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  • M Mircea Grelus

    ... is not a word. Well at least according to dictionaries. That's strange because I use it quite a lot and I've heard it used quite a lot. But then of course English is not my native language so I don't really have an accurate idea. How about you?

    Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy

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    leppie
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    So what is performant suppose to mean?

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    • R Rajesh R Subramanian

      Mircea Grelus wrote:

      ... is not a word.

      I am not sure, but Ninjawords and Wordweb dictionaries think it *is* a word. Ninjawords[^] Wordweb[^]

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      Mircea Grelus
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      These are more like urban dictionaries and not like the accredited ones like Merriam-Webster for example.

      Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy

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        So what is performant suppose to mean?

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        Pete OHanlon
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        It's a term used to state "Our application really sucks, but look we're going to throw a couple of meaningless words into the mix hoping that you'll think it' really quick and ignore the fact that it's a steaming pile of cow doo doo."

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        • L leppie

          So what is performant suppose to mean?

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          Mircea Grelus
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          I know about it being used technologically only to describe a system that provides performance. So you would say it is a "performant application" - an application that performs well. Haven't you come across it?

          Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy

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          • M Mircea Grelus

            These are more like urban dictionaries and not like the accredited ones like Merriam-Webster for example.

            Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy

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            Rajesh R Subramanian
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            Life will be tough if we have to make sure that everything we write is on the accredited Merriem-Webster dictionary. I believe that as the language evolves, some day sooner or later, the Merriem thing will be forced to include new words from the urban dictionaries or it may get out of market for not being comprehensive. :)

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            • P Pete OHanlon

              It's a term used to state "Our application really sucks, but look we're going to throw a couple of meaningless words into the mix hoping that you'll think it' really quick and ignore the fact that it's a steaming pile of cow doo doo."

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              leppie
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              Ohh a managerial word, I am feeling very performant today.

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                Ohh a managerial word, I am feeling very performant today.

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                Pete OHanlon
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                leppie wrote:

                I am feeling very performant today

                Never. I'll not have a word said against you.

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                • M Mircea Grelus

                  ... is not a word. Well at least according to dictionaries. That's strange because I use it quite a lot and I've heard it used quite a lot. But then of course English is not my native language so I don't really have an accurate idea. How about you?

                  Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy

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                  Pete OHanlon
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                  You are right. It's not an accepted dictionary word (yet).

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                  • M Mircea Grelus

                    I know about it being used technologically only to describe a system that provides performance. So you would say it is a "performant application" - an application that performs well. Haven't you come across it?

                    Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy

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                    leppie
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                    Mircea Grelus wrote:

                    So you would say it is a "performant application" - an application that performs well

                    So basically you are saying the application runs? ;P I think a lot of people associate "perform" with something good. So what is the application actually performing? Is it making wells? ;P

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                    • P Pete OHanlon

                      leppie wrote:

                      I am feeling very performant today

                      Never. I'll not have a word said against you.

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                      leppie
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                      Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                      word said against you.

                      No, I am telling you ;P

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                      • M Mircea Grelus

                        ... is not a word. Well at least according to dictionaries. That's strange because I use it quite a lot and I've heard it used quite a lot. But then of course English is not my native language so I don't really have an accurate idea. How about you?

                        Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy

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                        R Giskard Reventlov
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                        There is no such word: it is a made up word that, through constant usage, may, eventually, become a real word. Much like quiz. At present it is a word uttered by brainless marketing types whose grasp of English is matched only by their grasp of technology. One might presume that 'performant' is meant to imply both speed and reliability without actually saying so meaning that you can't sue them for extolling the non-existant virtues of the latest inacarnation of crap-ware. :)

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                        • M Mircea Grelus

                          ... is not a word. Well at least according to dictionaries. That's strange because I use it quite a lot and I've heard it used quite a lot. But then of course English is not my native language so I don't really have an accurate idea. How about you?

                          Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy

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                          Anton Afanasyev
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                          :-D We, programmers, and heavy computer users in general..or actually, any kind o? a nerd/geek, tends to create words that help him/her describe what (s)he wants to say. I've noticed this many many times, and I simply cannot find an explanation for this. I guess we're move adapter to making stuff up as we go along in order to describe things.:~

                          "impossible" is just an opinion.

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                          • L leppie

                            Mircea Grelus wrote:

                            So you would say it is a "performant application" - an application that performs well

                            So basically you are saying the application runs? ;P I think a lot of people associate "perform" with something good. So what is the application actually performing? Is it making wells? ;P

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                            Mircea Grelus
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                            leppie wrote:

                            I think a lot of people associate "perform" with something good. So what is the application actually performing? Is it making wells?

                            :laugh: Well no. From my understanding of the words it's actually an adjective that describes performance. I guess it's probably a managerial word like Pete said. I've came across it and sounded natural to me, but just when I typed a message I noticed that it wasn't recognized by the spell-checker.

                            Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy

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                              :-D We, programmers, and heavy computer users in general..or actually, any kind o? a nerd/geek, tends to create words that help him/her describe what (s)he wants to say. I've noticed this many many times, and I simply cannot find an explanation for this. I guess we're move adapter to making stuff up as we go along in order to describe things.:~

                              "impossible" is just an opinion.

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                                • L leppie

                                  Mircea Grelus wrote:

                                  So you would say it is a "performant application" - an application that performs well

                                  So basically you are saying the application runs? ;P I think a lot of people associate "perform" with something good. So what is the application actually performing? Is it making wells? ;P

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                                  Mircea Grelus
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                                  leppie wrote:

                                  So basically you are saying the application runs? ;P I think a lot of people associate "perform" with something good

                                  Well from my understanding "perform" describes one thing, and "performance" describes something else. I've just checked an English-Romanian dictionary that I have and that seems to second my understanding. Of course actually learning the language with this misconception in mind doesn't really make me a valuable observer.

                                  Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy

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                                  • M Mircea Grelus

                                    I know about it being used technologically only to describe a system that provides performance. So you would say it is a "performant application" - an application that performs well. Haven't you come across it?

                                    Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy

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                                    Lost User
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                                    The phrase "provides performance" is poor english so 'performant' is even worse I'm afraid. It's not your fault, you are being exposed to this - as if it were a disease. Elaine :rose:

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                                    • P Pete OHanlon

                                      It's a term used to state "Our application really sucks, but look we're going to throw a couple of meaningless words into the mix hoping that you'll think it' really quick and ignore the fact that it's a steaming pile of cow doo doo."

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                                      so cynical but yet so true

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                                      • M Mircea Grelus

                                        ... is not a word. Well at least according to dictionaries. That's strange because I use it quite a lot and I've heard it used quite a lot. But then of course English is not my native language so I don't really have an accurate idea. How about you?

                                        Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy

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                                        Chris Maunder
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                                        I've never understood why someone would want to use the word when "it performs better" is so much clearer and saner than "it is more performant". It's use, to me, is indicitive of the person using it losing track of their thoughts and getting lost in a quagmire of buziness speke.

                                        cheers, Chris Maunder

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                                        • M Mircea Grelus

                                          ... is not a word. Well at least according to dictionaries. That's strange because I use it quite a lot and I've heard it used quite a lot. But then of course English is not my native language so I don't really have an accurate idea. How about you?

                                          Cheers, Mircea "Pay people peanuts and you get monkeys" - David Ogilvy

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                                          It might not be in the OED [^]yet but I've seen it used quite often. Trouble is I think if we accept that it's a word, it's being used incorrectly if we apply similar patterns from other english words. It could be the opposite of a performer, i.e. the audience. But mostly I think if it was a word it would refer to the idea of the quality of performance, the the actual performance itself, so it would be like saying "This computer has performance" and leaving out the qualifier. (Of course the OED just added the word "girlcott" this month so I'm starting to wonder if it's losing it's "definitiveness" that they have alwasy enjoyed for so long)


                                          "The pursuit of excellence is less profitable than the pursuit of bigness, but it can be more satisfying." - David Ogilvy

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