Flushing an American
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
about SB's members that they love to criticize every other thing which they want but when same is done with them they start pissing in pants. I love when you guys get pissed and come up such apologetic answers when find nothing sensible in reply.
When you point to the aberrant action of an individual and portray it as indicative of a culture, while expressing approval of the aberrant actions within your own culture, you have to expect someone to call you on it. I'm not pissed, I'm simply pointing out that you are a hypocritical tool, you lack even a modicum of critical thinking skills, and you seem pathologically disinclined towards introspection.
Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
that's what I try to you guys who ain't able to come out of "Holier Than Thou" state and always willing to lecture others about something which you never followed.
Really? When have I posted any criticism of your country, your culture, or anything other than the actions of individuals?
Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
Keep doing as childish reactions of you guys tempt me to expose your own society more.
You must be hitting the pipe on a regular basis if you think you are exposing anything other than your own ignorance and bigotry.
Vincent Reynolds wrote:
your own ignorance and bigotry.
If exposing something is ignorance and bigotry then I am afraid we all are suffering from it.
Vincent Reynolds wrote:
I
If you read I am not targeting you as individual since SB members don't consist of you only.
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Ro0ke wrote:
Taking a life is murder, but that's not the issue. The issue is when life begins.
No, that's the distraction that pro-abortionists use to pretend we don't know when an individual human life begins. edit: I think this is will be where a pro-abortionist will imagine that the fact of miscarriages ... and of twins ... somehow means that abortion is not the deliberate killing of an innocent human life: bluntly, murder.
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led mike wrote:
Yes the abortion issue is as simple as murder
When did murder become simple? Was there a memo?
Citizen 20.1.01
'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'
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Can't take it when it's directed at your country and culture, huh? Tsk, tsk...
Only memories, fading memories, blending into dull tableaux. I want them back.
it seems growing age making you blind as well. If you are suffering from "thread-blindness" then not my fault. I actually answer that Illion guy[or girl]. I am bored of responding your infant answers to me[or anyone else]
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No, you are not dragging me into another retarded conversation about abortion where your premise is that the life of the mother is not relevant to the overall issue. And for the record RoOke is wrong. When it's life is not at all part of the issue. Consider it life from the moment the sperm start swimming. It has nothing to do with the fact that there are two lives involved in the issue, not just one. Well actually that doesn't make sense since you have to consider the fetus a life to have the issue involve two lives, but anyway I think you should get my point.
led mike
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led mike wrote:
How do we know what specific rights need to be codified?
The ones which are not specifically defined in the actual text of the constitution. You know, the ones which the actual text of the constituion specifically leaves up to the states and to the people.
Please excuse my refusal to participate in the suicide of western civilization
Stan Shannon wrote:
You know, the ones which the actual text of the constituion specifically leaves up to the states and to the people.
So that means all of them? You think we can codify all our rights? Or do you mean that if they are not codified then we don't have them? So if it has not been specifically written that I have the right walk around on my hands then I don't have that right?
led mike
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
that came out from your womb? Idiot! opposing something is healthy
Ah! So blowing up other people's children is Good and Right and Totally Islamicly Proper... but killing your own is taboo. Good to know the US doesn't have a monopoly on twisted double-standards... Wait, not good, the other thing, lessee now um... oh yeah: tragic and sad. You are one sick puppy, Adnan.
Citizen 20.1.01
'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'
Shog9 wrote:
You are one sick puppy, Adnan.
Only one can recognize another ;). Shog, Keep Shagging!
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Well hell, if I'd have known you had the power to decide when life begins, I never would have made that statement. You should probably let the world know your final decision so they can clear up the whole abortion issue.
I'm trying but I can only type so fast. :) Just in case your interested, and remember Stan was talking to me, my POV has nothing to do with when the fetus is life. My POV stipulates that the fetus is always life, period. When I said you were wrong I meant wrong in what my perspective is since you replied to Stans post to me.
led mike
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Shog9 wrote:
You are one sick puppy, Adnan.
Only one can recognize another ;). Shog, Keep Shagging!
Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
Shog, Keep Shagging!
:laugh: WTF?!!? :laugh:
Only memories, fading memories, blending into dull tableaux. I want them back.
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I'm trying but I can only type so fast. :) Just in case your interested, and remember Stan was talking to me, my POV has nothing to do with when the fetus is life. My POV stipulates that the fetus is always life, period. When I said you were wrong I meant wrong in what my perspective is since you replied to Stans post to me.
led mike
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Are you joking? She's an infidel!
Only memories, fading memories, blending into dull tableaux. I want them back.
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Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
Shog, Keep Shagging!
:laugh: WTF?!!? :laugh:
Only memories, fading memories, blending into dull tableaux. I want them back.
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73Zeppelin wrote:
She's an infidel!
To be serious for a moment, she probably isnt. (If she is a Christian she isnt an Infidel in Islam)
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
No, in that case she's a dhimmi. And that means that she's still a lesser individual.
Only memories, fading memories, blending into dull tableaux. I want them back.
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Vincent Reynolds wrote:
your own ignorance and bigotry.
If exposing something is ignorance and bigotry then I am afraid we all are suffering from it.
Vincent Reynolds wrote:
I
If you read I am not targeting you as individual since SB members don't consist of you only.
Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
If exposing something is ignorance and bigotry then I am afraid we all are suffering from it.
Yes. Exactly. What you routinely expose is your ignorance and bigotry, and we are all suffering from it. Congratulations. Recognizing you have a problem is the first step to a cure.
Adnan Siddiqi wrote:
If you read I am not targeting you as individual since SB members don't consist of you only.
I do read, and, as your reply was to me, you were obviously including me in the group. I was merely stating that you should not include me as part of the group that makes sweeping generalizations about Islam and its believers. If you truly meant all members of the SoapBox, you were including yourself, and either being unusually honest, or an idiot. Guess which one my money's on.
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73Zeppelin wrote:
She's an infidel!
To be serious for a moment, she probably isnt. (If she is a Christian she isnt an Infidel in Islam)
Morality is indistinguishable from social proscription
Hey, you don't have a spreadsheet with that temperature data you directed me to, do you? Because at the moment I'm doing some Kalman filtering and I could easily do a few temperature data runs while I'm at it to check for a drift in the data. If not, then oh well, it would have been interesting since it's urban environment data, but I don't have the time to extract it from all his plots.
Only memories, fading memories, blending into dull tableaux. I want them back.
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hehe, easy to confuse the two. I have had several of these with the likes of them here including Stan and so far there has never been a need to consider when the fetus is life since none of them will even recognize that the second life, the mother, renders the simple approach of calling it murder unrealistic. That's not to say that on a case by case basis there are not valid comparisons to murder but when you start legislating you are not handling things on a case by case basis.
led mike
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it seems growing age making you blind as well. If you are suffering from "thread-blindness" then not my fault. I actually answer that Illion guy[or girl]. I am bored of responding your infant answers to me[or anyone else]
And I'm getting bored of reading your bigoted and baseless attacks on Western society and culture. I'm also getting sick of your endorsement of violence and hatred. How about that, apostate?
Only memories, fading memories, blending into dull tableaux. I want them back.
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Stan Shannon wrote:
You know, the ones which the actual text of the constituion specifically leaves up to the states and to the people.
So that means all of them? You think we can codify all our rights? Or do you mean that if they are not codified then we don't have them? So if it has not been specifically written that I have the right walk around on my hands then I don't have that right?
led mike
led mike wrote:
So that means all of them? You think we can codify all our rights? Or do you mean that if they are not codified then we don't have them? So if it has not been specifically written that I have the right walk around on my hands then I don't have that right?
That is precisely the way our system of government was designed to work. The few crucial rights were articulated in the bill of rights, the rest were left for us to work out among ourselves with the understanding that the constitution could be amended as necessary to provide for redifinitions of crucial rights. In any case, I can't understand how allowing the courts to discover what ever rights they see fit to bestow upon us in their infinite wisdom represents a much better solution to the problem you are describing. That seems like a far more problematic, and far less egalitarian, solution to me.
Please excuse my refusal to participate in the suicide of western civilization
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led mike wrote:
Yes the abortion issue is as simple as murder
When did murder become simple? Was there a memo?
Citizen 20.1.01
'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'
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led mike wrote:
So that means all of them? You think we can codify all our rights? Or do you mean that if they are not codified then we don't have them? So if it has not been specifically written that I have the right walk around on my hands then I don't have that right?
That is precisely the way our system of government was designed to work. The few crucial rights were articulated in the bill of rights, the rest were left for us to work out among ourselves with the understanding that the constitution could be amended as necessary to provide for redifinitions of crucial rights. In any case, I can't understand how allowing the courts to discover what ever rights they see fit to bestow upon us in their infinite wisdom represents a much better solution to the problem you are describing. That seems like a far more problematic, and far less egalitarian, solution to me.
Please excuse my refusal to participate in the suicide of western civilization