USB KVMs - response time?
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I just got a 2 port kvm, and I didn't spend much on it. 20 bucks at newegg. However, it takes literally 2 to 3 seconds when toggling between the machines which, of course, seems like an eternity when you're moving at warp 8. All of my previous kvm experiences have been with the PS/2 variety, and hence my question. Is this delay time something inherent in USB varieties, or is this just a case of "you get what you pay for?"
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Coming soon: Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua! www.PracticalUSA.com
I have an IOGEAR GCS632U USB switch, and it works very quickly; also purchased from Newegg ... Maybe cheap hardware, or could just bad ... I would check the postings on Newegg about it, and see if others have a similar complaint.
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I have an IOGEAR GCS632U USB switch, and it works very quickly; also purchased from Newegg ... Maybe cheap hardware, or could just bad ... I would check the postings on Newegg about it, and see if others have a similar complaint.
:..::. Douglas H. Troy ::..
Bad Astronomy |VCF|wxWidgets|WTLThat's reassuring. I grabbed something quick because there's just not room for 3 monitors and two keyboard / rodent assemblies on this desk. Consequently, I didn't do much research. Perhaps I'll go with the one that's working for you.
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Coming soon: Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua! www.PracticalUSA.com
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I just got a 2 port kvm, and I didn't spend much on it. 20 bucks at newegg. However, it takes literally 2 to 3 seconds when toggling between the machines which, of course, seems like an eternity when you're moving at warp 8. All of my previous kvm experiences have been with the PS/2 variety, and hence my question. Is this delay time something inherent in USB varieties, or is this just a case of "you get what you pay for?"
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Coming soon: Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua! www.PracticalUSA.com
I have an ATen 4 port that uses USB and it works great. I bought the ATen because my first try was the Belkin Flip, it is orange and green and has a "cute" little button. It is dog slow, the minimum is 2-3 seconds. Sometimes it takes up to ten seconds to switch my mouse and keyboard over.
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I have an ATen 4 port that uses USB and it works great. I bought the ATen because my first try was the Belkin Flip, it is orange and green and has a "cute" little button. It is dog slow, the minimum is 2-3 seconds. Sometimes it takes up to ten seconds to switch my mouse and keyboard over.
I've got an Aten 8x4 matrix in the server room and I've been quite happy with their quality, though they're not on the inexpensive side. Your experience with the first one tells me that switchover time is apparently a quality related variable between units. Live and learn. :)
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Coming soon: Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua! www.PracticalUSA.com
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I have an IOGEAR GCS632U USB switch, and it works very quickly; also purchased from Newegg ... Maybe cheap hardware, or could just bad ... I would check the postings on Newegg about it, and see if others have a similar complaint.
:..::. Douglas H. Troy ::..
Bad Astronomy |VCF|wxWidgets|WTLDouglas Troy wrote:
Maybe cheap hardware, or could just bad ...
probably the former. I've seen a number of complaints about cheap USB/DVI KVMs in both speed and reliability categories.
You know, every time I tried to win a bar-bet about being able to count to 1000 using my fingers I always get punched out when I reach 4.... -- El Corazon
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I just got a 2 port kvm, and I didn't spend much on it. 20 bucks at newegg. However, it takes literally 2 to 3 seconds when toggling between the machines which, of course, seems like an eternity when you're moving at warp 8. All of my previous kvm experiences have been with the PS/2 variety, and hence my question. Is this delay time something inherent in USB varieties, or is this just a case of "you get what you pay for?"
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Coming soon: Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua! www.PracticalUSA.com
I'm using an IOGEAR GCS634U - no noticable delay when switching. The only complaint I have is a little noise on the audio. It cost $70, so I'm guessing you get what you pay for.
I'm largely language agnostic
After a while they all bug me :doh:
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I just got a 2 port kvm, and I didn't spend much on it. 20 bucks at newegg. However, it takes literally 2 to 3 seconds when toggling between the machines which, of course, seems like an eternity when you're moving at warp 8. All of my previous kvm experiences have been with the PS/2 variety, and hence my question. Is this delay time something inherent in USB varieties, or is this just a case of "you get what you pay for?"
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Coming soon: Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua! www.PracticalUSA.com
The phrase "you get what you pay for" comes quickly to mind. If you want performance, you're gonna have to spend real money. When I was into really fast cars, I went by the following mantra: "Speed costs money. How fast do you want to go?"
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
The phrase "you get what you pay for" comes quickly to mind. If you want performance, you're gonna have to spend real money. When I was into really fast cars, I went by the following mantra: "Speed costs money. How fast do you want to go?"
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
How fast do you want to go
How fast did you end up going?
You have, what I would term, a very formal turn of phrase not seen in these isles since the old King passed from this world to the next. martin_hughes on VDK
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
How fast do you want to go
How fast did you end up going?
You have, what I would term, a very formal turn of phrase not seen in these isles since the old King passed from this world to the next. martin_hughes on VDK
C'mon, it's Simmons here. Cue: "I Can't Drive 55", Sammy Hagar.
Software Zen:
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
How fast do you want to go
How fast did you end up going?
You have, what I would term, a very formal turn of phrase not seen in these isles since the old King passed from this world to the next. martin_hughes on VDK
I'd say 13.8 seconds in the 1/4 mile on pump gas and street tires is pretty damn respectable for a 1965 Mustang Fastback with a 302, especially when you consider that the car was in no way intended to be drag raced (it was built for vintage Trans-Am racing). It had: - a massaged 302 with two matched Carter 600 carbs. This was a factory setup available from Ford -they couldn't sell you the car with it installed, so you got all the parts in the trunk when you drove it off the lot. - a Lakewood steel scattershield covering a Holman&Moody trans am flywheel/pressure plate and clutch disc - a nascar-purposed toploader 4-speed - an aluminum drive shaft (with accompanying drive shaft loop) - a Ford 9-inch rear end with gusseted tubes, nickle gears and 31-spline axles - 4-wheel disk brakes (the car originally came with drum brakes) - a 5-point roll cage welded to the frame of the car - all of the carpet, door liners and headliner removed - spare tire (spare was required for trans am racng) relocated where the back seat used to be. Relocation was for weight distribution - battery relocated to the trunk. Relocation was for weight distribution. - stock front seats replaced with racing fiberglass bucket seats bolted to the floor, each having a 5-point racing harness - all removable sheet metal was replaced with fiberglass copies, including the rear bumper. - glass side windows replaced with plexiglass, rear window replaced with plexiglass shelby racing window (has a gap beteen roofline and glass to releive pressure/heat buildup in car when at speed - racing fuel cell (kind of like what they use now in all forms of racing). This car was my daily driver too. :) Kids nowadays don't know anything about how to build scary fast cars.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
C'mon, it's Simmons here. Cue: "I Can't Drive 55", Sammy Hagar.
Software Zen:
delete this;I currently have a 2004 Crown Victoria with the Mercury Marauder airbox/MAF and a "tuned" computer chip. The car goes 160 without breaking a sweat. If it wasn't so damned expensive, I'd get a supercharger kit for it. :)
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
I'd say 13.8 seconds in the 1/4 mile on pump gas and street tires is pretty damn respectable for a 1965 Mustang Fastback with a 302, especially when you consider that the car was in no way intended to be drag raced (it was built for vintage Trans-Am racing). It had: - a massaged 302 with two matched Carter 600 carbs. This was a factory setup available from Ford -they couldn't sell you the car with it installed, so you got all the parts in the trunk when you drove it off the lot. - a Lakewood steel scattershield covering a Holman&Moody trans am flywheel/pressure plate and clutch disc - a nascar-purposed toploader 4-speed - an aluminum drive shaft (with accompanying drive shaft loop) - a Ford 9-inch rear end with gusseted tubes, nickle gears and 31-spline axles - 4-wheel disk brakes (the car originally came with drum brakes) - a 5-point roll cage welded to the frame of the car - all of the carpet, door liners and headliner removed - spare tire (spare was required for trans am racng) relocated where the back seat used to be. Relocation was for weight distribution - battery relocated to the trunk. Relocation was for weight distribution. - stock front seats replaced with racing fiberglass bucket seats bolted to the floor, each having a 5-point racing harness - all removable sheet metal was replaced with fiberglass copies, including the rear bumper. - glass side windows replaced with plexiglass, rear window replaced with plexiglass shelby racing window (has a gap beteen roofline and glass to releive pressure/heat buildup in car when at speed - racing fuel cell (kind of like what they use now in all forms of racing). This car was my daily driver too. :) Kids nowadays don't know anything about how to build scary fast cars.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001I used to do contract work for a guy who bought old Dodge police cars and drove them. One of his favorite things to do was to go out on Saturday night and scare the crap out of kids in their little six-banger racers. 440 cubic inches of V-8 Satanic majesty will have an effect.
Software Zen:
delete this; -
I currently have a 2004 Crown Victoria with the Mercury Marauder airbox/MAF and a "tuned" computer chip. The car goes 160 without breaking a sweat. If it wasn't so damned expensive, I'd get a supercharger kit for it. :)
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001I presume that "fast and Furious" might be one of your favorite movies.
You have, what I would term, a very formal turn of phrase not seen in these isles since the old King passed from this world to the next. martin_hughes on VDK
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I currently have a 2004 Crown Victoria with the Mercury Marauder airbox/MAF and a "tuned" computer chip. The car goes 160 without breaking a sweat. If it wasn't so damned expensive, I'd get a supercharger kit for it. :)
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001My '93 Corvette (mildly modded LT1 with DRM chip and larger throttle body and exhaust) will do better than 165, and it costs, with mods (but not repairs), less than $30K to date ($25K for the car, another $5K for the upgrades). Of course, when you run a car at the track at 165+, things break and you spend money fixing them. Add all of it together (water pumps, optisparks, power steering pumps, a set of 265/40 front and 305/35 rear B.F. Goofrichs every year, etc.) and I probably have close to $45K in the last 7 years.
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I'd say 13.8 seconds in the 1/4 mile on pump gas and street tires is pretty damn respectable for a 1965 Mustang Fastback with a 302, especially when you consider that the car was in no way intended to be drag raced (it was built for vintage Trans-Am racing). It had: - a massaged 302 with two matched Carter 600 carbs. This was a factory setup available from Ford -they couldn't sell you the car with it installed, so you got all the parts in the trunk when you drove it off the lot. - a Lakewood steel scattershield covering a Holman&Moody trans am flywheel/pressure plate and clutch disc - a nascar-purposed toploader 4-speed - an aluminum drive shaft (with accompanying drive shaft loop) - a Ford 9-inch rear end with gusseted tubes, nickle gears and 31-spline axles - 4-wheel disk brakes (the car originally came with drum brakes) - a 5-point roll cage welded to the frame of the car - all of the carpet, door liners and headliner removed - spare tire (spare was required for trans am racng) relocated where the back seat used to be. Relocation was for weight distribution - battery relocated to the trunk. Relocation was for weight distribution. - stock front seats replaced with racing fiberglass bucket seats bolted to the floor, each having a 5-point racing harness - all removable sheet metal was replaced with fiberglass copies, including the rear bumper. - glass side windows replaced with plexiglass, rear window replaced with plexiglass shelby racing window (has a gap beteen roofline and glass to releive pressure/heat buildup in car when at speed - racing fuel cell (kind of like what they use now in all forms of racing). This car was my daily driver too. :) Kids nowadays don't know anything about how to build scary fast cars.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001Awesome time for any car on street tires. My Vette is street legal as well and runs a 13.2 with 305/35 ZR-17s on the rear. I'm amazed you manage to hook up with the narrower width tires a 65 'Stang will sport and pull that kind of time. What brand and size tires do you run on it? I might have to reconsider my BFGs.
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I presume that "fast and Furious" might be one of your favorite movies.
You have, what I would term, a very formal turn of phrase not seen in these isles since the old King passed from this world to the next. martin_hughes on VDK
I have to say, I haven't seen any of those, and I'm not likely to.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
My '93 Corvette (mildly modded LT1 with DRM chip and larger throttle body and exhaust) will do better than 165, and it costs, with mods (but not repairs), less than $30K to date ($25K for the car, another $5K for the upgrades). Of course, when you run a car at the track at 165+, things break and you spend money fixing them. Add all of it together (water pumps, optisparks, power steering pumps, a set of 265/40 front and 305/35 rear B.F. Goofrichs every year, etc.) and I probably have close to $45K in the last 7 years.
Draugnar wrote:
power steering
Be careful, you're dangerously close to losing man-points.
Draugnar wrote:
things break and you spend money fixing them.
Back in the day, things didn't break under racing conditions simply because they were built better (and because you bought the right parts the first time).
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
Awesome time for any car on street tires. My Vette is street legal as well and runs a 13.2 with 305/35 ZR-17s on the rear. I'm amazed you manage to hook up with the narrower width tires a 65 'Stang will sport and pull that kind of time. What brand and size tires do you run on it? I might have to reconsider my BFGs.
I ran shaved goodyears (I don't rightly remember the size, but the car was radically lowered so you might be able to imagine the widest tire you can put on the car - I was using R-rated 15-inch 70 series tires if I recall). When I took it to the drag strip, I had to back off the negative camber up front.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 -
Draugnar wrote:
power steering
Be careful, you're dangerously close to losing man-points.
Draugnar wrote:
things break and you spend money fixing them.
Back in the day, things didn't break under racing conditions simply because they were built better (and because you bought the right parts the first time).
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
Draugnar wrote: power steering Be careful, you're dangerously close to losing man-points.
You try finding a C4 that doesn't have power steering. Can't be done. They only made them with the power... However, try turning those 265/40 ZR-17s when the power sterring pump just dumped it's guts on the pavement. Curbs come at you real fracking fast at 75mph on the back end of an autocross straightaway. Then talk to me about manhood...
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I just got a 2 port kvm, and I didn't spend much on it. 20 bucks at newegg. However, it takes literally 2 to 3 seconds when toggling between the machines which, of course, seems like an eternity when you're moving at warp 8. All of my previous kvm experiences have been with the PS/2 variety, and hence my question. Is this delay time something inherent in USB varieties, or is this just a case of "you get what you pay for?"
Christopher Duncan Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Coming soon: Got a career question? Ask the Attack Chihuahua! www.PracticalUSA.com
I have two JustCom JC-102CMA USB KVMs (one at home and one at work). The response time is the same as yours, but it's never been too much a bother. Couldn't beat the price ($35 per KVM about a year ago). :) Flynn