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  • 7 73Zeppelin

    Link[^] The Army and Marine Corps are allowing convicted felons to serve in increasing numbers, newly released Department of Defense statistics show. art.army.jpg A U.S Marine keeps a watchful eye in downtown Baghdad. Recruits were allowed to enlist after having been convicted of crimes including assault, burglary, drug possession and making terrorist threats. Well, that's just excellent!


    And when the sunlight hits the olive oil, don't hesitate.

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    leckey 0
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    I can see in small convictions--maybe as a teen or young adult they were caught with a small amount of drugs. If they stay clean and appear to be on the right track, I have no qualms about that. But if someone was convicted of assault or burglary...I can just see another military prison scandal if former inmates become the guards.

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      Link[^] The Army and Marine Corps are allowing convicted felons to serve in increasing numbers, newly released Department of Defense statistics show. art.army.jpg A U.S Marine keeps a watchful eye in downtown Baghdad. Recruits were allowed to enlist after having been convicted of crimes including assault, burglary, drug possession and making terrorist threats. Well, that's just excellent!


      And when the sunlight hits the olive oil, don't hesitate.

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      Look at the definition of a terrorist: "Terrorist: One who utilizes the systematic use of violence and intimidation to achieve political objectives, while disguised as a civilian non-combatant. [^] Put him an uniform and he's not a terrorist anymore, he is a soldier. What is an army outside its country if not a violent tool to achieve political objectives?

      When they kick at your front door How you gonna come? With your hands on your head Or on the trigger of your gun?

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        Look at the definition of a terrorist: "Terrorist: One who utilizes the systematic use of violence and intimidation to achieve political objectives, while disguised as a civilian non-combatant. [^] Put him an uniform and he's not a terrorist anymore, he is a soldier. What is an army outside its country if not a violent tool to achieve political objectives?

        When they kick at your front door How you gonna come? With your hands on your head Or on the trigger of your gun?

        Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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        K. wrote:

        What is an army outside its country if not a violent tool to achieve political objectives?

        Such as the liberation of France, for example?

        Please excuse my refusal to participate in the suicide of western civilization

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          K. wrote:

          What is an army outside its country if not a violent tool to achieve political objectives?

          Such as the liberation of France, for example?

          Please excuse my refusal to participate in the suicide of western civilization

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          Absolutely - in that case the political objective was to defeat Germany - At that time already the term 'terrorist' was used: -the Germans named the Allied aviators 'Alliierten Terrorfliegern'.

          When they kick at your front door How you gonna come? With your hands on your head Or on the trigger of your gun?

          Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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          • 7 73Zeppelin

            Link[^] The Army and Marine Corps are allowing convicted felons to serve in increasing numbers, newly released Department of Defense statistics show. art.army.jpg A U.S Marine keeps a watchful eye in downtown Baghdad. Recruits were allowed to enlist after having been convicted of crimes including assault, burglary, drug possession and making terrorist threats. Well, that's just excellent!


            And when the sunlight hits the olive oil, don't hesitate.

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            Think of it as Affirmative Action for felons. We have racial/ethnic/quota's for every other profession, why not soldering. One could spin this as you hating people who are rules-following-challenged. The rules-following-challenged have families too. You are trying to take food out of the mouths of children of the rules-following-challenged. You beast! Change your position, for the love of the children.

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              Think of it as Affirmative Action for felons. We have racial/ethnic/quota's for every other profession, why not soldering. One could spin this as you hating people who are rules-following-challenged. The rules-following-challenged have families too. You are trying to take food out of the mouths of children of the rules-following-challenged. You beast! Change your position, for the love of the children.

              MrPlankton

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              73Zeppelin
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              MrPlankton wrote:

              We have racial/ethnic/quota's for every other profession, why not soldering. One could spin this as you hating people who are rules-following-challenged. The rules-following-challenged have families too. You are trying to take food out of the mouths of children of the rules-following-challenged. You beast! Change your position, for the love of the children.

              That was quite the rant, but, uh... What?


              And when the sunlight hits the olive oil, don't hesitate.

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                Absolutely - in that case the political objective was to defeat Germany - At that time already the term 'terrorist' was used: -the Germans named the Allied aviators 'Alliierten Terrorfliegern'.

                When they kick at your front door How you gonna come? With your hands on your head Or on the trigger of your gun?

                Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                So, sometimes terrorism is a good thing?

                Please excuse my refusal to participate in the suicide of western civilization

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                  So, sometimes terrorism is a good thing?

                  Please excuse my refusal to participate in the suicide of western civilization

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                  So the notion of 'terrorism[^]' is mainly a matter of point of view.

                  When they kick at your front door How you gonna come? With your hands on your head Or on the trigger of your gun?

                  Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                  • 7 73Zeppelin

                    MrPlankton wrote:

                    We have racial/ethnic/quota's for every other profession, why not soldering. One could spin this as you hating people who are rules-following-challenged. The rules-following-challenged have families too. You are trying to take food out of the mouths of children of the rules-following-challenged. You beast! Change your position, for the love of the children.

                    That was quite the rant, but, uh... What?


                    And when the sunlight hits the olive oil, don't hesitate.

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                    Political correctness satire.

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                      Think about it - how better to protect the US?

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                      ouch!

                      We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
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                        Oakman wrote:

                        thanks to a government ... for the multinationals,

                        If that is true than the people killing our troops are the good guys. Sounds like treason to me. Treason isn't always a bad thing you know. Sometimes its the right thing. I mean, I'm a traitor to the Marxist democrats and I'm proud of it. You should be proud of your treason also.

                        Please excuse my refusal to participate in the suicide of western civilization

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                        loyality != obedience

                        We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
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                        • 7 73Zeppelin

                          The propaganda comes from both sides: "the Iraqi's love the Americans", "the Iraqi's hate the Americans". The truth obviously lies somewhere in between these two extremes. What is disturbing though is that for the military to begin using waivers for felons this is a sign that there is trouble in the ranks. Quite possibly, the current troops are getting fatigued and need to be relieved and/or the U.S. military is finding it increasingly difficult to find willing volunteers to go over to Iraq. The lack of (troop) supply is probably highly correlated with knowledge of what is going on in Iraq and stories of veterans that return in less than one piece; mentally or physically. I think the real issue is that the American government lacks a clear plan. Almost daily we hear the same routine: "we need to stay" "no, we need to leave" It's a tough choice - kind of akin to: "you started it, are you going to finish it?". I think if the U.S. stays they'll be criticised and if the U.S leaves they'll be criticised. It's really a no-win situation and stories like the above do nothing to improve matters. This, of course, all comes back to Bush's foreign and economic policies - both rather dismal.


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                          73Zeppelin wrote:

                          "we need to stay" "no, we need to leave"

                          Precisely. Goes right along with so many of the non-Americans who: 1. Predicted that the US population wouldn't have the stomach to stay long enough to "finish the job" 2. Are constantly telling us to leave now. Ya just can't have it both ways.

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                            So the notion of 'terrorism[^]' is mainly a matter of point of view.

                            When they kick at your front door How you gonna come? With your hands on your head Or on the trigger of your gun?

                            Fold with us! ¤ flickr

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                            K. wrote:

                            So the notion of 'terrorism[^]' is mainly a matter of point of view.

                            Stanley believes that no group is terrorist unless it attacks a country of which he approves.

                            Jon Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface

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