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  • H Hamed Musavi

    What will be the file system?

    // "In the end it's a little boy expressing himself." Yanni while (I_am_alive)
    {
        cout<<"I love to do more than just programming.";
    }

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    Ed Poore
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    NTFS will deal with that easily.

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    • E Ed Poore

      NTFS will deal with that easily.

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      Ed.Poore wrote:

      easily

      Really? I don't have any knowledge in this field, but I thought in NTFS, MBR supports only 2*1024 GB as the maximum partition size. I might be completely wrong since I cane barely recall this value. Considering that limitation we need 500,000 / 2048 > 244 partitions. what happens to drive letters then(c, d, ..., z, ?)? [edit]Is it possible to have 1 partition? [/edit] Also I think this much memory exceeds maximum volume size, considering current XP cluster size. By the way talking on assumptions that are not true, is a bad mistake I sometimes make. You seems to be knowledgeable in this field. I'm interested to know more. I'm specially interested to know how long does it take to format this partition considering latencies like usual today (nand) flash memories.

      // "In the end it's a little boy expressing himself." Yanni while (I_am_alive)
      {
          cout<<"I love to do more than just programming.";
      }

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      • H Hamed Musavi

        Ed.Poore wrote:

        easily

        Really? I don't have any knowledge in this field, but I thought in NTFS, MBR supports only 2*1024 GB as the maximum partition size. I might be completely wrong since I cane barely recall this value. Considering that limitation we need 500,000 / 2048 > 244 partitions. what happens to drive letters then(c, d, ..., z, ?)? [edit]Is it possible to have 1 partition? [/edit] Also I think this much memory exceeds maximum volume size, considering current XP cluster size. By the way talking on assumptions that are not true, is a bad mistake I sometimes make. You seems to be knowledgeable in this field. I'm interested to know more. I'm specially interested to know how long does it take to format this partition considering latencies like usual today (nand) flash memories.

        // "In the end it's a little boy expressing himself." Yanni while (I_am_alive)
        {
            cout<<"I love to do more than just programming.";
        }

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        Richard Jones
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        I would hope it would come pre-formatted. I would also hope there wouldn't be a long wait while scanning the library. (I tried using VS Server Explorer to show Views on a DB with >36000 views. Excrutiating. :(( :zzz: )

        "Neque porro quisquam est qui dolorem ipsum quia dolor sit amet, consectetur, adipisci velit..." "There is no one who loves pain itself, who seeks after it and wants to have it, simply because it is pain..."

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        • M martin_hughes

          The memory yes, but the music? :)

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          ghle
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          martin_hughes wrote:

          The memory yes, but the music?

          Buy the MP3 player - steal the music. It's the American way. :) Then again, it should come pre-loaded, with back-up copies, as 0.5 exa-bytes would take a few days to download. By the time you'd complete downloading, you'd have to run out and but the newer model. :omg:

          Gary

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          • M martin_hughes

            The memory yes, but the music? :)

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            ghle
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            martin_hughes wrote:

            The memory yes, but the music?

            Buy the MP3 player - steal the music. It's the American Chinese way. :) Then again, it should come pre-loaded, with back-up copies, as 0.5 exa-bytes would take a few days to download. By the time you'd complete downloading, you'd have to run out and but the newer model. :omg:

            Gary

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            • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

              Thunderbox666 wrote:

              come to the door with a gun...

              Yeah that might cause a small amount of anal seepage! Mike

              Semper Fi http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com[^] My Site

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              ghle
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              Mike Hankey wrote:

              Yeah that might cause a small amount of anal seepage!

              But would it make them leave? Get out, get out![^]

              Gary

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                Mike Hankey wrote:

                Yeah that might cause a small amount of anal seepage!

                But would it make them leave? Get out, get out![^]

                Gary

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                Mike Hankey
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                :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Funny video I bet she's hating life.

                ghle wrote:

                But would it make them leave?

                I think it would have about the same effect! Mike

                Semper Fi http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com[^] My Site

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                • H Hamed Musavi

                  Ed.Poore wrote:

                  easily

                  Really? I don't have any knowledge in this field, but I thought in NTFS, MBR supports only 2*1024 GB as the maximum partition size. I might be completely wrong since I cane barely recall this value. Considering that limitation we need 500,000 / 2048 > 244 partitions. what happens to drive letters then(c, d, ..., z, ?)? [edit]Is it possible to have 1 partition? [/edit] Also I think this much memory exceeds maximum volume size, considering current XP cluster size. By the way talking on assumptions that are not true, is a bad mistake I sometimes make. You seems to be knowledgeable in this field. I'm interested to know more. I'm specially interested to know how long does it take to format this partition considering latencies like usual today (nand) flash memories.

                  // "In the end it's a little boy expressing himself." Yanni while (I_am_alive)
                  {
                      cout<<"I love to do more than just programming.";
                  }

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                  Well according to Wikipedia you can have 264 clusters so that using the defaults under Windows would imply 4KB ==>

                  4096*2^64 = 75557863725914323419136
                  500,000GB~500000*1024^3 = 500000*1073741824 = 536870912000000

                  Even if you didn't take into consideration the cluster size then you'd still be way over the 500,000GB limit.  And that's just for one volume under NTFS, you'd probably be able to have another 3+ volumes on a disk if you could find one big enough.

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                  • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                    Tim Deveaux wrote:

                    We can only hope that this technological leap will be used for purposes of goodness and niceness, rather than heavy metal...

                    I think it would cover all genre's! I listen to it all, well except rap which I don't really consider music. Everybody gotta be somebody. Mike

                    Semper Fi http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com[^] My Site

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                    Ed Poore
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                    Mike Hankey wrote:

                    really consider music.

                    You even contemplate the thought that you'd consider it music??? :omg:

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                    • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                      Just saw this in DRB and was thinking what would you need that much memory on an MP3 player? See it here[^] Wow Mike

                      Semper Fi http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com[^] My Site

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                      It's currently more cost effective to simply hack or infiltrate a supercomputer, load it with a bunch of multimedia, install a streaming server, connect your home media PC to it, and watch/listento anything you want without ever having to put in a disc. Of course, when trying to find something to put all those 800MB DivX movies on, one quickly notices that most supercomputers are operated by DOE, in some way. Breaking into US Govt. buildings can be dangerous. But... The Texas Advanced Computing Center is another story altogether. I know what your thinking: doing a B&E in TEXAS!? "Your gonna get shot!" Lookit, I'm from Missipi (how we pronounce it), and we kick a lot of Texan butt, aight? In any case, these aint the steers of Texas: these here are the geeks. They ain't no problem. Why go through all the trouble in the first place? Read the specs on this thing: http://www.tacc.utexas.edu/resources/hpcsystems/[^] Notice the 123 TERABYTES of RAM and 1.73 PETABYTES of storage! Wow... :wtf: I'll never have to worry about storage again... heck, can do it all in-memory on this baby. Just a thought for everyone waiting on the nanotech. There are always more practical opportunities. :cool:

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                      • V VaraNohot

                        Did humanity create 500 000 GB of music in mp3 format already?????!!!!! :-\

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                        NimitySSJ
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                        Willy Nelson probably did 400,000GB of that...

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                        • T Tim Deveaux

                          I agree - 640k ought to be enough for anybody.

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                          NimitySSJ
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                          :laugh:

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                          • E Ed Poore

                            NTFS will deal with that easily.

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                            NimitySSJ
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                            I'd use SGI's XFS: it's was designed for and has been running supercomputers with outrageous storage needs for years. See the Altix Bx2 or InfiniteStorage arrays for good examples. Note: I have to get me one of those Altix things...

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                            • M martin_hughes

                              Who amongst us could legally afford to own 500,000 GB's (isn't that 500 TB's?) of music?

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                              El Corazon
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                              martin_hughes wrote:

                              Who amongst us could legally afford to own 500,000 GB's (isn't that 500 TB's?) of music?

                              well, he is not amoung us... but my brother attempts to own every piece of music and every movie in existance. He no longer has walls, just shelves, and shelves of media. There are no room for picture frames. Worse, there are not enough walls in his 1000sq/f apartment, he has a storage rental he puts bins in, as well as stacks of bins in various corners. If someone else owns something he has to have it also. For instance, if he found out I had the complete collection of Billie Holliday, he would have to immediately run out and buy it. Even if he never listened to it, he would buy it. He knows I have a complete Louis Armstrong, and he has long since matched that, my step father told him so he ran out and bought it. Personally, I think this is a bit of an obsession... but I could be wrong.... :rolleyes: ;) :laugh:

                              _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb) John Andrew Holmes "It is well to remember that the entire universe, with one trifling exception, is composed of others."

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                                It's currently more cost effective to simply hack or infiltrate a supercomputer, load it with a bunch of multimedia, install a streaming server, connect your home media PC to it, and watch/listento anything you want without ever having to put in a disc. Of course, when trying to find something to put all those 800MB DivX movies on, one quickly notices that most supercomputers are operated by DOE, in some way. Breaking into US Govt. buildings can be dangerous. But... The Texas Advanced Computing Center is another story altogether. I know what your thinking: doing a B&E in TEXAS!? "Your gonna get shot!" Lookit, I'm from Missipi (how we pronounce it), and we kick a lot of Texan butt, aight? In any case, these aint the steers of Texas: these here are the geeks. They ain't no problem. Why go through all the trouble in the first place? Read the specs on this thing: http://www.tacc.utexas.edu/resources/hpcsystems/[^] Notice the 123 TERABYTES of RAM and 1.73 PETABYTES of storage! Wow... :wtf: I'll never have to worry about storage again... heck, can do it all in-memory on this baby. Just a thought for everyone waiting on the nanotech. There are always more practical opportunities. :cool:

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                                Mike Hankey
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                                Now thats a computer! Thanks for the link, Mike

                                Semper Fi http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com[^] My Site

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                                • T Tim Deveaux

                                  Mike Hankey wrote:

                                  Yeah that same song is stuck in my head now, thanks

                                  Sorry - always a hazard with these tune related posts. Maybe we should have a 'Music Box' forum. Enter at own risk. :)

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                                  Mike Hankey
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                                  "This new scheme will protect the many users who are now suffering, sometimes for days, with catchy yet awful songs and images in their head," says Hans Freidenhaufer, a top developer at the Mozilla Foundation. See it here[^] Mike

                                  Semper Fi http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com[^] My Site

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                                  • N NimitySSJ

                                    Willy Nelson probably did 400,000GB of that...

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                                    Blekk
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                                    genius! :)

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                                    • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

                                      Just saw this in DRB and was thinking what would you need that much memory on an MP3 player? See it here[^] Wow Mike

                                      Semper Fi http://www.hq4thmarinescomm.com[^] My Site

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                                      Jonathan C Dickinson
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                                      That is a pretty hopeless example of how the tech could be used. What next? Advances in oil refinery make for faster firebuilding with petrol? Blerg. Some journalists...

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