Visual C++ 2008 Feature Pack Release
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Like it says on download page. The VC++ 2008 MFC libraries have been extended to support creation of applications that have: Office Ribbon style interface Office 2007, Office 2003 and Office XP look and feel Modern Visual Studio-style docking toolbars and panes Fully customizable toolbars and menus A rich set of advanced GUI controls Advanced MDI tabs and groups And much more! This feature pack also includes an implementation of TR1. Portions of TR1 are scheduled for adoption in the upcoming C++0x standard as the first major addition to the ISO 2003 standard C++ library. Our implementation includes a number of important features such as: Smart pointers Regular expression parsing New containers (tuple, array, unordered set, etc) Sophisticated random number generators Polymorphic function wrappers Type traits And more!
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Like it says on download page. The VC++ 2008 MFC libraries have been extended to support creation of applications that have: Office Ribbon style interface Office 2007, Office 2003 and Office XP look and feel Modern Visual Studio-style docking toolbars and panes Fully customizable toolbars and menus A rich set of advanced GUI controls Advanced MDI tabs and groups And much more! This feature pack also includes an implementation of TR1. Portions of TR1 are scheduled for adoption in the upcoming C++0x standard as the first major addition to the ISO 2003 standard C++ library. Our implementation includes a number of important features such as: Smart pointers Regular expression parsing New containers (tuple, array, unordered set, etc) Sophisticated random number generators Polymorphic function wrappers Type traits And more!
Mathias S. wrote:
Office Ribbon style interface Office 2007, Office 2003 and Office XP look and feel
So they include Ribbon stuff in VC++, but neglect it in WPF. Bit odd don't you think. does anyone know if there are any plans to update WPF with Ribbons, or have MS decided to stop supporting WPF already!
Simon
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Mathias S. wrote:
Office Ribbon style interface Office 2007, Office 2003 and Office XP look and feel
So they include Ribbon stuff in VC++, but neglect it in WPF. Bit odd don't you think. does anyone know if there are any plans to update WPF with Ribbons, or have MS decided to stop supporting WPF already!
Simon
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They licensed the Ribbon stuff (And all the other new MFC stuff) from BCGSoft. So you are not getting the same implementation as the office team uses. Would not supprise me if MS license some 3de party Ribbons implementation for WPF.
Mathias S. wrote:
They licensed the Ribbon stuff (And all the other new MFC stuff) from BCGSoft.
WTF! Hang on, let me get this straight. MS design the ribbon UI, MS write the ribbon UI and use it in office. BCGSoft copy the ribbon UI and write their own, MS asks BCGSoft if they can use their version in MFC!!! Why on earth did they not just include the version they had already written for office? What a complete waste of time. Ok, that makes sense for WPF, there's probably a fair bit of work to make a WPF ribbon, but surely the office team wrote the ribbon as a library/control that MS could just include/wrap in MFC. Or is the office ribbon so badly written that it can't be reused.
Simon
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Mathias S. wrote:
They licensed the Ribbon stuff (And all the other new MFC stuff) from BCGSoft.
WTF! Hang on, let me get this straight. MS design the ribbon UI, MS write the ribbon UI and use it in office. BCGSoft copy the ribbon UI and write their own, MS asks BCGSoft if they can use their version in MFC!!! Why on earth did they not just include the version they had already written for office? What a complete waste of time. Ok, that makes sense for WPF, there's probably a fair bit of work to make a WPF ribbon, but surely the office team wrote the ribbon as a library/control that MS could just include/wrap in MFC. Or is the office ribbon so badly written that it can't be reused.
Simon
They mention it on a show on channel 9 Do not remember what show it was now. But If I recall it correct it is because the office ribbon is written in win32 and transforming it into MFC in a good way would have taken to long. And to be able to give us developers something now instead having to wait a year. They went this way. It might be this one, not sure. http://channel9.msdn.com/Showpost.aspx?postid=355087
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Like it says on download page. The VC++ 2008 MFC libraries have been extended to support creation of applications that have: Office Ribbon style interface Office 2007, Office 2003 and Office XP look and feel Modern Visual Studio-style docking toolbars and panes Fully customizable toolbars and menus A rich set of advanced GUI controls Advanced MDI tabs and groups And much more! This feature pack also includes an implementation of TR1. Portions of TR1 are scheduled for adoption in the upcoming C++0x standard as the first major addition to the ISO 2003 standard C++ library. Our implementation includes a number of important features such as: Smart pointers Regular expression parsing New containers (tuple, array, unordered set, etc) Sophisticated random number generators Polymorphic function wrappers Type traits And more!
Mathias S. wrote:
This feature pack also includes an implementation of TR1. Portions of TR1 are scheduled for adoption in the upcoming C++0x standard as the first major addition to the ISO 2003 standard C++ library.
According to Alistair Meredith (of Codegear) C++ 0x will now almost certainly be C++ 2009. Apparently the release candidate of the spec is due out this September, so 2009 is a pretty good bet. He did a very fast "C++ 2009 in 90 minutes" overview of the changes in the language (the libraries weren't covered due to time constraints) at this year's ACCU Conference which gave an idea of how wide-ranging the changes in the standard are going to be. I've briefly covered the changes he described in the blog post The Last Day...[^], but I simply couldn't do it justice without writing a book on it. C++ 2009 is a huge change from C++ 2003 - and some of the changes which are proposed (e.g. Lambda Expressions, varaidic templates and a fully defined memory model) are very interesting. Fascinating stuff. :)
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They mention it on a show on channel 9 Do not remember what show it was now. But If I recall it correct it is because the office ribbon is written in win32 and transforming it into MFC in a good way would have taken to long. And to be able to give us developers something now instead having to wait a year. They went this way. It might be this one, not sure. http://channel9.msdn.com/Showpost.aspx?postid=355087
Mathias S. wrote:
[...] and transforming it into MFC in a good way would have taken [too] long
Since when has THAT stopped MS from doing anything? As usual, just do it the crappy way to get it out there! :) Peace!
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Whoo hoo, even more hugely bloated MFC libraries (because the idiots didn't separate the BCG crap into another library.)
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Mathias S. wrote:
[...] and transforming it into MFC in a good way would have taken [too] long
Since when has THAT stopped MS from doing anything? As usual, just do it the crappy way to get it out there! :) Peace!
-=- James
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See DeleteFXPFilesJames R. Twine wrote:
As usual, just do it the crappy way to get it out there!
Actually, that's the secret of MS's success! Get something out and then improve it over time until the competition is ground to dust. :)
Kevin