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  • R R Giskard Reventlov

    HELP SAVE XP Petition [^] Not so much that someone would bother to do this (good luck to them) but that Microsloth is steadfastly ignoring the (apparent) 100,000 consumers who have already signed it. I'm not one as I have learnt to live with the wonderfully quirky Vista and can't be asked to go to all the trouble of backgrading to the livelier XP.

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    Jonathan Darka
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    Don't get me wrong, I used to love XP but have gotten used to Vista now and couldn't go back.


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      HELP SAVE XP Petition [^] Not so much that someone would bother to do this (good luck to them) but that Microsloth is steadfastly ignoring the (apparent) 100,000 consumers who have already signed it. I'm not one as I have learnt to live with the wonderfully quirky Vista and can't be asked to go to all the trouble of backgrading to the livelier XP.

      me, me, me

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      I think this is a waste of your time. Microsoft isn't going to keep selling XP. They've even said as much. We can only hope that Windows 7 is better than Vista is, but I'm not holding out hope. It's going to be a subscription based model where you buy the core code, and then pay monthly subscriptions for the parts of the OS that you need beyond that core. I also read somewhere where they're not going to any heroic effort to remain backwards compatible with existing software. IMHO, that's a big mistake, because they suddenly thrust themselves into the same arena as Linux where people don't want to use it because of compatibility issues, never mind the fact that they will be offering a for-rent module that provides the needed backwards compatibility.

      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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      • R R Giskard Reventlov

        HELP SAVE XP Petition [^] Not so much that someone would bother to do this (good luck to them) but that Microsloth is steadfastly ignoring the (apparent) 100,000 consumers who have already signed it. I'm not one as I have learnt to live with the wonderfully quirky Vista and can't be asked to go to all the trouble of backgrading to the livelier XP.

        me, me, me

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        Shog9 0
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        Don't get me wrong, i hate Vista, but i've always hated XP too, and frankly, campaigning for a lesser evil just isn't in my nature.

        Citizen 20.1.01

        'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'

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        • realJSOPR realJSOP

          I think this is a waste of your time. Microsoft isn't going to keep selling XP. They've even said as much. We can only hope that Windows 7 is better than Vista is, but I'm not holding out hope. It's going to be a subscription based model where you buy the core code, and then pay monthly subscriptions for the parts of the OS that you need beyond that core. I also read somewhere where they're not going to any heroic effort to remain backwards compatible with existing software. IMHO, that's a big mistake, because they suddenly thrust themselves into the same arena as Linux where people don't want to use it because of compatibility issues, never mind the fact that they will be offering a for-rent module that provides the needed backwards compatibility.

          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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          "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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          Christian Graus
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          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

          It's going to be a subscription based model where you buy the core code, and then pay monthly subscriptions for the parts of the OS that you need beyond that core.

          Wow, that is UTTERLY gay. Like I want to install an OS that can be shut off if there's a problem with my credit card....

          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

          I also read somewhere where they're not going to any heroic effort to remain backwards compatible with existing software

          Well, they put no effort into Vista, why start now ?

          Christian Graus Please read this if you don't understand the answer I've given you "also I don't think "TranslateOneToTwoBillion OneHundredAndFortySevenMillion FourHundredAndEightyThreeThousand SixHundredAndFortySeven()" is a very good choice for a function name" - SpacixOne ( offering help to someone who really needed it ) ( spaces added for the benefit of people running at < 1280x1024 )

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          • realJSOPR realJSOP

            I think this is a waste of your time. Microsoft isn't going to keep selling XP. They've even said as much. We can only hope that Windows 7 is better than Vista is, but I'm not holding out hope. It's going to be a subscription based model where you buy the core code, and then pay monthly subscriptions for the parts of the OS that you need beyond that core. I also read somewhere where they're not going to any heroic effort to remain backwards compatible with existing software. IMHO, that's a big mistake, because they suddenly thrust themselves into the same arena as Linux where people don't want to use it because of compatibility issues, never mind the fact that they will be offering a for-rent module that provides the needed backwards compatibility.

            "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
            -----
            "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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            Dan Neely
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            John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

            I also read somewhere where they're not going to any heroic effort to remain backwards compatible with existing software. IMHO, that's a big mistake, because they suddenly thrust themselves into the same arena as Linux where people don't want to use it because of compatibility issues, never mind the fact that they will be offering a for-rent module that provides the needed backwards compatibility.

            Probably anandtech, every single article they've written on windows7 has read like a screed of FUD from /.

            You know, every time I tried to win a bar-bet about being able to count to 1000 using my fingers I always get punched out when I reach 4.... -- El Corazon

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              Don't get me wrong, i hate Vista, but i've always hated XP too, and frankly, campaigning for a lesser evil just isn't in my nature.

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              Jonathan Darka
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              You a windows 3.11 man then or prefer the hard cold nature of DOS ? :)


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                You a windows 3.11 man then or prefer the hard cold nature of DOS ? :)


                Jonathan Wilkes Darka[Xanya.net] [My Code Project Articles]

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                I liked DOS, yeah. Up 'till i got hired to write Windows software, Windows was... this expensive tax on playing new games. I was spending most of my time using various Linux distributions. Windows 3.1 / 3.11 sucked. For everything. Even for games. I recall using it to play with Paint, and... some early form of Encarta... I may have gotten IE 2.0 running in it at one point, but that was pretty brutal.

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                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                  I think this is a waste of your time. Microsoft isn't going to keep selling XP. They've even said as much. We can only hope that Windows 7 is better than Vista is, but I'm not holding out hope. It's going to be a subscription based model where you buy the core code, and then pay monthly subscriptions for the parts of the OS that you need beyond that core. I also read somewhere where they're not going to any heroic effort to remain backwards compatible with existing software. IMHO, that's a big mistake, because they suddenly thrust themselves into the same arena as Linux where people don't want to use it because of compatibility issues, never mind the fact that they will be offering a for-rent module that provides the needed backwards compatibility.

                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                  -----
                  "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                  R Giskard Reventlov
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                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                  I think this is a waste of your time.

                  You plainly didn't bother to read or undertsand my post; looks like you just latched on to the title and, well, made an assumption about what the content of the post was. Shame on you. I prefer Vista and I have nothing, perosnally, to do with the petition nor woudl I sign it. I merely pointed it out for anyone interested. You really are a shoot first, oh shit kinda guy, aren't you?

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                  • R R Giskard Reventlov

                    HELP SAVE XP Petition [^] Not so much that someone would bother to do this (good luck to them) but that Microsloth is steadfastly ignoring the (apparent) 100,000 consumers who have already signed it. I'm not one as I have learnt to live with the wonderfully quirky Vista and can't be asked to go to all the trouble of backgrading to the livelier XP.

                    me, me, me

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                    NormDroid
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                    I'd rather wait for Windows 7 ;)

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                    • R R Giskard Reventlov

                      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                      I think this is a waste of your time.

                      You plainly didn't bother to read or undertsand my post; looks like you just latched on to the title and, well, made an assumption about what the content of the post was. Shame on you. I prefer Vista and I have nothing, perosnally, to do with the petition nor woudl I sign it. I merely pointed it out for anyone interested. You really are a shoot first, oh shit kinda guy, aren't you?

                      me, me, me

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                      realJSOP
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                      No, you just assumed I didn't read it - I was commenting entirely on the viability of the petition. Shot first? I think not?

                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                      • realJSOPR realJSOP

                        I think this is a waste of your time. Microsoft isn't going to keep selling XP. They've even said as much. We can only hope that Windows 7 is better than Vista is, but I'm not holding out hope. It's going to be a subscription based model where you buy the core code, and then pay monthly subscriptions for the parts of the OS that you need beyond that core. I also read somewhere where they're not going to any heroic effort to remain backwards compatible with existing software. IMHO, that's a big mistake, because they suddenly thrust themselves into the same arena as Linux where people don't want to use it because of compatibility issues, never mind the fact that they will be offering a for-rent module that provides the needed backwards compatibility.

                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                        -----
                        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                        Jonathan Darka
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                        I only hope IE is a subscription based extra, then I can just avoid it forever.


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                          John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                          I also read somewhere where they're not going to any heroic effort to remain backwards compatible with existing software. IMHO, that's a big mistake, because they suddenly thrust themselves into the same arena as Linux where people don't want to use it because of compatibility issues, never mind the fact that they will be offering a for-rent module that provides the needed backwards compatibility.

                          Probably anandtech, every single article they've written on windows7 has read like a screed of FUD from /.

                          You know, every time I tried to win a bar-bet about being able to count to 1000 using my fingers I always get punched out when I reach 4.... -- El Corazon

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                          realJSOP
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                          I don't remember where I saw it, but it was at two different places (one place may have been The Register", but I honestly don't recall).

                          "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                          • R R Giskard Reventlov

                            HELP SAVE XP Petition [^] Not so much that someone would bother to do this (good luck to them) but that Microsloth is steadfastly ignoring the (apparent) 100,000 consumers who have already signed it. I'm not one as I have learnt to live with the wonderfully quirky Vista and can't be asked to go to all the trouble of backgrading to the livelier XP.

                            me, me, me

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                            Pete OHanlon
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                            Not me. I like Vista (shock, gasp, horror). Yes there are parts I wish worked better, but the same can be said about every version of Windows that I've installed (except 2003, which was spot on sweetness and light). If I wanted to keep a version it would be 2003 not XP.

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                              XP is nice, but I do enjoy my Vista. For development, it works great, even with the UAC on. For gaming, well, not so fine - but Dell + laptop hardware + vista != good gaming solution

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                              Hmm, am I the only one who's had absolutely no problems with Vista?  I was very suprised when even games performed perfectly on a 64-bit install of Vista Ultimate.  The only issue so far has had nothing to do with Vista but Abit not producing a reliable driver for my wireless card (doesn't really matter since it's a desktop). Will have to see how games perform on my new laptop which has a 32 bit install.  Wasn't intended as a gaming laptop though, just something portable for train journeys and uni.

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                              • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                I think this is a waste of your time. Microsoft isn't going to keep selling XP. They've even said as much. We can only hope that Windows 7 is better than Vista is, but I'm not holding out hope. It's going to be a subscription based model where you buy the core code, and then pay monthly subscriptions for the parts of the OS that you need beyond that core. I also read somewhere where they're not going to any heroic effort to remain backwards compatible with existing software. IMHO, that's a big mistake, because they suddenly thrust themselves into the same arena as Linux where people don't want to use it because of compatibility issues, never mind the fact that they will be offering a for-rent module that provides the needed backwards compatibility.

                                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                -----
                                "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                DaveX86
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                                ReactOS[^] is looking pretty good right about now.

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                                  Not me. I like Vista (shock, gasp, horror). Yes there are parts I wish worked better, but the same can be said about every version of Windows that I've installed (except 2003, which was spot on sweetness and light). If I wanted to keep a version it would be 2003 not XP.

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                                  Ed Poore
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                                  You're not the only one, I much prefer Vista over XP, the killer feature is the Start search thingy. There are a few things which I run frequently: VS2008, Office (2007 which I much prefer, the new equation editor is the best bit), VMWare (for Windows 2000 with Delphi for Uni), Remote Desktop Connection (to access my 2003 box), WinSplit Revolutions (fantastic app), Firefox (enough said), and more and more Blend (thanks to some suggestions from you can probably guess who). Everything works well on Vista and has increased my productivity so I'm not complaining.  Plus I really like the new management interface for IIS 7.

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                                    You're not the only one, I much prefer Vista over XP, the killer feature is the Start search thingy. There are a few things which I run frequently: VS2008, Office (2007 which I much prefer, the new equation editor is the best bit), VMWare (for Windows 2000 with Delphi for Uni), Remote Desktop Connection (to access my 2003 box), WinSplit Revolutions (fantastic app), Firefox (enough said), and more and more Blend (thanks to some suggestions from you can probably guess who). Everything works well on Vista and has increased my productivity so I'm not complaining.  Plus I really like the new management interface for IIS 7.

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                                    Nemanja Trifunovic
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                                    Ed.Poore wrote:

                                    I much prefer Vista over XP, the killer feature is the Start search thingy.

                                    Amen. In fact, I like Win Server 08 even more, although it is a good idea to tweak it a bit[^] to make it a good workstation.

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                                      Not me. I like Vista (shock, gasp, horror). Yes there are parts I wish worked better, but the same can be said about every version of Windows that I've installed (except 2003, which was spot on sweetness and light). If I wanted to keep a version it would be 2003 not XP.

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                                      NormDroid
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                                      I have no problems with Vista and don't know what why people are having problems with it, cast your minds back remember when XP was first released, that too had problems which were addressed with a couple SPs.

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                                        Ed.Poore wrote:

                                        I much prefer Vista over XP, the killer feature is the Start search thingy.

                                        Amen. In fact, I like Win Server 08 even more, although it is a good idea to tweak it a bit[^] to make it a good workstation.

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                                        Haven't look at 2008 yet, just installed Server 2003 which I got as part of DreamSpark[^] onto my desktop so I can access the resources at home from Uni while I'm away.  Although I've heard 2008 & Home Server seem to be very good products so far.

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                                          I have no problems with Vista and don't know what why people are having problems with it, cast your minds back remember when XP was first released, that too had problems which were addressed with a couple SPs.

                                          www.software-kinetics.co.uk

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                                          martin_hughes
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                                          Quite why people are looking back on XP as some kind of Windows Golden Age is beyond me. It was unstable, insecure and that Fisher-Price UI :confused:

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