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    peterchen wrote:

    You don't have to pay if it was bad and didn't help?

    So if I find myself such on the toilet at 4am after a night out eating thai I can get a refund. Awesome!

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    Oakman
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    Josh Gray wrote:

    So if I find myself such on the toilet at 4am after a night out eating thai I can get a refund. Awesome!

    Truly funny! 5

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      Mother fucker I have a real job now. I may even have a second job soon.

      The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.

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      CataclysmicQuantum wrote:

      I may even have a second job soon

      You can't steal enough from the first employer?

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        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FairTax[^] What do you think of it? I think it is a good idea. Taxes are collected from businesses who sell goods and services, so consumers have to pay those taxes. Individuals would also receive bigger paychecks. I think income taxes from local, state, and federal government should be abolished and replaced with this system.

        The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.

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        Use/sales taxes are always taxes on the poor unless ameliorated. The poor, like you, spend a larger part of their income each week than the middle class or the well off. Huckabee's version of a fair tax exempted the first X amount spent each T (I can't remember the amounts or time frame, but I do remember him harping on the idea of the exemption.)

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          Use/sales taxes are always taxes on the poor unless ameliorated. The poor, like you, spend a larger part of their income each week than the middle class or the well off. Huckabee's version of a fair tax exempted the first X amount spent each T (I can't remember the amounts or time frame, but I do remember him harping on the idea of the exemption.)

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          CataclysmicQuantum
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          Oakman wrote:

          Use/sales taxes are always taxes on the poor unless ameliorated. The poor, like you, spend a larger part of their income each week than the middle class or the well off.

          All money is spent sometime. :rolleyes:

          The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.

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            CataclysmicQuantum wrote:

            I may even have a second job soon

            You can't steal enough from the first employer?

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            CataclysmicQuantum
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            Oakman wrote:

            You can't steal enough from the first employer?

            Its not stealing. Cooks get to eat, waitresses can't cook so they have to write out a ticket and get us to cook it. So they pay for what they eat. I can't cook up a big plate of chicken or steaks and I can't eat desert for free, but I can snack on bacon and fries and burgers.

            The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.

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              Have you read his signature? Sounds like a shallow drug addict trying to be deep. And failing. Oh, definitely failing.

              Don't, like, criticise the way I talk. It's, like, so unfair.

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              You don't know how DXM feels and how it makes you think. You would understand if you did it. DXM makes you think like a robot almost, making you say things like "The optical inputs on this biological specimen are interesting", while moving in a very precise but drunken way.

              The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.

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                Oakman wrote:

                You can't steal enough from the first employer?

                Its not stealing. Cooks get to eat, waitresses can't cook so they have to write out a ticket and get us to cook it. So they pay for what they eat. I can't cook up a big plate of chicken or steaks and I can't eat desert for free, but I can snack on bacon and fries and burgers.

                The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.

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                Oakman
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                CataclysmicQuantum wrote:

                Its not stealing.

                I'm supposed to be paying half price for it, but they don't pay me a whole lot so they can at least feed me. I sure as hell ain't paying for it.^

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                  CataclysmicQuantum wrote:

                  Its not stealing.

                  I'm supposed to be paying half price for it, but they don't pay me a whole lot so they can at least feed me. I sure as hell ain't paying for it.^

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                  CataclysmicQuantum
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                  They aren't going to fire me and call the cops. Do you know how much a burger with bacon and all the good stuff costs? Like 25 cents.

                  The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.

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                    Oakman wrote:

                    Use/sales taxes are always taxes on the poor unless ameliorated. The poor, like you, spend a larger part of their income each week than the middle class or the well off.

                    All money is spent sometime. :rolleyes:

                    The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.

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                    Oakman
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                    CataclysmicQuantum wrote:

                    All money is spent sometime

                    No clearer indication of your inability to understand the national or global financial system could be asked for.

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                    • O Oakman

                      CataclysmicQuantum wrote:

                      All money is spent sometime

                      No clearer indication of your inability to understand the national or global financial system could be asked for.

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                      CataclysmicQuantum
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                      Oh so money just sits dormant? Fuck no it doesn't, money is always flowing, even when your money is saved in banks its being lent out.

                      The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.

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                        They aren't going to fire me and call the cops. Do you know how much a burger with bacon and all the good stuff costs? Like 25 cents.

                        The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.

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                        CataclysmicQuantum wrote:

                        They aren't going to fire me and call the cops. Do you know how much a burger with bacon and all the good stuff costs? Like 25 cents.

                        I worked as a night manager at an icream and burger shop just around the corner from M.I.T. The raw materials of restaraunt food are not the primary contributor to the price of what is sold. And yeah, they'll fire your ass sooner or later and then you'll start posting in here about what terrible people they were. You are probably right they won't call the cops - but if by chance you are there long enough to qualify for unemployment compensation, they will definitely tell the agency that you were fired and why. i.e. No benefits

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                          Oh so money just sits dormant? Fuck no it doesn't, money is always flowing, even when your money is saved in banks its being lent out.

                          The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.

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                          Oakman
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                          CataclysmicQuantum wrote:

                          money is always flowing

                          flowing- sure, spent no. Glad you googled that. Now you have a clue.

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                            CataclysmicQuantum wrote:

                            They aren't going to fire me and call the cops. Do you know how much a burger with bacon and all the good stuff costs? Like 25 cents.

                            I worked as a night manager at an icream and burger shop just around the corner from M.I.T. The raw materials of restaraunt food are not the primary contributor to the price of what is sold. And yeah, they'll fire your ass sooner or later and then you'll start posting in here about what terrible people they were. You are probably right they won't call the cops - but if by chance you are there long enough to qualify for unemployment compensation, they will definitely tell the agency that you were fired and why. i.e. No benefits

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                            CataclysmicQuantum
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                            Get real. I have been a cook at three places now and they don't give a shit as long as you don't start cooking steaks and shit. There is a lot of waste that goes on, and me eating a meal is not going to make them mad. I don't work for the the fascist left that you love so much.

                            The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.

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                              CataclysmicQuantum wrote:

                              money is always flowing

                              flowing- sure, spent no. Glad you googled that. Now you have a clue.

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                              CataclysmicQuantum
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                              Google this MLSNS-504-GAH.

                              The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.

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                              • L Lost User

                                Michael Martin wrote:

                                ...it's a Goods and Services Tax.

                                Sales Tax, Goods and Services Tax...Whats the difference?

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                                Josh Gray wrote:

                                Sales Tax, Goods and Services Tax...Whats the difference?

                                Nothing, I'm being a ppedantic prick. Plus from memory Sales Tax was removed to be replaced by a Goods and Services Tax, so it must be different cause there's no way the Government would just change the name to try and swindle us into believing they made a difference. Next ou'll tell me it was a case of them putting lipstick on a pig.

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                                  Income taxes, SS, and medicaid, they are taken right out of my paycheck.

                                  The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.

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                                  Nary a penny is deducted for medicaid.

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                                    Use/sales taxes are always taxes on the poor unless ameliorated. The poor, like you, spend a larger part of their income each week than the middle class or the well off. Huckabee's version of a fair tax exempted the first X amount spent each T (I can't remember the amounts or time frame, but I do remember him harping on the idea of the exemption.)

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                                    Mike Gaskey
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                                    Oakman wrote:

                                    Huckabee's version of a fair tax

                                    By the way, that is Fair Tax and not fair tax[^] - this is something popularized by a Georgia congressman John Linder and Boortz. I don't believe it exempts any dollar amount but does deal with the lower end of the economic scale via a periodic (monthly?) check to that lower end of the scale. Huckabee gave it additional prominance after he incorporated it into his platform / talking points. a bit more on the subject here[^]

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                                      They aren't going to fire me and call the cops. Do you know how much a burger with bacon and all the good stuff costs? Like 25 cents.

                                      The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.

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                                      CataclysmicQuantum wrote:

                                      Do you know how much a burger with bacon and all the good stuff costs? Like 25 cents.

                                      You really need to look at some of the price tags on that stuff you shoplift. :doh:

                                      Doing my part to piss off the religious right.

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                                        peterchen wrote:

                                        You don't have to pay if it was bad and didn't help?

                                        So if I find myself such on the toilet at 4am after a night out eating thai I can get a refund. Awesome!

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                                        Yes, but there is of course a refund tax :rolleyes:

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                                          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FairTax[^] What do you think of it? I think it is a good idea. Taxes are collected from businesses who sell goods and services, so consumers have to pay those taxes. Individuals would also receive bigger paychecks. I think income taxes from local, state, and federal government should be abolished and replaced with this system.

                                          The Digital World. It is an amazing place in which we primitive humans interact. Our flesh made this synthetic machine. You see, we are so smart, we know a lot of stuff. We were grown from cells that came from the universe, which the matter and physics I'm typing in it is amazing how the universe is working. Human life is very amazing. How I experience this sh*t its like wow.

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                                          Ri Qen Sin
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                                          It's not fair unless I'm not taxed at all!

                                          So the creationist says: Everything must have a designer. God designed everything. I say: Why is God the only exception? Why not make the "designs" (like man) exceptions and make God a creation of man?

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