR, the disk is not really healthy.
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modified on Sunday, March 30, 2008 10:04 AM
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I have spent a lot of money / time on my current pc, quad core, fast memory blah blah... Anyway I have a nexus silent pc / power supply and a very quite heat sink so my pc is lovely and quite - EXCEPT my 10,000 rpm hard disk, I don't mind it so much when I'm working her hard but when I'm just browsing code project and all I can hear is click click wine click arrgghhh it's enough to drive you mad:mad::mad: maybe I should upgrade to xp....
outside cosmic wrote:
fast memory
Have you also a big amount of? :)
If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
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outside cosmic wrote:
fast memory
Have you also a big amount of? :)
If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler. -- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong. -- Iain Clarkeyep, only to make up for my lacking in intellagence... You know what they say about men the boost about size :laugh:
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So? No one forced you to buy such a disk. Moreover, it's browser that continues to read/write the disk cache. --- OR, the disk is not really healthy.
If you truly believe you need to pick a mobile phone that "says something" about your personality, don't bother. You don't have a personality. A mental illness, maybe - but not a personality. - Charlie Brooker My Photos/CP Flickr Group - ScrewTurn Wiki
modified on Sunday, March 30, 2008 10:04 AM
Vista has finished doing whatever it was doing and I am browsing with the minimum of noise, web browsers do have disk i/o (i'm not a complete idot) but is would be very low as in compared to re-index of a large binary file. Your right - no one did force me to buy this disk, maybe I should have researched it better, lesson learned for next time... Do I have the right to rant? Or do I not have the right because I should have known better?
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I have spent a lot of money / time on my current pc, quad core, fast memory blah blah... Anyway I have a nexus silent pc / power supply and a very quite heat sink so my pc is lovely and quite - EXCEPT my 10,000 rpm hard disk, I don't mind it so much when I'm working her hard but when I'm just browsing code project and all I can hear is click click wine click arrgghhh it's enough to drive you mad:mad::mad: maybe I should upgrade to xp....
Same here, few things annoy me more than hearing my computer. Have you tried a sound dampening enclosure for your hard disks? I got tired of fighting the noise and built an enclosure (aka a big wooden box) for my PCs that has some large slow moving fans pulling air through it to keep the PCs nice and cool. Silence is golden.
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I have spent a lot of money / time on my current pc, quad core, fast memory blah blah... Anyway I have a nexus silent pc / power supply and a very quite heat sink so my pc is lovely and quite - EXCEPT my 10,000 rpm hard disk, I don't mind it so much when I'm working her hard but when I'm just browsing code project and all I can hear is click click wine click arrgghhh it's enough to drive you mad:mad::mad: maybe I should upgrade to xp....
Get a different hard drive? Mine is quiet, but when I was buying it and reading reviews some people complained that it was too loud, while others said it was nice and quiet. I bought the same hard drive a month or two later for a family member's computer, and it is louder than mine. Seems to be hit or miss.
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I have spent a lot of money / time on my current pc, quad core, fast memory blah blah... Anyway I have a nexus silent pc / power supply and a very quite heat sink so my pc is lovely and quite - EXCEPT my 10,000 rpm hard disk, I don't mind it so much when I'm working her hard but when I'm just browsing code project and all I can hear is click click wine click arrgghhh it's enough to drive you mad:mad::mad: maybe I should upgrade to xp....
Lots of programs do things in the background. Open up Reliability and Performance Monitor (I just typed 'perf' in the Start menu search box) and click the down arrow at the end of the Disk header - you'll see what's performing disk I/O. Windows Live Messenger seems to like playing around with logfiles and other metadata in its SharingMetadata folder, if you have Sharing Folders enabled. I think because this is in the profile, it's causing knock-on effects on search indexes. Windows also likes to defer write operations so that it can write whole clusters in one go, rather than lots of little writes constantly rewriting the same clusters. Writes can be deferred for up to 5 seconds IIRC. It's also eagerly trimming working sets to ensure that a certain amount of physical memory is kept free, and writing back changed pages to the working set. It does this when the system is fairly idle so it doesn't have to wait for free pages to become available when the system is busier later on. Registry writes are also cached and flushed at a later point, but they're also written to a .log transaction log file so they can be rolled forward if a crash occurs. It writes a lastalive0.dat file - 512 bytes - to C:\Windows\ServiceProfiles\LocalService\AppData\Local once per minute so that it can detect, if the system crashes, when the crash occurred. This change also goes in the USN Journal if filesystem journalling is enabled, so that other programs that need to monitor changes can detect the change. As for the 10,000rpm disk, it makes an improvement to the peak transfer rate available, which can benefit sequential reads and writes, but does nothing for the seek time of the head across the disk. There's a minor improvement to the time taken for the first sector to be read or written to pass under the disk head, once the correct track is reached. The seek time and first sector time dominate the overall performance of a hard disk. For most random access workloads, a 10,000 rpm disk doesn't give much benefit over a 7,200 rpm disk. Even if an application is reading or writing a file sequentially, if the file is fragmented, the actual disk access pattern can be random. And even one other I/O can disrupt the sequential scan operation.
DoEvents: Generating unexpected recursion since 1991
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Lots of programs do things in the background. Open up Reliability and Performance Monitor (I just typed 'perf' in the Start menu search box) and click the down arrow at the end of the Disk header - you'll see what's performing disk I/O. Windows Live Messenger seems to like playing around with logfiles and other metadata in its SharingMetadata folder, if you have Sharing Folders enabled. I think because this is in the profile, it's causing knock-on effects on search indexes. Windows also likes to defer write operations so that it can write whole clusters in one go, rather than lots of little writes constantly rewriting the same clusters. Writes can be deferred for up to 5 seconds IIRC. It's also eagerly trimming working sets to ensure that a certain amount of physical memory is kept free, and writing back changed pages to the working set. It does this when the system is fairly idle so it doesn't have to wait for free pages to become available when the system is busier later on. Registry writes are also cached and flushed at a later point, but they're also written to a .log transaction log file so they can be rolled forward if a crash occurs. It writes a lastalive0.dat file - 512 bytes - to C:\Windows\ServiceProfiles\LocalService\AppData\Local once per minute so that it can detect, if the system crashes, when the crash occurred. This change also goes in the USN Journal if filesystem journalling is enabled, so that other programs that need to monitor changes can detect the change. As for the 10,000rpm disk, it makes an improvement to the peak transfer rate available, which can benefit sequential reads and writes, but does nothing for the seek time of the head across the disk. There's a minor improvement to the time taken for the first sector to be read or written to pass under the disk head, once the correct track is reached. The seek time and first sector time dominate the overall performance of a hard disk. For most random access workloads, a 10,000 rpm disk doesn't give much benefit over a 7,200 rpm disk. Even if an application is reading or writing a file sequentially, if the file is fragmented, the actual disk access pattern can be random. And even one other I/O can disrupt the sequential scan operation.
DoEvents: Generating unexpected recursion since 1991
My observation over many years is that the best performance improvement is obtained by having two hard drives, one for the system, and one for all of your programs and data. Even better is having three hard dives, and using the third for the system swap file. Anything to keep the system from thrashing the heads. If you have to copy or even move a massive multi-gigabyte file to another directory on the same drive, copy or move it from the first drive to another drive, then move it to the destination. Short file moves are usually buffered in memory, then written, so it wouldn't matter as much to just directly move it to the destination. This suggestion is not just for Vista, but for any OS. Dave Augustine
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My observation over many years is that the best performance improvement is obtained by having two hard drives, one for the system, and one for all of your programs and data. Even better is having three hard dives, and using the third for the system swap file. Anything to keep the system from thrashing the heads. If you have to copy or even move a massive multi-gigabyte file to another directory on the same drive, copy or move it from the first drive to another drive, then move it to the destination. Short file moves are usually buffered in memory, then written, so it wouldn't matter as much to just directly move it to the destination. This suggestion is not just for Vista, but for any OS. Dave Augustine
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Do you also teach your grandmother how to suck eggs?
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
Mmmmm. Eggs.
Darnit Grandpa, you leave Gramma's eggs alone.
Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface
Oakman wrote:
Darnit Grandpa, you leave Gramma's eggs alone.
:laugh: Priceless. I displayed maximum snortage there.
Deja View - the feeling that you've seen this post before.
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Same here, few things annoy me more than hearing my computer. Have you tried a sound dampening enclosure for your hard disks? I got tired of fighting the noise and built an enclosure (aka a big wooden box) for my PCs that has some large slow moving fans pulling air through it to keep the PCs nice and cool. Silence is golden.
Chris Austin wrote:
Same here, few things annoy me more than hearing my computer.
WHAT?? I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER MY COMPUTER!:~
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