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  • R rastaVnuce

    Funny might it seem, but.. I run Windows in VM without net access. Well... most of the time :)

    A buffalo soldier, a dread-like rasta !

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    User of Users Group
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    Easee dread :) It's sad I know, but at times necessary. Hey it can always get worse, more and more people have to run Vista bloat, with another antivirus and firewall offering, AND with defender on top (lol, seen plenty of that around). Add another 60 processes and you have fan club of utterly useless, 'look ma' 3D with TAB. And 'look dad', I'm even less protected than before because the attack surface is now Ultimate Huge! Typical :)

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    • E El Corazon

      Marc Greiner wrote:

      Question: how did the virus on the installation disk of the program your company bought infect the network ? Was it on a bootable CD?

      the Monkey came on a floppy disk, it required booting because the inertial navigation system software came encrypted. Thus there was no way to avoid it, only catch and halt it. We isolated the system immediately and cleaning was difficult, but easier than cleaning the fielded machines if the inertial navigation system had been deployed in the field -- the results would have been devastating. The other infection came in email from the head office, to my boss, so he opened it. You can't expect bosses to know everything you do, nor your clients, etc. You share your computer with everyone on your network, from your bosses, to HR, to accounting, to wiring techs. You have no idea their habits, and then their customer bases, and home offices. Viruses spread because 90% of the people don't know what a computer virus is, or how to stop it. I have cleaned uncountable virus programs off friends and business contacts computers. I always carry an anti-virus program with me because more common than hardware failure is virus attacks because the military believes exactly as you do. They are completely safe as long as everyone obeys those simple little rules. Well I clean up the aftermath, or stop it, one or the other. And I am tired of it. This mentality that a few professionals can be safe is too naive. The larger your contact base with the common man, the greater your danger, because they prescribe to your same logic and they have no freakin' idea how they are supposed to do it!

      Marc Greiner wrote:

      Nowadays, viruses are mainly collecting email addresses, they do not harm the computer as badly as they used to do in the 90s.

      WRONG, big wrong! they can harm them more, but in different ways. There are some things that are sent in private emails that are not meant for the public, or your clients. Viruses even email viruses risk breaking that. Imagine emails to your boss going to your clients, imagine client emails going to other clients, imagine company secrets going out broad spectrum on the internet. No, viruses have only changed their weapons, they are not less dangerous. personally, I would rather a computer crash and burn. Backups are easy to restore. recalling emails, or undoing damage to company images, and restoring customer trust, have a value tha

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      Marc Greiner
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      Thanks for all this information, I find it very valuable (and surelly enough others too). Sorry about me being aggravated about antivirus programms, it must be a reaction to all my friends always asking me what antivirus programm do I have installed on my PC, or "Hey, I got a virus, how can I get rid of it?", or "I even got an antivirus programm but still got a virus", "It says it's a worm, what is a worm?", or "Hey, my antivirus told me that YOU sent me a virus!" etc... If only everyone started to spend some time on how not to get so easily infected instead of trying to find the best antivirus...

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      • M Marc Greiner

        Thanks for all this information, I find it very valuable (and surelly enough others too). Sorry about me being aggravated about antivirus programms, it must be a reaction to all my friends always asking me what antivirus programm do I have installed on my PC, or "Hey, I got a virus, how can I get rid of it?", or "I even got an antivirus programm but still got a virus", "It says it's a worm, what is a worm?", or "Hey, my antivirus told me that YOU sent me a virus!" etc... If only everyone started to spend some time on how not to get so easily infected instead of trying to find the best antivirus...

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        El Corazon
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        Marc Greiner wrote:

        If only everyone started to spend some time on how not to get so easily infected instead of trying to find the best antivirus...

        Face it, these are the same people who haven't figured out what causes pregnancies and certain diseases too. They are "safe" no matter what they do every step of the way through life (and then call for help when something bad happens). Get a coke or a free meal for fixing their computer, something they don't think of as "charging" I know a friend who charges in beer (one per hour minimum, tips accepted). Get something for your efforts fixing their computers. And at work get paid to fix them. Nothing beats a good AV. Most are set on maximum thrash to start with. Think of who is installing them! These same guys/gals getting infected all the time. Knowing how to set it up for your needs so you too are protected FROM those same people you are helping, and all the other people who haven't a clue about life on the internet. As with driving, you can be the best driver in the world, absolutely safe in all respects. But it is the OTHER guy you have to watch out for. Same on computers, even if you are absolutely safe, you are sharing the world with a whole bunch of idiots, and believe me the universe is very adept at making idiots. Stay safe, get an AV, install it and set it up knowledgeably, don't turn off anything you can spare, turn on the detail stuff when your computer is dreaming about electric sheep. :) Be safe without loss of your time.

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        • M MidwestLimey

          Dare I say it, my laptop's NAV *ugh* subscription is about to run out and I'm looking for something that requires less then 80% of the system resources to run in it's place. What's anyone's experience with other AV and internet security apps? Thanks.


          I'm largely language agnostic


          After a while they all bug me :doh:


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          Todd Gibson
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          I've been using AVG for a few years now and have had no issues with it. I use the free version because I dont want/need the other features they have available. http://free.grisoft.com[^]

          ~ballistikx

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          • N NOD32 user

            ESET 4 sure - it has the credentials consistently over time. http://www.nod32.com.au[^]

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            marinonicola
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            I use AVG free.

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            • M MidwestLimey

              Dare I say it, my laptop's NAV *ugh* subscription is about to run out and I'm looking for something that requires less then 80% of the system resources to run in it's place. What's anyone's experience with other AV and internet security apps? Thanks.


              I'm largely language agnostic


              After a while they all bug me :doh:


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              david garlisch
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              I have been using Grisoft's AVG anti-virus *free* edition for years. I am very happy with it. http://free.grisoft.com

              www.pointwise.com

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              • M Micky Finn

                We use AVG and Zone Alarm at home, and haven't had any problems.

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                Jwalant Natvarlal Soneji
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                Yeah and use spybot as the anti-spyware program

                Jwalant Natvarlal SonejiBE IT, India

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                • M MidwestLimey

                  Dare I say it, my laptop's NAV *ugh* subscription is about to run out and I'm looking for something that requires less then 80% of the system resources to run in it's place. What's anyone's experience with other AV and internet security apps? Thanks.


                  I'm largely language agnostic


                  After a while they all bug me :doh:


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                  Ian Fitzgerald
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                  I've used Avira Antivir for a while. Its quite lightweight (until it tries to updates itself), and the price is right for the personal edition. http://www.av-comparatives.org/[^] has useful reviews.

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                  • M MidwestLimey

                    Dare I say it, my laptop's NAV *ugh* subscription is about to run out and I'm looking for something that requires less then 80% of the system resources to run in it's place. What's anyone's experience with other AV and internet security apps? Thanks.


                    I'm largely language agnostic


                    After a while they all bug me :doh:


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                    AlexCode
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                    I'm using BitDefender and I'm finally happy with it. I'm saying "finally" because 'till now I just couldn't make it work correctly on Vista. Now it works great on both XP and Vista, it doesn't bother with annoying things... just works! Before this I've used the free version of AVG also on Vista. I don't have any complaints on this either but it lacks configurations (free! remember?!) and as I already had a BitDefender license waiting for a good version to come out I just dropped it. Earlier experiences... NAV -> Is way less resource expensive than it's previous "brothers" but still it's heavy. McAfee -> Never gave it a 2nd chance since it screwed my HD 4 or 5 years ago Cheers, Alex

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                    • M MidwestLimey

                      Dare I say it, my laptop's NAV *ugh* subscription is about to run out and I'm looking for something that requires less then 80% of the system resources to run in it's place. What's anyone's experience with other AV and internet security apps? Thanks.


                      I'm largely language agnostic


                      After a while they all bug me :doh:


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                      MattPenner
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                      I've used AVG's free antivirus on about a dozen computers for the last year or so. Never had a problem with it and unlike SAV or MAV it's really light weight.

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                      • M MidwestLimey

                        Dare I say it, my laptop's NAV *ugh* subscription is about to run out and I'm looking for something that requires less then 80% of the system resources to run in it's place. What's anyone's experience with other AV and internet security apps? Thanks.


                        I'm largely language agnostic


                        After a while they all bug me :doh:


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                        igoryonya
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                        AVG is my Favorite

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